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    Chiang Maiís Foul Air No Priority to Bangkok, North Complains

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    CHIANG MAI ó Chiang Mai residents are unleashing anger over inaction to solving the persistent, toxic smog choking the region.


    University students are protesting and social media is piling wrath onto officials for their lack of response in a week that saw Chiang Mai city ranked the worldís most-polluted city for a second consecutive day Wednesday. Particulate density rose to more than 200 micrograms per cubic meter, according to monitoring organization AirVisual.


    Read: Chiang Mai Tops World Pollution Charts


    Among the frustrations expressed is the sense that what suddenly became a priority in the capital is ignored in the north, even though it has been plagued by foul air for years.

    MORE Chiang Mai?s Foul Air No Priority to Bangkok, North Complains

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    Do they actually do anything about it anywhere in the country other than issue pointless, unenforced edicts and have lots of meetings to show in the press?

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    I think the whole northern hemisphere is fcuked

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    Twice this week Chiang Mai has been number one in the world for AQI.

    I think the silly fuckers consider this some kind of glorious achievement.

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    I kind of agree with their point, when BKK was concerned, medias and authorities were prompt to react, advise, and devise actions plan (yep even if some actions were foolish)...while CM have for years and for much longer periods at least the same or higher pollution figures, and while it's been addressed by both actors, the feeling of urgency, danger etc looks lower for CM than BKK.

    As usual, farmers are the main culprits, burning their fields instead of composting because it's cheaper and easier and of course the forest fires to get the mushrooms later on, then transportation with most goods being carried by black smoke belching outdated trucks...


    I remember a TD member feeling mildly amused when I said I tried to stay indoors and limit physical activities (heavy breathing)...now the authorities are advising to do that, considering that they tend to brush up any issues under the carpet untill they are forced to address them, I think this basic common sense practices should have been implemented way earlier (during previous pollution peaks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Twice this week Chiang Mai has been number one in the world for AQI.
    Three times.

    After a slow start to the day at 4th CNX has manged to claw its way back up the leaderboard to take the #1 position again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do they actually do anything about it anywhere in the country other than issue pointless, unenforced edicts and have lots of meetings to show in the press?
    Wouldn't expect much.
    Such stringent activities and policies are anti-business in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Wouldn't expect much.
    Such stringent activities and policies are anti-business in nature.
    Nothing to do with business, it's simply the Thai proclivity to do as little fucking work as possible.

    That's why they can start fires opposite police stations and not worry a fuck about the possibility of getting caught.

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    Quite lovely here in Krabi...aside from the occasional bomb scare.

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    Nine northern provinces face health threat from PM.25

    The haze problem, caused by forest fires, in nine northern provinces of Thailand is now posing a serious threat to health, with the level of PM2.5 particles recorded at 66-200 microns, the Pollution Control Department reported today.


    At Tambon Wiang Pang Kham, in the Mae Sai district of Chiang Rai, a key commercial border town, PM2.5 particulate matter was measured at 200 microns today against the 50-micron standard level.


    Readings from monitoring devices show the following results:
    • 98 microns in Muang district of Chiang Rai,
    • 71-122 microns in Mae Cham and Muang districts of Chiang Mai
    • 122-137 microns in Mae Moh district of Lampang
    • 97 microns in Muang district of Mae Hong Son
    • 159 microns in Chalerm Phra Kiat district of Nan province
    • 117 microns in Muang district of Phayao province
    • 66 microns in Mae Sot district of Tak province

    PM10 dust particles have also increased beyond the standard level, reaching 87 to 215 microns in the nine northern provinces.


    The following are the PM10 readings today:
    • 99-159 microns in Mae Cham and Muang districts of Chiang Mai
    • 125 and 242 microns and Muang and Mae Sai districts of Chiang Rai
    • 166-199 microns in Muang and Mae Moh districts of Lampang
    • 193 microns in Phrae province
    • 191 microns in Nan province


    Chiang Rai governor Prachon Pratsakul said only 21 hotspots were detected in Chiang Rai province, adding that dust particles are also coming from raging forest fires across the border in Myanmar.



    https://www.thaipbsworld.com/nine-no...at-from-pm-25/

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    Chiang Rai governor Prachon Pratsakul said only 21 hotspots were detected in Chiang Rai province, adding that dust particles are also coming from raging forest fires across the border in Myanmar.


    The problem is people actually believe that shit

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    Filthy hole, how can anyone who cares about their health live in such a cess pit of pollution?

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    It is quite sad. I definitely noticed air quality issues the moment I stepped foot in Asia and I was nowhere near Bangkok or Chiang Mai.

    I've been paying more attention to the situation as it is a quality of life issue. I've often thought about Thailand as a place to visit during retirement but all this pollution puts a damper on where and when to visit. Same with Vietnam, Cambodia and others in the region.

    It's got to put pressure on the real estate markets. That may make them take action though I, pardon the expression, wouldn't hold my breath.

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    I think the only way we can accurately gauge the degree of air particulate density is for Lulu to post up a selfie - i'm thinking after he's gone out on the bike for half and hour he looks like he's been the fireman on the Flying Scotsman.
    Bsnub: After I sleep this off I will post otherwise you fucking sad sack lying fuck. It will no be the first time you go caught in a lie will it? Since you ratted me off to admin for falsely reposting your picure. Dumbass twink.

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    All is saved... our beloved leader flew up to Chiang Mai and promised to save the day.

    Then flew out again.

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    Arrived in Khon Kaen tree days ago after six months in Florida and NY . I could smell the smoke the moment I exited the plane, a thick hase hungs in the air, coming here for over 13 years, never seen it this bad before. I clean our tiled open downstairs, and a few minutes late it is full of small black ashes.
    Permanent retirement to our KK home seems more a remote possibility unless things improve but I wouldn't hold my breath (pun intended), our Florida home is lovely, 10 min from the beach, the air is clean, the vegetables safe to eat, the rule of law still prevails, no barking dogs all night.
    Dont get me wrong, I love Thailand, I love the people, the food, the energy, but as I get older I am losing my energy to deal with the BS. A few months here is becoming just as much as I can handle.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Having spent the last few years exploring other parts of Asia, I have to say Chiang Mai is dropping further and further down the list of potential retirement destinations.

    Why would you go through the hoops of Chiang Mai immigration to spend a quarter of the year trying to avoid being choked to death by toxic pollution?

    And there is simply no will to do a fucking thing about it.

    Once again, they are all pointing the fingers at Laos and Burma when the fucking fires are burning in front of their noses on Doi Suthep.

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    Agree with others, if it were not for wife's ties with family and friends I would have moved.
    I think that this year is worst than the 2 previous ones...when the kid will be older I might consider going on a 1 or 2 months seaside trip for the smog season

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    Air Quality Index Reaches Dangerous Levels in Chiang Rai Province

    CHIANG RAI – Fine dust reached hazardous levels in many northern and northeastern provinces in the 24 hours to 9am Thursday, with PM2.5 readings at 64-199 microgrammes per cubic metre of air – and the worst pollution in Chiang Rai.


    The Pollution Control Department reported on Thursday that the level of particulate matter 2.5 micrometres or less in diameter reached 199 μm/m≥ in tambon Wiang Phang Kham of Mae Sai district in Chiang Rai. The air quality index there reached the dangerous level of 309, the highest in the country.


    In the North, unhealthily high smog levels were also reported in Muang and Mae Chaem districts of Chiang Mai, Muang district of Lamphun, Mae Mo and Muang districts of Lampang, Muang district of Phrae, Muang and Chalerm Prakiat districts of Nan, Muang district of Phayao, Muang district of Mae Hong Son and Mae Sot district of Tak.



    In the Northeast, similar conditions were reported in Muang district of Loei and Muang district of Khon Kaen.


    In the Central Plains, unhealthy levels of PM2.5 were recorded in Chalerm Prakiat district of Saraburi, Muang district of Nakhon Sawan, Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya district of Ayutthaya and Muang district of Kanchanaburi.


    Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwon visited the northern province of Chiang Mai on Thursday to see the situation in the North at first hand.


    He blamed the air pollution on forest fires and said local officials were trying their best to put out the fires and were trying to convince people not to burn-off. The key to the problem was getting the people’s cooperation.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/env...orth-northeast

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    In 13 years this is as bad as I've seen. we're up near Chiang Kong, not far from the river and pretty much on the Lao border. Sickness is rife, not least in my own family. We've currently got a 4 year old, a 3 month old, the mother of these two plus 2 grandmothers and 2 great grandmothers sick. Coughs, fevers at various levels, night sweats and general wheezing. Outside the immediate family there have been 4 funerals in the last 10 days. Now, I don't know for a fact that these deaths are due to the air pollution or not but it is uncommon.

    There has been no burning that I have seen for the last month or so yet you can taste the air.

    Solutions?

    For us it's a matter of waiting it out whilst trying to protect the young and the weak. Masks don't really do much but they do give a sense of at least doing something.

    Most houses are typically wide open to the elements and battening down the hatches is pretty ineffectual.

    Whilst I could and would consider moving neither my wife nor I would leave the family behind so we reckon it's best to stay and help out wherever we can.

    I've never wished for a monsoonal downpour so much in all my life.
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    Haze from Forest Fires and Field Burning Takes Chiang Rai’s Air Quality to Toxic Levels

    CHIANG RAI – Thailand’s Pollution Control Department is warning residents with asthma or other related breathing conditions to refrain from venturing outside as air quality levels have degraded to toxic levels in Chiang Rai, Province.
    Haze from field burning and forest fires with PM2.5 levels at 76-202 micrograms per cubic meter of air and the highest reading again in Chiang Rai’s Mae Sai district.


    Air quality levels of particulate matter 2.5 micrometers or less in diameter (PM2.5) rose from its range of 64-199 μg/m≥ announced at 9am Thursday.




    The peak level in the 24 hours to 9am Friday was 202 μg/m≥ reported in tambon Wiang Phang Kham of Chiang Rai’s Mae Sai district. The air quality index (AQI) there was at 302, the highest in the country.


    The deemed safe threshold for PM2.5 is 50 μg/m≥ and for AQI it is 100.


    Pralong Damrongthai, deputy director-general of the Pollution Control Department, said officials would have to be more serious in asking people to stop burning off fields and forests, and would spray water hourly instead of twice a day in affected areas.


    https://www.chiangraitimes.com/haze-...ic-levels.html

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    A few months ago:




    Yesterday:




    It is a bit hazy.

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    Pralong Damrongthai, deputy director-general of the Pollution Control Department, said officials would have to be more serious in asking people to stop burning off fields and forests, and would spray water hourly instead of twice a day in affected areas.
    The mind positively boggles.

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    they could get all the prop driven aircraft and line them up and blow all the bad air down to the gulf

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    they could get all the prop driven aircraft and line them up and blow all the bad air down to the gulf
    yea but it will just go around the world and hit you on the arse I thought you were tired of having smoke blown up your arse .

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