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Old 01-11-2007, 01:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I would think more are illegal than legal,
I think most of the teachers in Bangkok, anyway are working in schools and would be legal.

The ones working for language schools are probably more illegal than legal.

Bear in mind that the last two caught, were legal.
no way. the schools have teachers working before the paerwork is finished and this is illegal. the system cannot work legally at the present time.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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^It should not only be possibe, it should be obligitory, to report people whom you have good reason to think are paedophiles.
I think I was joking Lilly. Then again...
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I wonder how they are going to select the 'foreigners in question'?
and how they are possibly going to check them out.
I honestly don't think it is in any way possible, beyond some sort of interpol list.
I suspect you're right. Actually I think that's why they have pointedly refused to disclose how they are going to select the people to check, they simply don't know how they are going to work it themselves.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:20 PM   #24 (permalink)
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hey simply don't know how they are going to work it themselves.
no way does the CRB volunteer extremely private information.
it would be entirely illegal.
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I dont think the status of their work permit, had anything to do with why the last few have been caught. They weren't caught for doing anything at schools.
No, but if they use fake documents (including passport) it becomes a lot harder to find them.

I don't understand why this latest one was allowed to travel to Thailand as he already had a record in the UK... surely it's up to the British goverment to stop these types of people travelling to certain countries.
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I don't understand why this latest one was allowed to travel to Thailand as he already had a record in the UK
the one with the pics on his puter?

what sort of record did he have?
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an apparent conviction for a sex offense.
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no way. the schools have teachers working before the paerwork is finished and this is illegal
It always used to be that aslong as you have applied for a work permit you can work, even if you know the application may fail, I assume this must have changed?
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felons get to travel assuming they have fullfilled their sentence, do they not?
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no way. the schools have teachers working before the paerwork is finished and this is illegal
It always used to be that aslong as you have applied for a work permit you can work, even if you know the application may fail, I assume this must have changed?
i think not. indeed didnt a few guys go to jail awhile back for working while waiting for thier proper paperwork to clear?
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It may have changed a few years ago for all I know, but it always was a case of getting the application in and you could work, or maybe they were just more lenient then.
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i think the difference is between what is technically legal and the normal day-to-day dodgy practices.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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^It should not only be possibe, it should be obligitory, to report people whom you have good reason to think are paedophiles.
I'd say that a fair amount of circumspect should be exercised in this.

Reporting to the Thai police would be a pretty dangerous thing - what if you were wrong? Perhaps Interpol, or the person's own home Embassy would be a better way to drop an anonymous hint.

Grasses often end up is a spot of bother somewhere down the line - especially if you are wrong!!! Could cost you more than a pretty penny in legal costs & damages.
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Personally I think that if the process helps find or deter one pedo from working in Thailand then it will be worth the effort. I am pretty sure this is just the usual blather from the cops but who knows it just may work
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indeed didnt a few guys go to jail awhile back for working while waiting for thier proper paperwork to clear?
Yes, but some of the 'paperwork' included fake degrees.
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Grasses often end up is a spot of bother somewhere down the line - especially if you are wrong!!! Could cost you more than a pretty penny in legal costs & damages.
I am not speaking about people whom you just 'suspect' may be doing it, but in the West, teachers, doctors and nurses are obliged by law to report any evidence of child abuse.

Why can't teachers here be under the same obligation?
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^^ if this is true then i am off point here.

^ it only occurred to the thai powers that be 6 months ago to make domestic violence illegal. this is a primitive place. in a western country i would agree completely but here it is such a cultural circus. caution is an xcellant rule of thumb even when you are completely correct.
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Grasses often end up is a spot of bother somewhere down the line - especially if you are wrong!!! Could cost you more than a pretty penny in legal costs & damages.
I am not speaking about people whom you just 'suspect' may be doing it, but in the West, teachers, doctors and nurses are obliged by law to report any evidence of child abuse.

Why can't teachers here be under the same obligation?
I hear you & understand what you're driving at.

'Under law'... what is the Thai law regarding reporting of such matters? How would it be handled? Would a person's dignity & human rights be upheld - even if a suspect? Under Thai law, are you guilty until proven innocent, or innocent until proved guilty? It makes a difference.

Look at John Mark Karr, for instance. The fellow was technically innocent under western law, but as guilty as all hell, under Thai interpretation.
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The fellow was technically innocent under western law, but as guilty as all hell, under Thai interpretation.
Well, to be fair to the Thais, it did seem he was guilty of something terrible.

In Thailand a confession, not matter how it is obtained, says you are guilty.

It was a bit of a different case, though, wasnt it?

Not many people confess to something like that. The Thais would never have heard of that happening.
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