Thread: Hong Kong protests against Chinese extradition bill draw 1 million demonstrators

Originally Posted by Cujo

Yes..

To all three questions?

Originally Posted by OhOh

To all three questions?

To the last one. The one that addressed my comment.

During the 2017 chief executive election campaign Lam said: “If the mainstream opinion of Hong Kong people renders me unsuitable to serve as chief executive, I will resign.”

Best you fuck off now then, you chinky stooge.

The popularity of Hong Kong’s Chief Executive has plunged to a historic low, according to a regular University of Hong Kong (HKU) survey released on Tuesday.
The city’s leader Carrie Lam scored 32.8 marks, indicating a rapid drop of 10.5 points from two weeks prior. Her approval rating now sits at 23 per cent, with a disapproval rating of 67 per cent – it gives Lam a net approval rating of negative 44 per cent, representing a 20 per cent decline. Both her popularity rating and net popularity mark a new low compared with all former Chief Executives since the question was first asked about the Hong Kong governor in 1992.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/06/2...-low-hku-poll/

I hate her.
Beijing has said they will not discuss the issue at the G20 meeting.

More chinky propaganda from the snivelling sycophant.

Let's hope the chinkies can share the protests around underground communications and rise up against the odious dictator Winnie the Pooh.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

More chinky propaganda from the snivelling sycophant.

Reuters, I don't think so. But if you say so 'arry.

Mass hypnosis perpetuated on all - participants and observers, alike.

Manipulations and distractions.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Reuters, I don't think so. But if you say so 'arry.

Where did I say I question the veracity of Reuters reporting?

"China on Tuesday condemned violent protests in Hong Kong as an “undisguised challenge” to the formula under which the city is ruled, hours after police fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of protesters who stormed and trashed the legislature.

A representative of China’s Hong Kong affairs office denounced the demonstrators, who are furious about proposed legislation allowing extraditions to China, and said Beijing supports holding criminals responsible, state media said.

Reuters are simply accurately reporting that the chinkies are upset that residents of Hong Kong have no desire to live under Chinastan rule and face "re-education" or worse if they dare question the dictator Winnie the Pooh.

In fact the majority of Hong Kong residents do not think of themselves as Chinese, but wish an independent Hong Kong, much like the Taiwanese do not wish to be told what to do by some repressive, undemocratic Chinky regime.

What they need in mainland China is something along the lines of the French revolution, in which they haul out the fat, privileged communist cadres and execute them to the cheers of the revolutionaries.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

What they need in mainland China is something along the lines of the French revolution, in which they haul out the fat, privileged communist cadres and execute them to the cheers of the revolutionaries.

For that to happen would require a military coup. But I'm quite sure the military are being amply rewarded for their loyalty, as in Venezuela.

Lizzie's offspring managed to grab a few top military appointments I hear.

I suppose some are still promoted on body count basis though. Especially triple scoring "friendly fire" or the jackpot, "sinking one's own ship by hitting a tramp steamer tied up to a wharf".

WTF is he waffling on about now. Anyone?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

WTF is he waffling on about now. Anyone?

Stay tuned. Details on the way. All will be clear. Presented in a long yellow and red highlighted post.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Oh maybe not.

China to Britain: Keep your ‘colonial’ hands off Hong Kong

BEIJING/LONDON (Reuters) – China told Britain to keep its hands off Hong Kong on Wednesday while London called for Beijing to honor the agreements made when the city was handed over in 1997, escalating a diplomatic spat over the former British colony.


Beijing denounced British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt as “shameless” and said it had made a diplomatic complaint to London after he warned of consequences if China neglected its commitments to guarantee basic freedoms.


“In the minds of some people, they regard Hong Kong as still under British rule. They forget … that Hong Kong has now returned to the embrace of the Motherland,” China’s ambassador to London, Liu Xiaoming, said.


“I tell them: hands off Hong Kong and show respect. This colonial mindset is still haunting the minds of some officials or politicians,” Liu told reporters.


The growing war of words between China and Britain follows mass protests in Hong Kong against a now suspended bill that would allow extradition to mainland China.


Hundreds of protesters in the former British colony besieged and broke into the legislature on Monday after a demonstration marking the anniversary of return to Chinese rule.


China called the violence an “undisguised challenge” to the “one country, two systems” model under which Hong Kong has been ruled for 22 years.


On Tuesday, Hunt warned of consequences if China did not abide by the Sino-British Joint Declaration in 1984 on the terms of the return of Hong Kong, which allows freedoms not enjoyed in mainland China, including the right to protest.


“We can make it clear we stand behind the people of Hong Kong in defense of the freedoms that we negotiated for them when we agreed to the handover in 1997 and we can remind everyone that we expect all countries to honor their international obligations,” Hunt told Reuters.


Hunt is one of two contenders vying to replace Theresa May as British prime minister and his rival Boris Johnson told Reuters on Wednesday that he also backed the people of Hong Kong “every inch of the way”.


The comments clearly irked Beijing. China’s London envoy scolded Britain and said meddling in Hong Kong would cause a “problem in the relationship” between them.


“The UK government chose to stand on the wrong side: it has made inappropriate remarks not only to interfere in internal affairs of Hong Kong but also to back up the violent law-breakers,” Liu said.


‘SHAMELESS’

Earlier, Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang chided Hunt, saying that only after Hong Kong’s return to China did its people get an “unprecedented” guarantee about democracy and freedom.


“To say that the freedoms of Hong Kong residents is something Britain strived for is simply shameless,” he told a news briefing. “I would like to ask Mr. Hunt, during the British colonial era in Hong Kong, was there any democracy to speak of? Hong Kongers didn’t even have the right to protest.”


China had lodged “stern representations” with Britain both in Beijing and London about Hunt’s remarks, he added.
Britain said it had summoned Liu to the foreign office following his “unacceptable” comments, a government source said.


“Message to Chinese govt: good relations between countries are based on mutual respect and honoring the legally binding agreements between them,” Hunt said on Twitter after Liu’s media briefing.


“That is the best way to preserve the great relationship between the UK and China.”


RESETTING TIES

The turbulence in Hong Kong was triggered by an extradition bill opponents say will undermine Hong Kong’s much-cherished rule of law and give Beijing powers to prosecute activists in mainland courts, which are controlled by the Communist Party.


Hong Kong’s Beijing-backed leader Carrie Lam had strongly promoted the bill, but suspended it on June 15 in the face of public protests against it. Critics have called on her to officially kill the bill, but she has resisted.


Britain and China had been seeking to reset ties after a row over the disputed South China Sea last year, with Chinese Vice Premier Hu Chunhua visiting London last month to oversee the start of a link between its stock exchange and that of Shanghai.


Confrontation and lawlessness in Hong Kong could damage its reputation as an international business hub and seriously hurt its economy, China’s top newspaper, the People’s Daily, said in an editorial.


“It will not only serve no purpose, but will also severely hinder economic and social development,” the ruling Communist Party’s official paper said, denouncing what it called artificially created division and opposition.


China has blamed Western countries, particularly the United States and Britain, for offering succor to the protests.


In an editorial, the official China Daily, an English-language newspaper Beijing often uses to send its message to the world, condemned “outside agitations”.


“What has also been notable is the hypocrisy of some Western governments – the United States and United Kingdom most prominently – which have called for a stop to the violence, as if they have had nothing to do with it,” the paper said.


“But, looking back at the whole protest saga, they have been deeply involved in fuelling it since its inception.”

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“What has also been notable is the hypocrisy of some Western governments – the United States and United Kingdom most prominently – which have called for a stop to the violence, as if they have had nothing to do with it,” the paper said.

“But, looking back at the whole protest saga, they have been deeply involved in fuelling it since its inception.”

Oh FFS Misskit, you beat HoHo too it, he wanted to blame the USA. He will be pissed off.

Fuelling it by....er....reporting on it ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Fuelling it by....er....reporting on it ?

"Reporting" or exaggerating 1,000,000s, 100,000s, 1,000s and now 100s

Who is "training" the illegal acting foreign agents?

Originally Posted by OhOh

"Reporting" or exaggerating 1,000,000s, 100,000s, 1,000s and now 100s

Who is "training" the illegal acting foreign agents?

They are Hong Kong citizens who don't want to be carted off to a Chinastan re-education camp for daring to want a say in what their government does.

You stupid chinky sycophant, believing all that Winnie the Pooh nonsense.

Thank you for your post

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Apparently the Chinese government is so outraged with these "criminals" they are broadcasting the news all over china...... not.

You are aware that China and HK are have separate governments, laws, systems and as such one could suggest that "what happens in HK, stays in HK"

They both have rules and systems, the HK Agreement, signed by the departing UK government system and the Chinese government reclaiming authority, is available online to read

if you can point to clauses where China is breaking the agreement please do

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Did it ever occur to you that the population may be unhappy with a communist dictatorship that is gradually eroding what little freedom they have?

Based on the last election a government was formed, presumably the result was accepted by the HK citizens

Or do you have evidence to suggest otherwise?

Bills were prepared to submit to the elected HK representatives in their HK parliament

Some of the HK citizens marched to show their displeasure

A small number attacked the police and parliament buildings and rightly so we dissuaded by the police

Or are you of the opinion that the illegal criminal violence shown by the small number of criminals should be adopted/accepted whenever a citizen does not agree with the political system's decisions? If so democracy is not for you, possibly a dictatorship is more your preference?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

6,000 extra judicial killings as reported by the U.N. or was that "instigated by foreign agents, American propaganda or the U.N. false reporting?

No idea, any sources your care to post here I will certainly read and possibly comment on, in the Venezuela thread

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Nothing wrong with putting an alternative view out there but you ignore too many facts in the process

If the "facts" are substantiated and utilised by some for their own agenda then post them and we can discuss them, politely

Unfortunately the "facts" as "reported" by some known propaganda publishers, Reuters and others were subject to change by others

Millions became 150,000 demonstrators, a much smaller group became criminals

If the "facts" had suggested a correct number of demonstrators instead of accepting an inaccurate figure, if the numbers of those demonstrators who went on to act criminally were reported accurately a more clear opinion could have been formed

How many illegal, violent criminals attacked the police/parliament building, nobody counted them

How many demonstrators agreed with the violent criminals, nobody counted them

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

you are obviously a reasonably intelligent person with the ability to put out some interesting and intelligent well researched posts

Shush, I have a bad-boy reputation to uphold, my cohort will disown me

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

you have become so myopic it beggars belief

Post some "facts" that I can understand, "facts" that are from a person of stature who has a track record of delivering real factual achievements not tweets nullifying another one hour latter

Do that and I will read, check and let you know my, personal opinion

As far as I am aware we have one TD poster living in HK

I haven't seen too much negativity from him, only from some here who are known for their anti-China views and are sometimes amusing, in my opinion

Unfortunately it is rare they deliver on their allegations, but this is an internet chat room where all are tolerated or sent to the big house by our "Moderators"