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obsidian

no way. the schools have teachers working before the paerwork is finished and this is illegal. the system cannot work legally at the present time.

Begbie

I think I was joking Lilly. Then again...

AntRobertson

I suspect you're right. Actually I think that's why they have pointedly refused to disclose how they are going to select the people to check, they simply don't know how they are going to work it themselves.

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ChiangMai noon

no way does the CRB volunteer extremely private information.
it would be entirely illegal.

NickA

No, but if they use fake documents (including passport) it becomes a lot harder to find them.

I don't understand why this latest one was allowed to travel to Thailand as he already had a record in the UK... surely it's up to the British goverment to stop these types of people travelling to certain countries.

ChiangMai noon

the one with the pics on his puter?

what sort of record did he have?

obsidian

an apparent conviction for a sex offense.

dirtydog

It always used to be that aslong as you have applied for a work permit you can work, even if you know the application may fail, I assume this must have changed?

obsidian

felons get to travel assuming they have fullfilled their sentence, do they not?

obsidian

i think not. indeed didnt a few guys go to jail awhile back for working while waiting for thier proper paperwork to clear?

dirtydog

It may have changed a few years ago for all I know, but it always was a case of getting the application in and you could work, or maybe they were just more lenient then.

obsidian

i think the difference is between what is technically legal and the normal day-to-day dodgy practices.

watterinja

I'd say that a fair amount of circumspect should be exercised in this.

Reporting to the Thai police would be a pretty dangerous thing - what if you were wrong? Perhaps Interpol, or the person's own home Embassy would be a better way to drop an anonymous hint.

Grasses often end up is a spot of bother somewhere down the line - especially if you are wrong!!! Could cost you more than a pretty penny in legal costs & damages.

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bar dog

Personally I think that if the process helps find or deter one pedo from working in Thailand then it will be worth the effort. I am pretty sure this is just the usual blather from the cops but who knows it just may work

Lily

Yes, but some of the 'paperwork' included fake degrees.

Lily

I am not speaking about people whom you just 'suspect' may be doing it, but in the West, teachers, doctors and nurses are obliged by law to report any evidence of child abuse.

Why can't teachers here be under the same obligation?

obsidian

^^ if this is true then i am off point here.

^ it only occurred to the thai powers that be 6 months ago to make domestic violence illegal. this is a primitive place. in a western country i would agree completely but here it is such a cultural circus. caution is an xcellant rule of thumb even when you are completely correct.

watterinja

I hear you & understand what you're driving at.

'Under law'... what is the Thai law regarding reporting of such matters? How would it be handled? Would a person's dignity & human rights be upheld - even if a suspect? Under Thai law, are you guilty until proven innocent, or innocent until proved guilty? It makes a difference.

Look at John Mark Karr, for instance. The fellow was technically innocent under western law, but as guilty as all hell, under Thai interpretation.

Lily

Well, to be fair to the Thais, it did seem he was guilty of something terrible.

In Thailand a confession, not matter how it is obtained, says you are guilty.

It was a bit of a different case, though, wasnt it?

Not many people confess to something like that. The Thais would never have heard of that happening.

watterinja

^ True, fair-enough...