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EmperorTud

No profit in it.

gjbkk

You have my sympathy a tragic loss

klongmaster

Condolences to you...must be difficult to lose one of your own and be so far away...

maybe some of the members here might know some details which could help you...

Gently guys please

goostewart

It really is strange, that list of deaths is so striking. Why are there so many 'suicides'? Why do people fall out of, and from, buildings in Thailand so much?

I realise that some of them are certainly suicide, but some must be murders also. Having said that, it would be quite difficult to be pushed from a balcony/roof top by a Thai woman or man do you think? My Mrs would have difficulty pushing me off the balcony, even if I was unaware of her behind me.

The BiB really do need to start doing some investigations into this. Likely? I don't think so. The easiest thing is to call the accidental/suicide (or even accidental suicides!). Our collective embassies should be doing something about it, maybe pressuring the Thai government to act, but it seems the embassies only intervene on a case by case basis and don't see the bigger picture.

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britmaveric

Well when the balcony height is near waist level, not that hard to fall over one, when drunk.

Ivor Biggun

Jgwise. Genuine or troll ? I say troll

dirtydog

Genuine.

goostewart

Yeah, the balcony height is lower than many parts of the world, but does it really explain all these deaths? When drunk, yes, a few might accidentally go over. But there really is too many, centred on Pattaya and Bangkok, which are not explained by a low balcony rail.

I have to say it is odd. Too many suicides/accidents by a minority in any society should set alarm bells ring in any government. The embassies really should be looking into this and bringing pressure on the appropriate authorities.

obsidian

it would take great strength as a parent to accept the death of ones child as being purposeful.

hillbilly

Give TD a day or two and we will try to find out some more details.

RIP

Milkman

These jumpers will just go to a top floor or roof, to take themselves out.

Reaper

So what? How many people have made the paper over the last 4 years alone having died in strange circumstances. Do you really want to have it as a murder when you cannot catch the murderer? What would that do to the image of the country?

Guy commits suicide, plastic bag over the head with his hands tied behind his back.

How many people have not hired private investigators to investigate the death of a family member in Thailand. What was it 10% of all British deaths abroad occur in Thailand? The Brit who drowned in Pattaya - his mother hired a private investigator and what became of that - nothing. Have we forgot the two Korean women who died on Koh Larn island not too long ago.That was also suicide 48 hours later.

obsidian

though this post was undoubtedly made in kindness i would suggest that ms jgwise take no solace from it. obtain genuine, connected and trustworthy advocacy/ legal counsel if you wish to prompt the thai government improve on its current investigation. if you have the resources i suggest you come here. teakdoor is simply a site designed to entertain western expats in thailand. you will need a whole lot more than this if your fears of a botched investigation are true. good luck. you will need it.

jandajoy

So you're drunk. Pissed as a fart. Swigging from a bottle of whiskey. You end up on a roof top. The last thing I think you'd do is carefully put down the bottle and then jump. IMO you'd take it with you.

Secondly to the grieving mother, my sincerest condolences. You mention that the newspaper reports were not accurate. Can you expand on that? Whilst I agree with Obsidian that this may not be the right arena to seek solace it does have a remarkable ability to seek out facts ( maybe due to its inate cynicism). At the very least to pose objective and subjective views on events.

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good2bhappy

Funny that there is nothing on Ajarn or Thai visa from the poor mother?
They might also be able to help.

caller

TV would probably ban her for tarnishing their reputation or affecting their sponsors business. Ajarn would seem a logical choice, but maybe she doesn't know of it?

obsidian

i agree with this. but i feel (assuming the poster is genuine) we must be cautious not to provide false hope. a mother has lost a child. there is a small window of opportunity to investigate it throughly. influenceing the formal thai police system is not an easy matter. i suggest the mother get an advocate (paid for and professional) to help her through this horrible systems morass. i am not doubting anyones motives -- the mom, hillbilly or other posters. i simply think this situation is too important and well beyond amatuer teakdoor sluething. merely my opinion.

jandajoy

100% in agreement with that.

britmaveric

Well why we are at it - how many accidental electrocutions end lives in Thailand? Happens on a routine basis because crap installation, and non-existent or ignored building codes. I buy accidental more so because infrastructure for the most part is rubbish.

November Rain

I agree. Condolences for your loss, Joni. I hope your daughter rests in peace & you find some answers which help you.