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    Gov't Considers Plan for Underground Power and Telecom Cables



    Bangkok Post
    June 17, 2015
    Writer: Komsan Tortermvasana

    The government has agreed in principle for TOT Plc and CAT Telecom to take charge of an underground piping plan for telecommunications, broadcasting and power wires.

    At least 10 billion baht will be needed to group all existing overhead power, telecoms and broadcast cables into a single platform below ground, said Takorn Tantasith, secretary-general of the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission.

    The money will come from the digital economy fund. The fund was set up to develop the country's telecom infrastructure and provide financial support to public and private firms that invest in infrastructure development and create innovative services.

    "Construction of underground piping facilities is needed soon to prevent a possible collapse of concrete power poles carrying an excessive weight of utility wires," said Mr Takorn. "The concrete poles can no longer support more cables."

    Mr Takorn discussed the matter with Deputy Prime Minister MR Pridiyathorn Devakula, reaching an initial resolution last week. This issue will be raised at a meeting of the national broadband committee on Friday next week for consideration.

    He said laying all lines underground would pave the way for the development of a digital economy, as more telecoms and broadcasting companies need to expand their network coverage. Furthermore, it will beautify the cities.

    "If moving the wires underground is approved by the national broadband committee, we expect the plan to take only one year," Mr Takorn said.

    He said telecoms and broadcasting companies as well as state electricity enterprises could rent the underground utility pipes directly from the government. Many of the companies pay rental fees to the Metropolitan Electricity Authority and the Provincial Electricity Authority to hang their cables along concrete power poles.

    Under Section 39 of the Frequency Allocation Act, telecom licensees have the right to negotiate with any company to lay their network lines. But the state electricity enterprises have denied requests from telecoms wanting to rent their poles to lay lines, saying their poles can no longer support the weight of new lines.

    Mr Takorn said MR Pridiyathorn will discuss the issue with the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, asking it to oversee the matter.

    Underground scheme for power cables | Bangkok Post: news

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    If ever there was an issue which exemplified the inability of the Thai to organise and plan it must be this madness of stringing all power and communication cables between poles throughout every avenue, byway and soi in their country.

    The conversion to underground cabling throughout the Kingdom is going to be the greatest engineering feat ever undertaken yet they say it will be achieved in a year.

    In Bangkok alone where pavements are a haphazard accident of road construction the cabling will have to be laid under the highways causing a monumental inconvenience to everyone.

    It's going to be a nightmare and a project which could have been avoided if they had only but adopted the practice utilised by countries elsewhere over 50 years ago.

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    will never happen

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    the fisrt thing to mandate is all new construction must include underground services corridors - water , sewerage , power , comms , gas ? etc with well thought out engineering specifications that will encompass any expansions and with logical distribution points that minimise the need to run extra cabling which end up causing the extra runs of cable that cause the massive bundles that are seen everywhere.

    this will not come about until all the faux technicians/engeneers are removed from their positions that allow them to approve the bortions that are seen everywhere.

    in short , this will never happen as the competence is not there in the descision making levels of the services companies

    underground cabling in ladder has different de rating than cabling run in air , and the more cable run together ( bundled ) has more effect on the safe amount of power allowed

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    Another pipe dream.

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    With all the flooding this can only end in disaster.

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    this will not come about until all the faux technicians/engeneers are removed from their positions that allow them to approve the bortions that are seen everywhere.


    underground cabling in ladder has different de rating than cabling run in air , and the more cable run together ( bundled ) has more effect on the safe amount of power allowed[/quote]
    correct, but it will be water cooled so no probs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    If ever there was an issue which exemplified the inability of the Thai to organise and plan it must be this madness of stringing all power and communication cables between poles throughout every avenue, byway and soi in their country. The conversion to underground cabling throughout the Kingdom is going to be the greatest engineering feat ever undertaken yet they say it will be achieved in a year. In Bangkok alone where pavements are a haphazard accident of road construction the cabling will have to be laid under the highways causing a monumental inconvenience to everyone. It's going to be a nightmare and a project which could have been avoided if they had only but adopted the practice utilised by countries elsewhere over 50 years ago.
    Nail on head. It will take more than a year just for the BKK metropolitan area.
    Can anyone name a country where fibre optic cables run anywhere but underground?

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    Sukhumvit Soi 24 around Emporium has already been transformed.

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    MEA to complete underground powerline project in March, to continue on Smart Metro project

    BANGKOK, 12 January 2018 (NNT) - The Metropolitan Electricity Authority (MEA) will complete the underground powerline project on Rama One and Ratchaprarop roads in March in order to establish safety and security of the power system.

    MEA Governor Assistant Wanchai Jiarawatthanawit said that the MEA has already put power lines and communication cables underground and removed pylons on Silom, Chitralada, Pathumwan, Phaholyothin, Phayathai and Sukhumvit roads under the Smart Metro project. The third phase of the project will include 39 routes covering a total of 127.3 kilometers.

    The underground powerline project on Rama 1 and Ratchaprarop roads is expected to be completed by March to establish safety and security of the power system, create beautiful landscape and to support the turning of Bangkok into an Asean metropolis, he said.

    He added that it is necessary for all parties concerned to finish the removal of communication cables and pylons.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand | MEA to complete underground powerline project in March, to continue on Smart Metro project

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    NBTC to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads

    BANGKOK, 20 January 2018 (NNT) – The National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) and telecom providers have planned to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads and put them underground by the end of this year.

    NBTC Secretary-General Takorn Tantasith said the agency is working with various telecommunications providers to relocate communications cables in central Bangkok areas and put them underground.

    The projects cover the road between Bangkok Commercial School and- Yommarat Intersection, Rama I road, Nana road, Ratchaprarop road, Sri Ayutthaya road, and Nonsi Project along Sathu Pradit road through Soi Sawang Arom.

    The relocation of cables will improve Bangkok's urban landscape as well as improve the telecommunications quality as underground cables are subject to less interference with the environment.

    Since 2016, the NBTC has carried out relocation projects on many roads in Bangkok, and planned to expand the project to the outer Bangkok after those in the inner area have been completed.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand | NBTC to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads

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    NBTC to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads

    BANGKOK, 20 January 2018 (NNT) The National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) and telecom providers have planned to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads and put them underground by the end of this year.

    NBTC Secretary-General Takorn Tantasith said the agency is working with various telecommunications providers to relocate communications cables in central Bangkok areas and put them underground.

    The projects cover the road between Bangkok Commercial School and- Yommarat Intersection, Rama I road, Nana road, Ratchaprarop road, Sri Ayutthaya road, and Nonsi Project along Sathu Pradit road through Soi Sawang Arom.

    The relocation of cables will improve Bangkok's urban landscape as well as improve the telecommunications quality as underground cables are subject to less interference with the environment.

    Since 2016, the NBTC has carried out relocation projects on many roads in Bangkok, and planned to expand the project to the outer Bangkok after those in the inner area have been completed.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand | NBTC to remove all telecom cables from central Bangkok roads

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