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    Major drinking water manufacturers agree to use less plastic

    BANGKOK, 13th February 2018 (NNT) - Government agencies and the private sector have signed an agreement to stop using plastic film covering water bottle caps in an effort to reduce plastic garbage on land and sea.

    Permanent Secretary for Natural Resources and the Environment Wichan Simachaya, presided on Tuesday over the signing of the agreement between the Pollution Control Department, the Department of Environmental Quality Promotion, the FDA, the Office of The Consumer Protection Board, the Thai Beverage Industry Association, the Thai Retailers Association, the Thai Plastic Industries Association and the Plastics Institute of Thailand.

    According to the ministry, Thailand produces around 2.6 billion plastic water bottles a year. Lightweight plastic covering water bottle caps poses a threat to the environment on land and at sea since it does not decompose.

    Five major drinking water manufacturers have agreed to stop using the plastic to cover water bottle caps from 1st April this year. After that, the ministry will urge other companies to follow suit.

    http://thainews.prd.go.th/website_en...T6102140010003

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    About time.
    You read about all the turtles and fish dying from eating plastic, yet you always have to wonder about those little plastic coverings on the water bottles.
    What do you do with them?
    If you set them in an ashtray or on the table in a restaurant, the fan often blows them on the floor.
    There is no trash receptacles to be found to throw them away as Thailand seemingly hates trash cans.
    So, I put them in my pocket and then the wife complains about them when doing the laundry.
    I always said they were a bad thing.
    We stopped buying bottles that had them on.
    Now, finally the water companies are stopping this bad practice.
    OK, rant over.
    I can die happy now.

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    Major drinking water bottlers agree to use less plastic


    There fixed it for you! FFS no one makes drinking water

    On a serious note it is not the small cappy things it is the label wrapper thingies. They don't get recycled probably because they are either the wrong plastic or too light so they simply accumulate in piles out the back of mom and pop recyclers.

    Not the answer blowing in the wind but the labels.
    Better to think inside the pub, than outside the box?
    I apologize if any offence was caused. unless it was intended.
    You people, you think I know feck nothing; I tell you: I know feck all
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    Why not develop a universal recycling refund [B5 per bottle?] on the proverbial plastic bottles.
    Might encourage the population to be less careless with the shit and promote the ideals of recycling in some regard........or not.

    Anything would be an improvement than what these bumblebutts might be suggesting -

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    plastic film covering water bottle caps
    That film sleeve which is thermally shrunk around the bottle cap is there because the cap is not tamper evident.

    Just design a better tamper proof cap and the shrink film is not needed.

    Saves on packaging costs as well.

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    ^ Or develop a biodegradable cap cover....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Or develop a biodegradable cap cover....
    They already have this product available but it adds costs Nid.

    Improve the cap performance and job done mate.

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    I hope this continues in other countries.. no need to cover the bottle with plastic if it is sealed properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    They already have this product available but it adds costs Nid.
    It doesn't matter if it costs.. maybe to the company, but it costs animals and people their lives when this plastic gets put in the water system.

    Companies need to wake the fuck up, excuse my language.

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    Why not use recyclable glass bottles instead of plastic? It works for beer so why not for water too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    Why not use recyclable glass bottles instead of plastic? It works for beer so why not for water too?
    Fucking right.

    This single use plastic shite has to stop.

    Mind you I get looked at like a fucking alien when I produce my own ecofriendly shopping bag.

    In this part of the world you are expected to take the 20 carrier bags the packer uses if you purchase 20 items, no matter how small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fucking right.

    This single use plastic shite has to stop.

    Mind you I get looked at like a fucking alien when I produce my own ecofriendly shopping bag.

    In this part of the world you are expected to take the 20 carrier bags the packer uses if you purchase 20 items, no matter how small.
    Reasonably stated, Harry....

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    Vaste profits they're

    PISSING THE TAKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fucking right.

    This single use plastic shite has to stop.

    Mind you I get looked at like a fucking alien when I produce my own ecofriendly shopping bag.

    In this part of the world you are expected to take the 20 carrier bags the packer uses if you purchase 20 items, no matter how small.
    Good man , me too the ME seems less green in very way bar flags etc
    I think Asia is behind the curve so tax on bags/litter may be needed for knuckle draggers
    Cannot green you again yet.
    Sad so much of Thai country side is littered with plastic I pick up bottles on my bike and put in vullage skip but reluctant to handle food waste which is covered in insects etc
    Originally Posted by HuangLao
    Those with lesser cognitive reasoning should refrain from commentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Why not develop a universal recycling refund [B5 per bottle?] on the proverbial plastic bottles.
    Might encourage the population to be less careless with the shit and promote the ideals of recycling in some regard........or not.

    Anything would be an improvement than what these bumblebutts might be suggesting -
    Christ, are you straight/sober for the first time this millenium?. Your post is legible and makes perfect sense but I believe there's already a value for plastic bottles having seen so many people who seemingly make a living out of foraging them all over Thailand?. Obviously it's not enough value for people to not discard them though, so your idea of putting a higher bounty of (say) 5 Baht on them would surely make a big difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    That film sleeve which is thermally shrunk around the bottle cap is there because the cap is not tamper evident
    But there's still the tamper proof top anyway. I don't know what the correct terminology is but there's the cap which is attached to a ring that stays in place after the top is cracked off. You can see on unopened bottles off all types (water milk gatorade etc) that it's intact and feel/hear the crack as you twist the top off so shouldn't that be good enough to know it hasn't been tampered with anyway?. I do know that trying to get that fucking plastic wrapper off with one sweaty hand and a golf glove on the other will do anyone's head in!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    Why not use recyclable glass bottles instead of plastic?
    I don't know any company that promotes returnable bottles these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This single use plastic shite has to stop.
    A cheap alternative that will never be replaced. It just needs proper education to teach the end users how to bag the waste and to be prepared for re-cycling. My family collect all our plastic bottles for collection every month and the people who pick the load up make some money out of it.

    Amorphous glass bottles are expensive to produce, use a lot of energy and heat to produce and the breakage/ reject rate is very high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    But there's still the tamper proof top anyway. I don't know what the correct terminology is but there's the cap which is attached to a ring that stays in place after the top is cracked off. You can see on unopened bottles off all types (water milk gatorade etc) that it's intact and feel/hear the crack as you twist the top off so shouldn't that be good enough to know it hasn't been tampered with anyway?. I do know that trying to get that fucking plastic wrapper off with one sweaty hand and a golf glove on the other will do anyone's head in!.
    There is the problem that when the bottle and cap is initially opened at home normally the tamper proof ring seperates from the main cap body. But if you screw the main cap down onto the bottle neck there is no visible proof that the bottle cap has been removed because the underside of the cap skirt fits snugly against the tamper evident ring.

    Most customers do not inspect the cap and bottle neck when they purchase the product. That is the main problem. There needs to be a new cap designed whereby the base of the cap skirt is visibly deformed open initial opening. Up until today that has not been achieved hence the plastic shrink film sleeve has to be applied.

    I have spoken to a number of suppliers of consumer beverages and yes they agree the caps they use today are inferior.

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    Lots going on in work on biodegradable plastics. Still a few issues but like renewable energy devices, in time, reckon costs will come down to make usage common place.

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    And as we applaud, comment, give advice, suggest.... this continues.....


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    Caps that can't be tampered with do exist, but they add costs... The shrinkable caps covers are cheaper for the companies, so screw the environment I guess...

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    Nothing positive, or conscious change, will ever develop as long as the government/establishment and profitable plastic industries remain in collusion.

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    A solution is 3 little holes in the garden , wel,well,well

    As others observe a very small charge mught encourage returns

    Hotels I use sometimes have Glass free still water and plastic in teh mini bar

    They do have a metal tab which they could ask you to leave in a receptacle and re-use of glass

    Of course it may be heavy and brakable, we need to improve as a species if our neighbours on the planet will survive healthily

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    Thailand to stop using plastic bottle cap seals in 2019

    BANGKOK, 18th February 2018 (NNT) - Thailand will stop using plastic cap seals in drinking water bottles nationwide in 2019 in its effort to reduce plastic waste.

    The government agencies and the private sector have signed an agreement to stop using the plastic cap seals beginning April 1st, 2018, to minimize plastic garbage on land and the sea.

    The Natural Resources and the Environment Ministry permanent secretary Wijarn Simachaya said the Pollution Control Department, the Department of Environmental Quality Promotion, the Public Relations Department, the Food and Drug Administration, the Office of The Consumer Protection Board, the Thai Beverage Industry Association, the Thai Retailers Association, the Thai Plastic Industries Association and the Plastics Institute of Thailand had signed a memorandum of understanding to stop using plastic cap seals.

    Thailand currently produces around 2.6 billion plastic drinking water bottles a year. The plastic cap seals pose a threat to the environment both on land and the sea since it does not decompose.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand | Thailand to stop using plastic bottle cap seals in 2019

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    They'll just give you a bigger bag in 7.11 for your bottle.

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