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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    India is a fuckin nasty country. Was just there, again, and every time I cant wait to gtfo as soon as I arrive. Hate the place.

    Sorry indians. I know its not all like that, but I stepped in actual human shit in Mumbai this trip. Saw women shitting in the street like nothing...

    I could go on.

    Rancid place with a huge population of rancid people that do rancid shit. Hope whoever did this to the girl gets strung the fuck up.

    Unfortunately, there is zero sentiment for loss of life in that country so it will mean nothing.
    Most spiritual place on earth, I loved it. I guess it depends your level of awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee
    level of awareness.

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    ^female traveller here...

    I'm sorry for what happened to her. May she RIP and hope the guy who did it rots in jail.

    I agree that Western women may sometimes be naive or too trusting. I've met a nurse, Canadian, who was harassed, but thankfully she got out of that sticky situation. Upon analyzing her story, I realize that she somehow placed herself in that situation. Not placing the blame on her, but she could've done some safeguards, like not going alone w/ a tuktuk driver alone, in the middle of nowhere. (She was harassed by a tuktuk driver). However, the tuktuk driver is to blame, since he was hired to do a job but he attackes her. But as a wpman, it's hard to make a judgement call - will I go alone, or will I wait for a companion, a fellow traveller from the hotel/hostel? What if I had limited time & had only that day to see thay temple or ruins? Tough call...

    I must admit that I harbored some fear too, when I hired my driver/ guide to take me to an isolated waterfalls in Puerto Galera last year. I knew there was some risk, but I decided to take a chance. I think I wouldn't have done that hike if I wasn't in my own country & didn't speak the language.

    As for India, I haven't gone there. I would like to, sometime, but I wouldn't go there alone. Same as in the Middle East. There are times when common sense shld rule over adventure. A blogger that I used to follow, she went to India with her BF. Both were white. Girl was pretty. Both in their 20s, long term backpackers. Girl said that at times, she felt uneasy from the guys' looks/leers, even though she was w/ her BF & was dresssed conservatively.

    RIP to Danielle. She was beautiful & full of life, based on her pics.

    Sorry 4 typos, am on fone

    P.s. I remembered an article abt an Aussie girl (of Chinese heritage) who cut her hair & pretended to be a boy as she travelled alone throughout Central Asia & Middle East. I wouldn't do that, but I respect her for it. She haz ballz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    looks/leers
    Reminds me of this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    RIP to Danielle. She was beautiful & full of life, based on her pics.
    In really unfortunate you gals have to worry about this kind of shit.

    Safe or not to go out alone. Back in the States I cant recall a time where a female I knew was uneasy about going out by herself or going on a trip by herself etc... I mean not in the hood & shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    Upon analyzing her story, I realize that she somehow placed herself in that situation.
    Agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    Not placing the blame on her, but she could've done some safeguards
    Also agree.

    Taking a safe, coddled western person and drop them into an armpit of the earth isn't a safe thing to do. The world isn't safe & nice all the time and there are high risk and low risk locales.

    India isn't a great place for a single female to be exploring. Those kunts are just a slight step away from mob rule monkeys.

    India is a big place with good spots but to get to those good spots... Nah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    RIP to Danielle. She was beautiful & full of life, based on her pics.
    In really unfortunate you gals have to worry about this kind of shit.

    Safe or not to go out alone. Back in the States I cant recall a time where a female I knew was uneasy about going out by herself or going on a trip by herself etc... I mean not in the hood & shit.
    Why on ever not 'in the hood'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Why on ever not 'in the hood'?
    Because its not a safe place for a single female to be walking around in/make a trip through for whatever reason.

    Cant tell if you're being sarcastic.

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    These young women are usually hippys living in a fluffy world where everyone is nice, kind and gentle. They dont realise that these Indians are dirty bastards who would shag a barbers floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary
    These young women are usually hippys living in a fluffy world where everyone is nice, kind and gentle.
    You mean she actually lives in this forum ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    These young women are usually hippys living in a fluffy world where everyone is nice, kind and gentle. They dont realise that these Indians are dirty bastards who would shag a barbers floor.
    Every generation has them,so these stories will never end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    ^female traveller here...

    I'm sorry for what happened to her. May she RIP and hope the guy who did it rots in jail.

    I agree that Western women may sometimes be naive or too trusting. I've met a nurse, Canadian, who was harassed, but thankfully she got out of that sticky situation. Upon analyzing her story, I realize that she somehow placed herself in that situation. Not placing the blame on her, but she could've done some safeguards, like not going alone w/ a tuktuk driver alone, in the middle of nowhere. (She was harassed by a tuktuk driver). However, the tuktuk driver is to blame, since he was hired to do a job but he attackes her. But as a wpman, it's hard to make a judgement call - will I go alone, or will I wait for a companion, a fellow traveller from the hotel/hostel? What if I had limited time & had only that day to see thay temple or ruins? Tough call...

    I must admit that I harbored some fear too, when I hired my driver/ guide to take me to an isolated waterfalls in Puerto Galera last year. I knew there was some risk, but I decided to take a chance. I think I wouldn't have done that hike if I wasn't in my own country & didn't speak the language.

    As for India, I haven't gone there. I would like to, sometime, but I wouldn't go there alone. Same as in the Middle East. There are times when common sense shld rule over adventure. A blogger that I used to follow, she went to India with her BF. Both were white. Girl was pretty. Both in their 20s, long term backpackers. Girl said that at times, she felt uneasy from the guys' looks/leers, even though she was w/ her BF & was dresssed conservatively.

    RIP to Danielle. She was beautiful & full of life, based on her pics.

    Sorry 4 typos, am on fone

    P.s. I remembered an article abt an Aussie girl (of Chinese heritage) who cut her hair & pretended to be a boy as she travelled alone throughout Central Asia & Middle East. I wouldn't do that, but I respect her for it. She haz ballz!
    The problem is that they have been brought up in a "progressive paradise" where they are taught to not make assumptions about brown people etc... but when they go out into the parts of the world where this message nor aggressive feminism has
    reached, they are simply not switched on to it at all.
    In a lot of developing countries, you often see blokes doing this "staring" thing... like standing and staring for ages. If they were doing it in a western country, they'd likely get a slap and told to f off, but when you're in the "jungle" (urban or rural), you don't know for sure how many others are lying in wait to pounce.
    Western women need it drummed into them that they are entering sexist environments where they really do need to be chaperoned by western men, and they really do need to stop imagining they are in a western city centre on a friday night, and adapt to the local "constraints" of wherever they go.

    In days of yore, before the internet and smartphones, and global free porn, the developing world had a pervasive ignorance of the west, and a residual fear of the technologically advanced westerner, with their history of conquest, but this has gone, and been replaced by a much more complex and aggressive world of visible economic polarisation, and tribalistic religiosity and nationalism, and for all the superficial trinkets of modernity, most of these societies have skipped straight from pre-industrial to post-industrial, without going through the social changes that the long 200/300-year industrial period brought in the west, and that is the fundamental difference.

    It's obviously horrific for this girl and her family, but I think the schools and lefty establishment have something to answer for in not presenting young people with an honest reality of the situation in these idyllic exotic holiday hotspots. Those of us that have been around, take it for granted - it's common sense, but it ain't that common amongst the very young.

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    What Captain"Just call me Jeff"Nemo is trying to say is that niggers and coons in the third world are no longer afraid of whitey and when they fancy a bit of white meat, they just take it and fuck the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    These young women are usually hippys living in a fluffy world where everyone is nice, kind and gentle. They dont realise that these Indians are dirty bastards who would shag a barbers floor.
    I don't think this is true any more maybe thirty years ago but no longer, today travel to far flung places is as easy as catching train to london, easier if the latest BR strikes are anything to go by.
    My cousin is a young cardiologist, very intelligent very worldly and very beautiful, when she told me she was going to travel around Thailand alone for three months I was I was terrified for her and I told her all of the ways that she could come unstuck here and just how vulnerable she was, it was a real eye opener for her and although she still made the trip she did it with a cautious attitude. These kids see only paradise and not the reality.
    It wasn't me!

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    Will he "hang" for this?...

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    RIP.

    What a sad story..... I feel sorry for the girl. She's young, adventure seeking, having fun. On top of that, she seems like a v good person also. Life is not fair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    These young women are usually hippys living in a fluffy world where everyone is nice, kind and gentle. They dont realise that these Indians are dirty bastards who would shag a barbers floor.
    I don't think this is true any more maybe thirty years ago but no longer, today travel to far flung places is as easy as catching train to london, easier if the latest BR strikes are anything to go by.
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    I think this is still partly true. Western women live more sheltered lives. I've visited suburbian US, and lived in Europe for a bit, so I can compare them a bit. White gals may be very smart & articulate, but they most are not street smart. Not passing judgement, but probably bcos it's due to the "safe" environments that they live in. Most "green" backpackers or travellers don't care much for their belongings, making them easy targets for picjpockets & thieves in the 3rd world.

    One thing that my dad taught me when I started travelling alone to Manila (which is a sh*thole, I know), is that to always be watchful, be aware of myself, my companions & belongings. Heck, even some mid-so or hi-so ppl here would be robbed blind, bcos they aren't street smart.

    But I digress. Another thing that I observed is that white girls (esp the backpacker crowd) is that rhey tend to dress in skimpy clothing. Tank tops, shorty shorts, etc. This may be fine in farangland, but not in some parts of Asia. Can't blame them though, as it would be much hotter in SEA than in their home countries. Some cover up when visiting temples, but some don't. Thus, they become targets for assault. Not blaming the girls, but some guys see white legs in shorty shorts & their hormones run amok.

    Just to add to the story of my travels in Puerto Galera - whenever I traveled w/ the driver, it was a pre-arranged ride. I gave my name, my number, person to contact in case of trouble - to the resort staff. I also gave the name & number of the driver that I hired. Maybe I was overly cautious, but in my mind, better safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    I think this is still partly true. Western women live more sheltered lives. I've visited suburbian US, and lived in Europe for a bit, so I can compare them a bit. White gals may be very smart & articulate, but they most are not street smart. Not passing judgement, but probably bcos it's due to the "safe" environments that they live in. Most "green" backpackers or travellers don't care much for their belongings, making them easy targets for picjpockets & thieves in the 3rd world.

    One thing that my dad taught me when I started travelling alone to Manila (which is a sh*thole, I know), is that to always be watchful, be aware of myself, my companions & belongings. Heck, even some mid-so or hi-so ppl here would be robbed blind, bcos they aren't street smart.

    But I digress. Another thing that I observed is that white girls (esp the backpacker crowd) is that rhey tend to dress in skimpy clothing. Tank tops, shorty shorts, etc. This may be fine in farangland, but not in some parts of Asia. Can't blame them though, as it would be much hotter in SEA than in their home countries. Some cover up when visiting temples, but some don't. Thus, they become targets for assault. Not blaming the girls, but some guys see white legs in shorty shorts & their hormones run amok.

    Just to add to the story of my travels in Puerto Galera - whenever I traveled w/ the driver, it was a pre-arranged ride. I gave my name, my number, person to contact in case of trouble - to the resort staff. I also gave the name & number of the driver that I hired. Maybe I was overly cautious, but in my mind, better safe than sorry.
    Your right Katie Manila is a shithole I hated the place, I have a young daughter there who I would love to get out to be with me but it's unlikely that will ever happen. Do you remember those t-shirts the young Filipinos wore a while back with the words printed on them "it's not rape it's a cuddle with a struggle", that just about sums up the attitude to rape over there. I don't think your precautions are at all over the top I think they are the most sensible thing you could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Doesn't matter if she was a well seasoned traveler or just some stupid naive girl. She has a mother, father, sister, brothers etc and she is dead.

    If it was one of yours you wouldn't be taking the piss.

    Nobody deserves what happened to her.
    I totally agree.

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    When I travel and if I have to take a taxi, I sit directly at the back of the driver. If the cab driver wants to do something funny, he needs to stop driving first.....
    (He'll need to turn around..... )


    And if somebody asks for your wallet and he/she has a knife with him, never hand it to him/her. Throw it as far as you can and run as fast as you can.

    In the house, I usually leave some cash in the living room before I sleep.... If there are burglars, it is v likely that they will just grab the money and leave.

    Little things could mean the difference between life and death.
    I am so unlucky that if I fall into a barrel full of D*ick**s, I'd come out sucking my own thumb!

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    Many gap yah types have an odd racist view that poor brown people are all uncorrupted, spiritual, loving types. None of them would walk alone at night in a London park the same as they do when they reach a "tropical paradise".

    They'll probably blame this rape on MTV or other nefarious western influences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    When I travel and if I have to take a taxi, I sit directly at the back of the driver. If the cab driver wants to do something funny, he needs to stop driving first..
    i dont think many get raped whilst the cars moving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    When I travel and if I have to take a taxi, I sit directly at the back of the driver. If the cab driver wants to do something funny, he needs to stop driving first..
    i dont think many get raped whilst the cars moving
    Not all sexual assault involves rape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
    Many gap yah types have an odd racist view that poor brown people are all uncorrupted, spiritual, loving types. None of them would walk alone at night in a London park the same as they do when they reach a "tropical paradise".

    They'll probably blame this rape on MTV or other nefarious western influences.
    MTV??? What are you, 100 years old?

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    Funeral of Goa murder victim Danielle McLaughlin hears she left a 'legacy of love

    Just one encounter with her was enough to change someone’s life', Fr Bradley


    The funeral of backpacker Danielle McLaughlin, who was found murdered at an Indian beach resort, has heard the young woman left a "legacy of love".

    Family and friends of the 28-year-old have asked mourners attending the ceremony in Buncrana, Co Donegal, to wear bright colours to "celebrate" her life.

    Ms McLaughlin was travelling in Goa when she was killed earlier this month.

    Her body was discovered in Canacona, a popular tourist area in the south of the Indian state.

    Her funeral is taking place at the Cockhill Chapel in Buncrana at 11am.

    Ms McLaughlin's close friends Christy Duffy and Louise McMenamin have asked those attending the funeral "not to abide by the usual dress code of black".

    Her friends said while they were heartbroken, they want to honour her "kind and vibrant" personality.

    "We are obviously heartbroken at the loss of our very close friend, but we would like to honour her in the way she would have liked, not focusing on the horrors of the world and giving in to hate, but honouring kindness and expressing our love for Danielle."

    Father Francis Bradley told those gathered that Danielle was a "beautiful daughter, a cherished grand-daughter, a thoughtful sister, a loyal friend, a free-spirit, a remarkable classmate, a gentle neighbour; the little girl who became the lovely woman who was Danielle McLaughlin".

    He told mourners how they cannot allow death to have the final word.

    Outpouring of grief: Tributes placed by mourners at the location where the body of Irish tourist Danielle McLaughlin was found in Goa
    He said: "We try to get our heads around her loss. Her death so young; the suddenness of it; its callous nature would leave us speechless were it not for the fact that we gather here too as a people of faith, hope and great love, determined that in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, we, as his followers, can never allow death to have the final word.

    "Danielle herself, with her kindly heart and searching mind, would never countenance such a thing."

    Fr Bradley told the congregation that Danielle's life was made up of "many journeys" but that it was in Buncrana that she found her home.

    He said: "Strong and lasting friendships were forged here – the presence of so many of Danielle’s peers bear testimony to this.

    "She has been mourned by people of all ages who have been touched by her life and challenged by her death. Although intensely private, Danielle has made a huge impression on people’s lives. She was disarmingly kind and forgiving; her warm nature and open heart drew people into her ever-widening, extensive and international circle of friends.

    "A brief glance at the vast array of tender messages for Danielle’s mother Andrea, her family and friends, shows the immense esteem in which she was held. She had a gentle but powerful way with her – for it seems that just one encounter with her was enough to change someone’s life."

    Fr Bradley spoke of Danielle's "gentleness of heart" and how she had a "heart so forgiving that it healed the hurts of those around her".

    He said: "Her legacy should be that of joy and thanksgiving and peace. We cannot allow the brevity of Danielle’s life, or the malice which cut it short, to spoil her memory or impair her beauty."

    Fr Bradley described Danielle as a "colourful character" who was a gifted student in dance and drama.

    Danielle became a colourful character, like a gem which caught the light and reflected it in all its beauty around her.
    Fr Bradley concluded: "Danielle has left a legacy of love; may she reap a harvest of peace."

    Ms McLaughlin, who lived in Liverpool for a while as a student, was found dead in a secluded spot on Tuesday March 14.

    A post-mortem examination later showed she had been sexually assaulted before being killed by blows to the head.

    A 24-year-old man has been charged by Indian police who said he had confessed to the crime.

    Funeral of Goa murder victim Danielle McLaughlin hears she left a 'legacy of love' - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

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