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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh FFS our resident apologist is squealing again.
    So, unsubstantiated fake news, currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    So, unsubstantiated fake news, currently.
    Not at all.







    
    Zhang Wenhao, the husband of the owner of ‘Phoenix’ – T.C. Blue Company – has revealed to Chinese media that his wife manages the company. He says he is one of the employees. All employees in the company, except captains and boat crews, are all Chinese.
    
    The ‘Phoenix’ is owned by 26 year old Woraluck Rueakchaiyakan, who has a Chinese husband. Since the incident occurred Mr Zhang has not been seen. Khun Woraluck has already met with police and officials.

    In the past few days, Mr Zhang has revealed to Chinese newspaper ‘Xin Jing Bao’ that his wife is a committee member of the T.C. Blue Company. The ‘Phoenix’ was constructed in 2016. It has been used as a tour boat since September last year. Mr Zhang says that he is a dive instructor.

    Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/t...-chinese-media



    Zhang Wenhao, the husband of the owner of ‘Phoenix’ – T.C. Blue Company – has revealed to Chinese media that his wife manages the company. He says he is one of the employees. All employees in the company, except captains and boat crews, are all Chinese.
    
    The ‘Phoenix’ is owned by 26 year old Woraluck Rueakchaiyakan, who has a Chinese husband. Since the incident occurred Mr Zhang has not been seen. Khun Woraluck has already met with police and officials.

    In the past few days, Mr Zhang has revealed to Chinese newspaper ‘Xin Jing Bao’ that his wife is a committee member of the T.C. Blue Company. The ‘Phoenix’ was constructed in 2016. It has been used as a tour boat since September last year. Mr Zhang says that he is a dive instructor.

    Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/t...-chinese-media


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    Clearly "fake news".


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    Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    Hearing that the operator was a Chinese company using local nominees. The owner having already fled Thailand

    Your sources have been correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    So, unsubstantiated fake news, currently.
    See the time stamp regarding you non linked or sourced post and my retort.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Not at all.
    Thanks you for your post.

    The Chinese husband of the owner of ‘Phoenix’ speaks to Chinese media




    Published 6 hours ago on July 10, 2018



    By Kritsada Mueanhawong






    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Clearly "fake news".
    Not anymore, as illustrated by AO's post, published today at about 9am.
    Last edited by OhOh; 10-07-2018 at 06:11 PM.
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    double post
    Last edited by OhOh; 10-07-2018 at 06:13 PM.

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    What the article fails to mention is that these boats are are built from recycled tin cans and old trucks and fail to meet just about any maritime construction standards.

    The term "rustbucket" was never more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    What the article fails to mention is that these boats are are built from recycled tin cans and old trucks and fail to meet just about any maritime construction standards.
    These actual boats are of Thai construction then?

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    Yes, I believe they are.

    There was an item on television, the afternoon news today, about a "shipyard" where boats were being constructed out of old trucks, containers and recycled junk. The police arrested the owner of the site. I would imagine a lot of the medium sized tourist boats used for these zero dollar chinese tour groups are sourced cheaply from such outfits where construction methods are unorthodox and standards are non existent, hence the frequency with which they catch fire, explode, capsize and sink.

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    Built in Thailand or China? Quite important as our glorious leaders are buying a bunch of Chinese submarines that are guaranteed to occasionally sink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Yes, I believe they are.

    There was an item on television, the afternoon news today, about a "shipyard" where boats were being constructed out of old trucks, containers and recycled junk. The police arrested the owner of the site. I would imagine a lot of the medium sized tourist boats used for these zero dollar chinese tour groups are sourced cheaply from such outfits where construction methods are unorthodox and standards are non existent, hence the frequency with which they catch fire, explode, capsize and sink.
    The Chinese knock off everything else, so why not knock off tourist boats if you can save a few quid?

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    Tourist Police check 11 areas tied to boats sinking off Phuket

    PHUKET, 11th July 2018 (NNT) – Tourist Police teams have been dispatched to inspect boats in 11 targeted areas following the boat accidents in Phuket waters last week. The authorities say that legal action will be taken against the tour companies responsible for the incidents, one of which caused great loss of life

    Deputy Commander of the Tourist Police, Pol Maj Gen Surachet Hakpal led the inspection of 11 targeted areas connected to the two boats involved in the incidents. Police are focused on inspecting boats as well as their origins and manifests to discern if any is being operated as low cost transport by nominee entities of foreign businesses.

    Pol Maj Gen Surachet says that tax regulations are being examined to allow the Anti-Money Laundering Office (AMLO) to seize the accounts of the operators of Serenata and Phoenix, the two boats involved in separate incidents. While both companies were found to be properly registered with the Department of Business Development, they are suspected of acting as nominees for foreign companies with ties to Tran Li Travel, a so-called zero baht tour group that faced legal action in 2015. The tour operator that rented Serenata is to also face charges of neglect leading to loss of life and injury and its foreign employees are to be deported.

    Due to continued harsh weather, the salvage operations for the capsized boats has been unable to continue and rescue operations have been slow going. Nonetheless, authorities received reports from fishermen that they had seen two bodies near Phi Phi Island. The two are thought likely to be from the Phoenix.

    Royal Thai Navy Region 3 meanwhile, has stated that retrieval and rescue operations must be held off until weather conditions improve.



    National News Bureau Of Thailand | Tourist Police check 11 areas tied to boats sinking off Phuket

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    Min of Tourism and Sports clarifies compensations for Chinese tourists

    BANGKOK, 11th July 2018 (NNT) - A committee overseeing a tourist compensation fund has resolved to pay nearly 64 million baht in compensation to 135 Chinese tourists who were affected by a boat accident in Phuket last week.

    Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Tourism and Sports, Pongpanu Svetarundra said today the committee agreed in principle to compensate the Chinese tourists with a sum of 63.96 million baht. The money will be presented to the Chinese embassy in Thailand by July 12th.

    Out of that figure, 56 million baht will be given to the families of the deceased, 5 million baht to the injured, 1.48 million baht for psychological rehabilitation purposes and the remaining 1.48 million baht will be given to those whose trips had to be cut short due to the accident.

    Pongpanu said Chinese tourists accounted for 30% of all foreign visitors last year. He expected the number of Chinese tourists to increase by 10% this year.

    Meanwhile, Tourism and Sports Minister Weerasak Kowsurat said the sum of money to be paid to the Chinese tourists was only an estimated amount, adding that further discussions among committee members would be needed to finalize the compensation.

    The minister also advised all involved not to share any video clips of the victims, because doing so would violate their rights.


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    The minister also advised all involved not to share any video clips of the victims, because doing so would violate their rights.
    I imagine drowning probably violates a right or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Pongpanu said Chinese tourists accounted for 30% of all foreign visitors last year. He expected the number of Chinese tourists to increase by 10% this year.
    Whoo hoo/Whu Hu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Whoo hoo/Whu Hu.
    Is that win/win in Chinese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    sure you got 'em all there pag?

    Let's all cross our fingers Thailand doesn't have a fallout with tourist numbers from this event.

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    Tourists must prioritize safety over thrill

    Editor’s note: By Wednesday, the death toll in the twin-ferry tragedy off Phuket Island in Thailand had risen to 45 with two Chinese tourists still missing. The two ferries were carrying Chinese tourists when they capsized in the rough sea on July 5. Two experts share their views with China Daily’s Zhang Zhouxiang on how to ensure Chinese tourists’ safety overseas. Excerpts follow:



    Thai authorities can’t shirk responsibility


    Some media outlets quoted Prawit Wongsuwan, deputy prime minister and defense minister of Thailand, as saying a Chinese national could be the owner of the travel agency “responsible” for the tragedy and provided inexpensive tourist services to Chinese groups. This is a provocative and irresponsible statement. And although he apologized on Tuesday for his remark, it’s high time the Thai tourism and security authorities reflected on how to ensure the safety of tourists.


    Since the official investigation into the incident is yet to conclude, it would be inappropriate to judge the veracity of Wongsuwan’s claims. But even if what he said is true, the Thai government cannot shirk its responsibility for guaranteeing the safety and security of tourists.


    Wongsuwan was also quoted as saying the two ferries insisted on sailing out to sea despite warnings from the local weather station not to do so. If that is true, it only reflects the poor tourism management of the local authorities. The officials managing the ferry piers could have halted all operations, so that no ferry could set sail.


    Other media reports show the two ferries were not the only ones to sail on the fateful day after the weather warning was issued — the other ferries were simply “lucky” not to meet with an accident.


    The Travel and Tourism Competitiveness Report 2017 of the World Economic Forum ranked Thailand 118th in terms of safety and security among the 136 economies surveyed. The report also said the World Travel and Tourism Council forecasts that Thailand will be one of 10 fastest growing destinations for leisure-travel spending in the near future.
    As a country that relies heavily on its tourism industry, Thailand needs to do much more to guarantee the safety and security of tourists.




    Tourists must learn to say no when necessary


    Since the incident happened in Thai territory, the Thai officials have to own the responsibility to it. Despite that, Chinese tourists should pay greater attention to safety and security when traveling abroad, because sometimes it could be riskier than traveling within the country.


    And even if many media reports about “zero-price traveling groups” are not true, tourists should avoid traveling in such groups to ensure their safety and security. More often than not, “zero-price” often means the travel agency will not take many necessary safety measures to lower the cost.


    Besides, before traveling overseas, it is necessary to sign clear, unambiguous contracts with the travel agency and buy reliable travel insurance, so as to avoid legal disputes later. There have been cases in which the travel agency did not fulfill its promises, but the tourists had little evidence to sue it in court because the contracts they had signed were unclear. When it comes to risks, these contracts and insurance certificates become very important.


    Tourists should learn to say “no” when necessary for their own safety and security, and collect all the necessary information — about the weather and other risks for instance — before traveling to a foreign country. And even if the travel guides insist on sailing out to the sea after a weather warning, as in the case of the Phuket tragedy, tourists should refuse to board a ship or ferry, even call the police.


    Although guaranteeing the safety and security of tourists is the responsibility of the local authorities and the concerned travel agency, tourists can avoid dangers by saying “no” because no amount of compensation can bring them back to life.




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    The Chinese seem to be a bit upset for being blamed by General Bling.

    Anger in China over Thailand's handling of deadly boat accident

    Beijing (CNN)While the world celebrated the rescue of 12 boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave in northern Thailand, in China frustration and anger have grown over Thai authorities' handling of the sinking of two tourist boats which left more than 40 people dead.



    The two boats carrying more than 120 Chinese tourists capsized and sank in a huge storm last Thursday off the resort island of Phuket. Several passengers were still missing almost a week later.


    A huge backlash against Thailand ensued after the country's deputy prime minister, Gen. Prawit Wongsuwan, blamed Chinese tour operators in Phuket for the deadly accident.


    "This accident was entirely Chinese harming Chinese," Prawit was seen telling local reporters Monday in a widely circulated video.

    "The boats were theirs, and they ignored warnings and insisted on sailing out to sea. We weren't responsible for that -- they were. They have to resolve this themselves."


    Chinese social media and official newspapers responded harshly to Prawit's comments, forcing a hasty apology.

    The state-run China Daily called his comments "provocative and irresponsible."


    "Even if what he said is true, the Thai government cannot shirk its responsibility for guaranteeing the safety and security of tourists," it said.


    Users on the Twitter-like service Weibo, citing witnesses who were at the scene, said there was no official warning in Phuket against sailing when the ship left port, before it encountered inclement weather at sea.


    They also questioned the actions of the boats' Thai crews, who reportedly abandoned passengers when water rushed in.

    Some claimed survivors and grieving families arriving from China faced red tape and bureaucratic delays when trying to see and identify the bodies of their loved ones.


    "Can China be so easily bullied now -- and Chinese lives be so carelessly trampled on?" one popular Weibo post read Wednesday. "I'm happy for the Thai soccer boys who were rescued, but I will never go visit that country again!"


    Calls for a boycott


    China is the biggest source of foreign visitors to Thailand, where tourism is a major industry. Almost 10 million Chinese nationals visited Thailand last year, according to official statistics.


    Amid rising calls in China to boycott Thailand, the military government in Bangkok seems to have switched to damage-control. On Tuesday Thailand's embassy in Beijing issued a statement saying Prawit's remarks "may have traumatized families of the victims," and that the general expressed his "regret and apology" to the Chinese tourists in the accident.

    "Thailand will provide the best and fairest treatment to all tourists affected by this accident," it added. "We will work closely with China to formulate preventative measures to avoid similar accidents from happening again."

    Thai rescue and paramedic personnel attend to rescued passengers of capsized tourist boat in rough seas at a port in Phuket on Thursday.


    Following the Thai embassy statement Tuesday, the Chinese government appeared to move to dampen public criticism, reiterating that the ongoing search and rescue missions conducted by the Thai authorities and highlighting Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha's visit to hospitals where injured Chinese tourists were being treated.


    "The search area has been expanded," said Hua Chunying, a Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman. "The Thai side promised that their search efforts will not cease until every missing Chinese tourist is found."


    She added that the "Thai police will find out the cause of the accident as soon as possible and figure out the parties who are to blame for the accident and hold them accountable with no tolerance."


    Phuket Governor Norraphat Plodthong told CNN that a Chinese team has been working with Thai authorities in the rescue effort. He declined to comment when asked about Prawit's comments.


    But for some Chinese, though, the Phuket accident seems to have become a turning point in their perception about Thailand.


    "(We) were sending well wishes and prayers to the Thai soccer team boys trapped in the cave and China even participated in the rescue," a Weibo user wrote Wednesday.


    "It was disgusting and chilling to see that Thai deputy prime minister to wave off their responsibility in the Phuket boat accident after so many Chinese tourists perished."




    CNN's Pia Deshpande in Hong Kong and Nanlin Fang in Beijing contributed to this report


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/asia/...ntl/index.html

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    Chinese run zero dollar tours can only operate in thailand with the help of the local thai authorities and all that that entails. $$$.

    The thai deputy pm should be ashamed of himself for making those statements, but of course the thai will never accept responsibility for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    The thai deputy pm should be ashamed of himself for making those statements
    ...Thainess doesn't do shame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Chinese run zero dollar tours can only operate in thailand with the help of the local thai authorities and all that that entails. $$$.

    The thai deputy pm should be ashamed of himself for making those statements, but of course the thai will never accept responsibility for anything.
    I agree. Is the alleged boat owner a Chinese invester/citizen or just a Thai of Chinese descent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    "The boats were theirs, and they ignored warnings and insisted on sailing out to sea. We weren't responsible for that -- they were. They have to resolve this themselves."
    Er, not in Thailand they don't and won't, if Thai authorities accept 'their word' or something more spendable that the Chinese boats are seaworthy.

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    Saw one report on CGNT quoting a Thai source blaming the tourists for putting on the so called life jackets while still on the boat. It was claimed they then floated to the top of the boat and got trapped and could not swim out. All with no investigation yet carried out, better than they committed mass suicide I suppose.

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    Mission continued to recover body of last victim in Phuket boat mishap


    PHUKET, 13 July 2018 (NNT) – Rescuers have continued to carry out the mission to recover the body of the last deceased victim of last week's tourist boat capsizing off Phuket.

    The operation to recover the remains of the last victim from Phoenix boat which capsized has been continued today, with divers having already diving four times to install sand removal tools.

    Rescuers are comprised of 20 divers from the Thai navy, 10 Chinese divers, three marine policemen, and five volunteer divers from New Zealand, Scotland, Portugal, and Australia.

    Today's operation commenced from 10 a.m., with four dives already made to install the portable sand removal tools. Divers were now in the process of making the fifth dive, which might last up to two hours to attempt to remove the sand and recover the body.

    The operation would likely be successful if the weather and sea remained calm.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand | Mission continued to recover body of last victim in Phuket boat mishap

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    Our glorious leaders should consider establishing a nationwide farang search and rescue unit.

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