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    "Help" will be on its way soon enough...
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    but seems to me he's a sheep being led to slaughter.
    How long now before the demonization and then the bombing begins?

    "Fucking Pakis" "Imran Khan has WMDs and he's worse than Hitler."

    I've seen this movie before...

    Exclusive: Pentagon cancels aid to Pakistan over record on militants
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1LH3TA

    Experts on the Afghan conflict, America’s longest war, argue that militant safe havens in Pakistan have allowed Taliban-linked insurgents in Afghanistan a place to plot deadly strikes and regroup after ground offensives.
    Reuters reported in August that the Trump administration has quietly started cutting scores of Pakistani officers from coveted training and educational programs that have been a hallmark of bilateral military relations for more than a decade.

    The Pentagon made similar determinations on CSF in the past but this year’s move could get more attention from Islamabad, and its new prime minister, Imran Khan, at a time when its economy is struggling.

    Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves have plummeted over the past year and it will soon decide on whether to seek a bailout from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) or friendly nations such as China.

    “They are squeezing them when they know that they’re vulnerable and it is probably a signal about what to expect should Pakistan come to the IMF for a loan,” Lalwani said. The United States has the largest share of votes at the IMF.

    Khan, who once suggested he might order the shooting down of U.S. drones if they entered Pakistani airspace, has opposed the United States’ open-ended presence in Afghanistan. In his victory speech, he said he wanted “mutually beneficial” relations with Washington.

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    Two items. One regarding loans, the other security issues.

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2018/10/08/these-are-the-three-countries-that-may-help-pakistan-avoid-seeking-imf-assistance/

    These Are The Three Countries That May Help Pakistan Avoid Seeking IMF Assist




    China, Pakistan to jointly manufacture Chinese aerial drones: report - Global Times

    China, Pakistan to jointly manufacture Chinese aerial drones: report
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    The Christian woman,Asia Bibi,is waiting the outcome of her final appeal in the Supreme court today.
    She was convicted of blasphemy in 2010 and if her appeal fails she will most likely be sentenced to death.
    Imran Khan fully supported the law when campaigning,so it does not look good for her,what a backward country.

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    I see Pakistan is going to be begging for a few billion in Bali next week.

    I wonder how much of that will end up in Imran's skyrocket?

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    oooh you are naughty!

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    It appears that the Pakistani Prime Minister has received a large chunk of money from Saudi Arabia.

    A loan of 3 billion and oil deferred payment of a similar amount.This along with any more from the Chinese may mean an IMF loan/demands will no longer be required.

    In addition a new study by the world Bank has been requested.

    Steps forward at least.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1832345...-saudi-arabia/

    Saudi Arabia on Tuesday provided a $6 billion lifeline to Pakistan


    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1832414/2-world-bank-undertake-study-cpec/

    Beijing has engaged the World Bank for undertaking a study on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC)

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    AIIB intends to invest in Pakistan Infrastructure Bond



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    The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) has expressed willingness to invest $400 million in the Pakistan Infrastructure Bond after Islamabad highlighted the bank’s tilt towards other regional countries, particularly India.

    The bank has confirmed its plan to pour money into a 10-year bond which the government will float soon to raise funds for mega projects, said sources in the Ministry of Finance. AIIB informed Pakistan about its decision last month.

    Sources added that the projects likely to be funded by the AIIB investment were the Dasu hydroelectric power project and prime minister’s housing scheme.

    The government has already initiated the process of issuing the bonds for placement with the AIIB at attractive rates, said the sources. Established in 2016, the AIIB has so far invested in only two Pakistani projects and has turned down multiple proposals for investment in the energy sector. The bank has so far committed funds for Tarbela dam’s fifth extension and the M4 motorway.

    Pakistani authorities believe that the AIIB’s reluctance to provide finances for Pakistan was because of Indian influence in the bank, said the sources. AIIB Chief Investment Officer Dr DJ Pandian is an Indian civil service officer. So far, the AIIB has financed 32 projects valuing $6.4 billion in its member countries, according to the bank’s website.

    Of these, eight projects, which account for one-fourth of the total portfolio, are being established in India. Bangladesh is another major recipient of the AIIB loans in the South Asian region.

    Finance Minister Asad Umar raised the issue of the AIIB’s lack of exposure in Pakistan during a meeting with the bank’s senior management. The meeting took place last month in Indonesia on the sidelines of the IMF-World Bank annual meetings. The AIIB has now assured Pakistan that it will send a technical team for exploring further investment opportunities. The World Bank and the Asian Development Bank remain Pakistan’s largest multilateral lenders.

    The AIIB’s decision to invest in Pakistan’s bonds will save approval time which is significantly high for the government. One of the biggest complaints by the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank is that Pakistan takes a longer-than-usual time just to get mandatory approvals, which often extends up to 1-1.5 years.

    This delays the relevant project’s approval despite completing all the technical work. Pakistan faces a massive infrastructure investment gap, which cannot solely be filled with public funds. The public-private partnership model has so far not borne fruit due to usual bureaucratic snags. The Ministry of Finance-administered Infrastructure Projects Development Facility (IPDF) has become another white elephant. It remains far from meeting the declared objectives.

    Similarly, the Pakistan Development Fund Company, formed with $1.5 billion worth of Saudi grant in 2014, has also remained largely dormant. The company’s funds were drawn about two years ago to buy equity in two government-owned power plants just to understate the budget deficit in that year.

    The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) government has now announced that it will arrange Rs100 billion outside of the budget books in the current fiscal year to finance mega development schemes.

    Against the revised Public Sector Development Programme of Rs675 billion, the Ministry of Finance has allocated Rs575 billion. The finance minister has announced that the government will fill the gap through innovative sources.

    AIIB President Jin Liqun met Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday in Beijing. The premier underscored that several cooperation opportunities existed in Pakistan’s power generation and transmission, transport and water supply sectors, urging the AIIB president to explore the available avenues in those areas.

    Jin stated that the AIIB was committed to supporting projects in Pakistan. He assured the prime minister that the bank would actively engage with Pakistan in order to review project proposals and looked forward to playing its role in Pakistan’s economic development while upholding shared principles of openness, transparency, independence and accountability. It was also agreed to expedite disbursements for projects in the pipeline.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1840040...tructure-bond/


    A longer "opinion piece" regarding the Pakistani and China relationship is available here:

    Imran Khan Meets Xi Jinping


    https://eurasiafuture.com/2018/11/02...ts-xi-jinping/
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    And Imran Khan is kow towing to the muslim whackjobs. I'd like to think on the sly he's leaving the back door open.

    The husband of Aasia Bibi, acquitted on charges of blasphemy, has requested British Prime Minister Theresa May to grant his wife and their family asylum in their respective countries, reported The Guardian, meanwhile, Reuters reported that her husband has made the same appeal to US President Donald Trump.


    In a video message seen by the Observer, Aasia Bibi’s husband, Ashiq Masih called on the British prime minister to “help us exit from Pakistan” where thousands of people have protested against the supreme court’s ruling and demanded that she be punished.

    The plea came a day after
    Imran Khan’s government announced it would try to prevent Bibi from leaving the country, which her supporters likened to “signing her death warrant”.
    https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...emy-acquittal/

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    Never trust a man who plays cricket, keep an eye on him. Never trust a man who watches cricket, keep both eyes on him.

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    A speech by the Pakistani PM given to schoolchildren in China during his recent visit.


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    Did it involve "Death to the Infidel hordes" or anything like that?

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    Pakistan’s place in the Trump global disorder


    "I published Rising Powers and Global Governance in 2017. The book has 14 chapters, eight of which discussed the world’s major powers — the United States, China, India and Russia — and some of the troubled areas such as Afghanistan, the Middle East and Europe. I would like to quote at some length from the concluding paragraph of the chapter on the United States titled ‘A Receding America?’ I wrote: “In 2015-16, America stands at a threshold; how it crosses it will determine the role it will play in the world. There are a number of issues to be resolved. Once the dust thrown up by the elections of November 2016 settles, as a new president moves into the White House, America will have to decide what kind of space it wishes to occupy in a world that is going through unprecedented change. Withdrawing behind its borders is not an option. It is too large a country with too many strengths to contemplate such a move. Aggressively confronting China, a country that has made enormous and unprecedented progress, should not be regarded as an option either.”


    I got three things wrong in that brief paragraph written in late 2015. The dust thrown up by the presidential contest of November 2016 did not settle down. With the unexpected election of Donald J Trump as president, the dust still hangs in the air two years after the new president took office. With the adoption of ‘America First’ as the guiding principle of foreign policy making, President Trump has pulled his country behind a wall of isolation. And, he has begun to aggressively challenge China on several fronts, attacking what is now the world’s second-largest economy.

    The United States was changing even before Donald J Trump became president on January 20, 2017. There were reasons for change. The process that came to be called ‘globalisation’ had brought about significant changes in the system of production. Demographic developments had made the country more diverse, ethnically as well as in terms of religion.

    Donald Trump’s ‘Make America Great Again’ and ‘America First’ campaign were unmistakable attempts at preserving the hold of the white population — in particular white men — over the country’s political and economic systems. But this was a losing battle; nothing proved that to be the case as much as the results of the November 2018 mid-term elections. They yielded the House of Representatives that was much more diverse in terms of race as well as religion than ever. As one analyst noted, “The new members include several firsts for Congress — the first Muslim women, the first Native American women and the first African American women from several states.” But there is a complete split between the country’s two political parties: the Republicans and the Democrats. The nonpartisan Cook Political Report calculated after most results from the mid-term elections had been declared that the percentage of white men as a share of House Democrats is set to decline from 41% to 38% as a result of the 2018 election. Meanwhile, the percentage of white men as a share of House Republicans is set to rise from 86% to 90%.

    There are several ways in which President Trump has upended the global economic and political order he inherited. He has adopted a strong anti-immigration stance, speaking openly about not wanting to bring into his country people of colour and those who follow the Muslim faith. He has begun to call himself a nationalist as opposed to a globalist, setting into motion a trend that has caught on in several European countries. By moving in that direction he has developed a wide gulf between the United States and more liberal parts of Western Europe.

    He has lost the position the United States had occupied as an arbitrator in the Middle East, hoping to bring peace to this long-troubled region. In the process, he has openly sided with the Jewish state of Israel and against the Palestinians. By moving in this direction, he has encouraged the Middle Eastern monarchies in the Sunni part of the Arab world to ruthlessly suppress any moves to take these nations towards a democratic political order. The United States-Israeli-Sunni Arab alliance is also directed at pushing Iran in the hope of bringing about a change in the regime in that country. By forcing the Shiite clerics to give up political power in that country, this combination of forces will clear the space in which they could operate openly and without any constraint.
    The moves against China now cover a large area. The effort is to throw obstacles in the way of China, preventing it from making further economic advance at a rate that would make it the world’s largest economy. It is set to overtake the United States in a decade or so. One part of the effort to constrain China is to form a new alliance with some of the major powers in Asia. This alliance is built on the idea of the ‘quad’ promoted some time ago by Japan. This would involve in addition to Japan, the United States, Australia and India. The Trump administration is calling it the Indo-Pacific Alliance. Whereas the quad was to focus on economic cooperation, the Trump administration is more focused on its military aspects. One consequence of this move is to bring India out as a counter-weight to China. For the first time in history, India is siding with one great power to work against another great power.

    There were a lot of moves within a short period of less than two years during which Donald Trump has been America’s president. Almost all of them are negative resulting in the creation not of a new world order but the founding of global disorder. Trump has managed to reduce the scope of multilateralism, favouring instead the bilateral approach to the making of foreign policy. He has abandoned the effort to advance liberal democracy in the Muslim world. And he has pushed China towards seeking its own way in the world rather follow the global path. Policymakers in Pakistan have to keep all this in their sight as they plan to reposition their country on the world stage."

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1850168/6-pakistans-place-trump-global-disorder/


    Lesson for Pakistani leaders who appeased US, says Mazari after Trump’s tirade

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1850303...trumps-tirade/

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    Imran Khan Election Manifesto 2018 PTI Manifesto




    Imran Khan addresses 11 points on 29th April 2018 as Election Manifestos for coming elections 2018. Elections manifesto is the published verbal declaration of view of the issuer, motive or intentions of a person or a political party. It is considered as the public opinion to promote a new idea for carrying out change. PTI Election Manifesto 2018 has addressed by the Chairman of PTI in Lahore. Imran Khan Election Manifesto 2018 comprises upon 11 points for new Pakistan where justice would be the prime right of everyone, the single educational syllabus will be for rich and poor, the healthcare system will be improved, national investment will be increased and where tourism will be promoted. In Imran Khan 11 point Agenda in Lahore 2018, he also talked about the poor farmers and promised to work for the farmers so that they will get fair wages. In this article, you will learn about Imran Khan Election Manifesto.

    1: Education:

    Education is the prime motive of PTI. The party believes in the uniform educational syllabus which is both for poor and rich. There will not discriminate in the educational system, said by the chairman of PTI Imran Khan.

    2: Healthcare:

    The second point of Imran Khan Election manifesto 2018 is healthcare. The Chairman of PTI said he will build world’s best hospitals in Pakistan to fulfill the basic healthcare needs of nations. He also elaborated that if he can build SKMCH hospital without having in power, so what would he do when he will come in power.

    3: Tax Reform:

    In Pakistan mostly businessmen and landlord do not pay taxes due to poor taxation department. Tax reform is the third point in PTI Manifesto 2018, in which Imran Khan said that he will strengthen the FBR to collect taxes.

    4: Corruption:

    Corruption would be eliminated from Pakistan if we want prosperity. Every matter should be done on merit and corrupt people should be eliminated from the system. He also said that he is not corrupt and doesn’t like corruption at all.

    5: Investment:

    PTI Election Manifesto 2018 5th point is the investment. According to the Chairman of PTI, Industries will be strengthened in Pakistan so foreign investors could be attracted. He said he will increase foreign investment in Pakistan by ends and means.

    6: Employment:

    He also said that he will provide jobs to the unemployed persons in Pakistan. He will provide the better career opportunities to youngsters. In this point, Imran Khan said, he will build more than 50 lac houses for the poor. Shelter is one of the basic need of human and in this point he is talking about providing own houses to poor.

    6a: Tourism:

    Tourism is great source of foreign investment in Pakistan. Pakistan should welcome tourists because they are the great source of income. Tourism is also one of the 11 points of Imran Khan Manifesto 2018.

    7: Agriculture:

    Agriculture is also core motive of PTI. In PTI Election Manifesto 2018, Chairman of PTI said that he will strengthen the agriculture field so at least fair wages should be paid to the labors who work hard in the field from dawn to dusk to produce corps.

    8: Strengthen the Federation:

    Provinces will be empowered in PTI’s tenure. He will not only promote federation but also takes some serious steps like he will announce southern province on the administrative basis and will merge Tribal areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

    9: Environment:

    Imran Khan Said, the environment was their election manifesto priority in previous government in KPK, as they planted 10million trees. He said Lahore has become the most polluted city of Pakistan which is very regretful.

    10: Justice:

    PTI Chairman stressed upon justice and judiciary system. He said that he will make Punjab police as he made KPK police. He will make the judiciary system like KPK because there is not a single case proceed more than one year in KPK.

    11: Women Empowerment:

    In this point of Imran Khan Election manifesto 2018, he said that he will educate the women and will protect the inheritance rights of them.

    These are the PTI Election Manifesto 2018 addressed by the Chairman of PTI Imran Khan. Imran Khan Election Manifesto 2018 is clear and based on the basic rights of the public.


    https://sekho.com.pk/pakistan/imran-...ion-manifesto/
    And Imran khan, who cant get one christian woman who has been released by the high court, out of the country is going to accomplish all this?
    May I suggest you use an umbrella next time it rains gullibility?

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    4: Corruption:

    Corruption would be eliminated from Pakistan if we want prosperity. Every matter should be done on merit and corrupt people should be eliminated from the system. He also said that he is not corrupt and doesn’t like corruption at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    May I suggest you use an umbrella next time it rains gullibility?
    May I suggest that you allow the man his allotted time of office. Rather than calling him a fraud after a month or two.

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    He also said that he is not corrupt and doesn’t like corruption at all.
    It must be true, because I read comments from a poster on one forum that he is the only politician in Pakistan that isn't corrupt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It must be true, because I read comments from a poster on one forum that he is the only politician in Pakistan that isn't corrupt.

    Ever, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    May I suggest that you allow the man his allotted time of office. Rather than calling him a fraud after a month or two.
    Suggest you actually read my post. I didn't call him a fraud however, the head of a country giving in to a mobful of religion of peace exponents all baying for this poor womans' blood is hardly likely to do the hard yards on all those other issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Suggest you actually read my post. I didn't call him a fraud however, the head of a country giving in to a mobful of religion of peace exponents all baying for this poor womans' blood is hardly likely to do the hard yards on all those other issues.
    It's odd really, OhOh normally goes for the hardmen type that jail, torture or execute their opponents. It's not like him to stand up for a kow-towing spineless weasel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    I didn't call him a fraud however,
    Your own posts I believe.

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    who cant get
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    is hardly likely to do the hard yards
    It appears you have already written off the new President, in what, 3 months. Barely time to audit the books.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    type that jail, torture or execute their opponents.
    Your mistaken again 'arry.

    My distaste of those types of politicians, is obvious for all the intelligent readers to see, here in my TD posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    My distaste of those types of politicians, is obvious for all the intelligent readers to see, here in my TD posts.
    Loves Putin.
    Loves Xi.

    Thinks intelligent posters haven't noticed.

    Your mixture of sycophancy and idiocy is quite amusing.

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    Happy to lighten your day, or should we be serious in this open arena?

    I have my permit safely tucked away,do you have your exit permit at hand?

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    The world according to OhOh....

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    ^ What the one - who Harry RIPed and honors so much - declared:

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I did look on Russia Today for an obituary, but there isn't one. Perhaps they are still writing it.
    Zhores Medvedev, a scientist and one of the most prominent political dissidents in the former Soviet Union, whose writings exposed quackery and fraud in Soviet scientific programs and led to his arrest and eventual exile from his homeland, died Nov. 15 in London. He died one day after his 93rd birthday.

    Who Killed Litvinenko? Perhaps Not Russia After All
    1/26/15 AT 8:36 AM

    A Soviet-era exiled scientist, Zhores Medvedev, insists that Russia itself is among those who argue that the country is not the only source of polonium. There is evidence, too, that in the wake of Berezovsky’s death last year, Scotland Yard is taking a new look at its earlier investigation into the Litvinenko case. Some also maintain that Owen has retreated from his earlier assumption that this was a (Russian) state-directed assassination. This line was put about, first by anonymous security sources, and later by the director of public prosecutions at the time, Ken Macdonald. If true, this would change a great deal.
    https://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/30/...ia-301896.html

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    It appears that after accusing Pakistan of assisting terrorists, goldilocks has now requested assistance to solve the Afghanistan quagmire it finds itself in.

    In letter to PM Imran, Trump seeks negotiated settlement of Afghan war: FO

    "ISLAMABAD: US President Donald Trump, in his letter addressed to Prime Minister Imran Khan, has stated that his most important regional priority was achieving a negotiated settlement of the Afghan war. In this regard, he has sought Pakistan's support and facilitation.

    According to a press release issued by the Foreign Office on Monday, President Trump has also acknowledged that the war had cost both USA and Pakistan.

    He has emphasized that Pakistan and USA should explore opportunities to work together and renew partnership.



    “Since Pakistan has always advocated a political settlement to end war in Afghanistan, US decision is welcomed,” it said.

    Pakistan reiterates its commitment to play a facilitation role in good faith.
    Peace and stability in Afghanistan remains a shared responsibility, the statement added."

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40...-of-afghan-war



    President Trump's Letter to Prime Minister Imran Khan

    "(2018-12-03) US President Donald Trump, in his letter addressed to Prime Minister Imran Khan, has stated that his most important regional priority was achieving a negotiated settlement of the Afghan war. In this regard, he has sought Pakistan's support and facilitation.

    President Trump has also acknowledged that the war had cost both USA and Pakistan. He has emphasized that Pakistan and USA should explore opportunities to work together and renew partnership.

    Since Pakistan has always advocated a political settlement to end war in Afghanistan, US decision is welcomed. Pakistan reiterates its commitment to play a facilitation role in good faith. Peace and stability in Afghanistan remains a shared responsibility."



    Islamabad

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    Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Islamabad, Pakistan

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