Thread: Two lecturers shot dead at university in Bangkok

Originally Posted by wasabi

But these are educated Thais, I thought the norm was that it was only Somchais lowly educated cousin who behaved this way

The misguided wretch's credentials were allegedly being questioned by one of the victims...

Originally Posted by pseudolus

well it is sad for his family who were standing watching him blow his brains out. Have a bit of empathy for them at least - it wasn't their fault

I care about the families of the two guys who were killed. They could not possibly have thought that they were going to die in the university just doing their jobs. The killer was to blame for everything.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by wasabi

But these are educated Thais, I thought the norm was that it was only Somchais lowly educated cousin who behaved this way

The misguided wretch's credentials were allegedly being questioned by one of the victims...

Well that's a warning to all on here, questioning a teaching credential could be unwise.

Originally Posted by wasabi

Well that's a warning to all on here, questioning a teaching credential could be unwise.

More pointless than unwise. Clearly the employer was content to employ this killer and one would have been "pissing against the wind" to complain about it in Thailand.

I speak as one who knew a headmaster of a school who had no O-levels let alone a degree or any professional qualifications. Similarly, a biologist whose only qualification was to have visited a zoo once.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by pseudolus

well it is sad for his family who were standing watching him blow his brains out. Have a bit of empathy for them at least - it wasn't their fault

I care about the families of the two guys who were killed. They could not possibly have thought that they were going to die in the university just doing their jobs. The killer was to blame for everything.

neither did his mother and what looks like his wife or daughter wake up that day thinking they would see that guy bow his head off.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

neither did his mother and what looks like his wife or daughter wake up that day thinking they would see that guy bow his head off.

It can easily be argued that the killer's actions were , at least in part, the result of a poor upbringing in which he was not taught the difference between right and wrong. Should we all feel sorry for the parents of ISIS terrorists who are killed ? I think not. Sorry, Mummy, but you should have brought your kid up properly.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by pseudolus

well it is sad for his family who were standing watching him blow his brains out. Have a bit of empathy for them at least - it wasn't their fault

I care about the families of the two guys who were killed. They could not possibly have thought that they were going to die in the university just doing their jobs. The killer was to blame for everything.

neither did his mother and what looks like his wife or daughter wake up that day thinking they would see that guy bow his head off.

Yes, sad for the family that had to witness it, although it does look like the police really made an effort to talk him out of it and it might be better that they saw that.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by pseudolus

well it is sad for his family who were standing watching him blow his brains out. Have a bit of empathy for them at least - it wasn't their fault

I care about the families of the two guys who were killed. They could not possibly have thought that they were going to die in the university just doing their jobs. The killer was to blame for everything.

neither did his mother and what looks like his wife or daughter wake up that day thinking they would see that guy bow his head off.

Yes, sad for the family that had to witness it, although it does look like the police really made an effort to talk him out of it and it might be better that they saw that.

He'd still be alive if the Thai cops hadn't bothered with their efforts and instead cracked open a bottle of Sam song, and invited him over for a booze up. Can't imagine a Thai cop being much cop at talking him out of topping himself.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by pseudolus

well it is sad for his family who were standing watching him blow his brains out. Have a bit of empathy for them at least - it wasn't their fault

I care about the families of the two guys who were killed. They could not possibly have thought that they were going to die in the university just doing their jobs. The killer was to blame for everything.

neither did his mother and what looks like his wife or daughter wake up that day thinking they would see that guy bow his head off.

Yes, sad for the family that had to witness it, although it does look like the police really made an effort to talk him out of it and it might be better that they saw that.

He'd still be alive if the Thai cops hadn't bothered with their efforts and instead cracked open a bottle of Sam song, and invited him over for a booze up. Can't imagine a Thai cop being much cop at talking him out of topping himself.

No cop is going to get close to s suicidal murderer holding a gun. I tried to talk a 23 year old msn out of shooting himself in the head because his girlfriend hsd dumped him. Hsppened in a Catholic Church where he was praying snd bargining with God to give her bsck.

Didnt work, he did it.

Originally Posted by BobR

I tried to talk a 23 year old msn out of shooting himself in the head because his girlfriend hsd dumped him.

If I thought you were going to try to talk me out of doing something, especially given your weird taste in music, I might consider topping myself too. I am quite sure that you are not a member of The Samaritans, are you ?

Lecturer dies after shooting himself

The lecturer of Phra Nakhon Rajabhat University who shot dead his two colleagues on the campus on Wednesday committed suicide by shooting himself with the same pistol after more than five hours of standoff.

Dr Wanchai Danaitamonut was rushed to Paolo Memorial hospital by a waiting ambulance after he shot himself at a hotel in Sapan Kwai area where he had been hiding since the fatal shooting of his two colleagues on Wednesday. He was pronounced dead shortly after his arrival at the hospital.

Police, friends, relatives and students of the university tried desperately for more than five hours since 12.30 p.m. to talk Dr Wanchai into laying down his weapon and turning himself in to the police.

Dr Narongsak Boonyamarik, a close friend of the suspected killer, said that the police had tried their best to persuade Dr Wanchai to surrender but without success.

He said that during the lengthy negotiation Dr Wanchai was hesitant and was heard to have complaining “Unfair, can’t stand it.”

Dr Narongsak further said he received a text message sent from Dr Wanchai lamenting of the unfair treatment and threatening to kill himself.

Lecturer dies after shooting himself - Thai PBS English News

Rector admits two lecturers used to engage in a conflict almost a year ago

The rector of Phra Nakhon Rajabhat University Associate Professor Pong Horadan told Bangkhen police that Dr Wanchai Danaitamonut, the suspected gunman, and one of the two dead victims, Dr Pichai Chaisongkram, used to engage in a conflict almost a year ago.

He said he invited the two lecturers for talks to settle the conflict which stemmed from Dr Wanchai who produced documents about the educational background of Dr Pichai showing that the latter obtained his PhD from the Philippines in a way to imply that the PhD was not approved by the Office of the Higher Education Commission.

However, Professor Pong said he checked with the commission’s office and was told that the PhD from the Philippine university was recognized by the office.

Ever since that incident almost a year ago, he said he had not talked with the two men. He admitted that he didn’t know exactly the motive of the fatal shooting which took place on the campus on Wednesday.

As for the other victim, Dr Natthapol Chumvorathayee, director of technical promotion and registration office, the rector said Dr Natthapol was not involved in the previous conflict between the two lecturers. However, he said that the three lecturers were in the same panel tasked with revising the curriculum.

The rector disclosed that a panel had been formed to look into disciplinary action against Dr Wanchai.

Rector admits two lecturers used to engage in a conflict almost a year ago - Thai PBS English News

....his mother....

That be his ex-boss previously an acharn at the same uni.....

...and what looks like his wife or daughter...

That be his "favourite" student.....

He was single. Thai news kept playing that up as a possible reason believe it or not. No wife or children, never married was said so many times, must be lonely, blah blah blah. With the black dye in his hair and all coverage from the rear made him look younger.... A 60 year old Thai male with a big grudge.

His suicide note has been published. It's all to do with work conflicts. Sadly, anyone who has ever worked in a Rajabhat will recognize instantly the problems which made him go postal.

Don't tell me the canteen ran out of saparot again?

Sad, sad, bloody tale all around...Luck to you all on "Big Buddha Day"...

^^ No. You can read the letters yourself on Manager

Thai conflict resolution.

Cops defend handling of tutor suicide

Police have insisted they strictly followed negotiation practices in line with local police standards when attempting to cajole the suspected killer of two university lecturers into surrendering and who later turned the gun on himself.

The police were heavily criticised for their handling of the situation and for not having trained professionals negotiate with the distressed 60-year-old university lecturer, Wanchai Danaitamonut.

Thitirach Nonghanphitak, the Central Investigation Bureau chief, defended the police's decision not to use psychologists in the standoff, saying it was out of concern for their safety and since the suspected killer was well educated and may not have needed them....

Cops defend handling of tutor suicide | Bangkok Post: news

Thitirach Nonghanphitak, the Central Investigation Bureau chief, defended the police's decision not to use psychologists in the standoff, saying it was out of concern for their safety.....

So instead they used a young girl and an old lady who could've been taken as a hostage at anytime during the standoff. All the while the cowardly police were at a safe distance monitoring the situation.

All this while the POS was in "if you try to shoot me, I'll shoot myself" mode.

This one was better than a Mexican standoff, yes.