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    Trump Kim summit: Pentagon remains 'ironclad' after war games cancelled

    The Pentagon has reassured allies of its "ironclad" security commitments, after President Donald Trump cancelled its Korean military exercises.
    Mr Trump made the announcement after historic talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore - the first such talks between the two countries.
    The drills - often called "war games" - are held in South Korea with local forces and US soldiers stationed there.
    The cancellation is seen as a significant concession to North Korea.


    The Kim-Trump summit meeting centred on nuclear disarmament and reducing tensions concluded with a one-page agreement.
    In the press conference afterwards, however, Mr Trump added another announcement: the cancellation of the war games.
    Image copyrightREUTERSHe also said he wanted to bring US troops home - although he did not specify a timeframe.
    Mr Trump said the drills were "provocative" - even though the US has previously defended them - and there were suggestions that US allies in the region had not been forewarned of this move.
    Did the Pentagon know?

    The previous day US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters he did not believe that troop levels were on the agenda. When asked if he would know if such discussions were planned, he said, "Yeah, I sure would."
    Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionThere are thousands of US soldiers in South KoreaHowever, the Pentagon has since denied that Mr Mattis was caught off guard. He was consulted ahead of time, said Pentagon spokesperson Dana White.
    In a statement sent to the BBC, she said: "Our alliances remain ironclad, and ensure peace and stability in the region."
    How did South Korea react?

    Earlier, South Korea's Presidential Blue House said it needed "to find out the precise meaning or intentions" of Mr Trump's statement.
    South Korean President Moon Jae-in spoke by phone with Mr Trump for 20 minutes late on Tuesday, but an official readout of the call made no mention of military exercises, according to Reuters news agency.
    What are the war games?

    The US maintains around 30,000 troops in South Korea and once a year it brings in others - typically from its Pacific base in Guam - to join large-scale drills.


    North Korea sees the annual exercises as a rehearsal for invasion, but the government in Seoul maintains they are defensive in nature.
    Mr Trump said scrapping them will save a "tremendous amount of money", but he added that they could be reinstated if co-operation from the North declines.
    What else did they agree at the summit?

    The summit began with a handshake, unimaginable just months ago.
    Mr Trump and Mr Kim - who traded vicious insults last year - gripped each other's hands in front of US and North Korean flags.








    Media captionThe hidden messages in Trump-Kim gesturesAfter a one-on-one meeting, followed by wider talks with advisers and a working lunch, they presented their agreement.
    It said the two countries would co-operate towards "new relations", while the US would provide "security guarantees" to North Korea.
    Mr Kim also "reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula".








    Media captionTrump: "The past does not have to define our future"Observers say the document lacks substance, in particular on how denuclearisation would be achieved.
    However, speaking to reporters after, Mr Trump said:

    • Mr Kim had agreed to denuclearisation being "verified", a key US demand ahead of the meeting
    • Mr Trump said Mr Kim had also agreed to destroy a "major missile engine testing site"
    • But he said sanctions would remain in place for now and argued "we haven't given up anything".

    Several reporters asked whether Mr Trump had raised the issue of human rights with Mr Kim, who runs a totalitarian regime with extreme censorship and forced-labour camps.


    The US president said he had, and repeated his description of Mr Kim as "talented".
    Politics turned upside down

    Analysis by Anthony Zurcher, BBC North America reporter
    Two years ago Barack Obama travelled to Cuba - and was roundly denounced by conservatives for breaking bread with totalitarian leaders and praised by liberals for his statesmanship. Now, with Donald Trump's summit with Kim Jong-un, the tables have been turned. Mostly.
    On conservative Fox News and among Mr Trump's core supporters, the president was lauded for a historic diplomatic breakthrough. Among Democrats, there was more than a fair amount of concern that the president was engaging in a glorified publicity stunt with little chance of success.
    Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionSouth Korean newspapers reporting the Trump-Kim summitRepublicans in Congress have been more measured. There was plenty of talk of "historic first steps", in Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's words, but concern over how the yet-to-be negotiated verification details will turn out.
    A few other conservatives expressed dismay at seeing the US and North Korean flags side-by-side, and viewed Mr Trump's solicitous manner and warm words for Mr Kim as too much, given his nation's history of human rights violations.
    "Needless to say, we would've wrecked Obama for doing this," tweeted conservative blogger Allahpundit.
    Tuesday was the latest reminder that in just 16 months, US - and international - politics have been turned upside down.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44462628

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    One wonders what the ameristani politicians back home and the UNSC will eventually agree to pass.

    Or who should we believe, the POTUSE, the various ameristani political spokesmen, an appointed ameristani official or the unanimous UNSC resolution?

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    Fantastic, think of the money they will save They will be able to give that money to the poor folks now

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    It makes me laugh when baldy orange cunto whinges about foreign nations "not paying their share".

    The reason the US has all these troops, equipment and bases is for *their* national interests.

    I don't know why the countries they are whinging at don't just tell them to fuck off.

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    Trump's an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Trump's an idiot.
    Just say what you think, don't hold back!
    Personally I have no opinion of him, the one thing I do like about him is the MSM seem to hate him more than the dems (or is that the same thing?) which ain't such a bad thing Entertaining to see the lefties crying - still.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Fantastic, think of the money they will save They will be able to give that money to the poor folks now
    Yes, like Brexit released a millions daily for the NHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It makes me laugh when baldy orange cunto whinges about foreign nations "not paying their share".

    The reason the US has all these troops, equipment and bases is for *their* national interests.

    I don't know why the countries they are whinging at don't just tell them to fuck off.
    The people of South Korea did just that a few years ago, after some GIs got drunk and raped or killed or did something nasty to some kids. Then NOKO reminded them it was still there, and they joined in communal gratitude to their protectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Personally I have no opinion of him
    Uh Huh

    Entertaining to see the lefties crying - still.......
    Your trumpanzee is showing.

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    Trump is awesome !!! getting better and better day by day

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    Rocket man 1 - Chump 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Your trumpanzee is showing
    Really? IMO the whole political front is one huge charade, its amusing how many are sucked and convinced their opinion and there man is the anointed one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
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    Agreed...RM gave up nothing and yet the war games are history...

    Who gained what here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
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    Yep. The US gets a few mouldy skeletons back, and Kim gets most of what he planned on getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't know why the countries they are whinging at don't just tell them to fuck off.
    Financial Armageddon, military Armageddon or personal Armageddon. All of which is provided to the "powerful" current blackmailers by their vassal countries/taxpayers via the blackmailed democratically elected officials and bankers.

    "Your with us or against us", "It was worth it", "you don't like dollars", just watch your currency fall or your national institutions be bankrupted ................. type of threats/sudden disturbances.




    Oh, there will be much more to arrive at Kim's feet, before this ends.
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