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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    But where does the water go after generating electricity with it?? It can't just disappear!

    After it has gone through the turbines excess power is used to pump a good proportion into arid areas of China for agriculture.

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    ^ So the Chinese use for agriculture.Thought so.

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    Here is more proof that China really is the root of all evil.

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    ^I always thought it was "the love of China is the root of all evil"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobs00
    Here is more proof that China really is the root of all evil.
    China or the Chinese government? America or the American government? Make yer mind up.

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    Dambusters - the sequel.

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    This is worth a look on the subject...

    Sharing the fruits of the Mekong

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    The Ugly American is an apt, if hurtful, title of a book published in 1958, and which became a runaway best-seller for its slashing expose of US arrogance, incompetence, and corruption in Southeast Asia. Is a similar writing relating to China in the offing?

    Have a copy of 'The Ugly Chinaman" was published a few years ago !



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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen View Post
    But where does the water go after generating electricity with it?? It can't just disappear!
    ...it goes to China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The prime minister said he was more worried about the cultivation of off-season rice in the central part of Thailand.
    China isn't helping but Abhist has a good point.

    Modern Agricultural methods which include multiple crops use incredible amounts of water and are decimating many areas of the world. Reckon more food has to be produced but at what cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    have no doubt the next global conflict will be about water
    Nations all over the world are damming rivers running though their country. In many cases leaving less than a trickle downstream. If this is to stop, it's going to take a lot of cooperation between nations or we will be looking at
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    The UN could edict who gets what but likely to be just another ineffective UN body everyone ignores.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    I guess being an island has some advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    I guess being an island has some advantages.
    ^ not with global warming EN



    When I lived in China, in 2005, every rivers were dry, with just a few puddles left here and there. They don't have enough now for their industrial use

    (pictures not from me) - the pollution covers the whole surface of that lake, so algae develop underneath, eating up all oxygen and killing all life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    I guess being an island has some advantages.
    Not too sure about that .
    I think it was Anuirin Bevan the Labour politico, after WWII, asked the government
    "How is it that England is an island of coal surrounded by an ocean full of fish, but we still have power shortage and food rationing !!! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The irrigation division asked the government for 632 million kip (about 748,000 dollars) to dig channels through the exposed riverbed to allow water to flow to the pumping stations
    I presume that this is what they are trying to do. Photo taken about 4 weeks ago



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    That is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    have no doubt the next global conflict will be about water .
    I believe such struggles are being planned as we speak....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happyman
    "How is it that England is an island of coal surrounded by an ocean full of fish, but we still have power shortage and food rationing !!! "
    Sun comes out for a few days in July and there's water rationing too.

    The state of the 'Mighty' Mekong is a disgrace, but who's going to debate it with China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The irrigation division asked the government for 632 million kip (about 748,000 dollars) to dig channels through the exposed riverbed to allow water to flow to the pumping stations
    I presume that this is what they are trying to do. Photo taken about 4 weeks ago


    That is the new highway in Vientiane, right ? These fucvkers have found nothing better than building it *inside the river bed ! It will connect somewhere after BPN bar. Between the highway and the ex-riverfront, there will be a park, which by no means will be decent, I know very well this guys possibilities when it comes to design, especially with plants. Lucky if they don't plant the trees upside-down.


    It's very sad to see that 'development' comes with a score of sores, that could be easily avoided if the west was bringing its experience.

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    Mekong River runs dry; cargo ships grounded for 10 days



    CHIANG RAI, Feb 25 (TNA) – Thailand's exports via Chiang Sean district in this northernmost province have been affected by a severe drought affecting the Mekong River, the 12th-longest river in the world and the 7th-longest in Asia.

    According to Winai Chintongprasert, head of the Chiang Saen customhouse, the river, which forms the border of Thailand with Laos and Cambodia, and Laos with China, has run completely dry, with a very long line of sand dune islands in the middle of the river, forcing freighters from Thailand’s Chiang Saen Port to China’s Guanlei Port in Yunnan province and vice versa to have halted their runs for over 10 days.

    Thai cargoes valued at more than Bt150 million are stranded aboard ships. The cargoes included palm oil, energy drinks and dehydrated longan.

    The water level in Mekong River has fallen since the end of December and continued to decrease dramatically during February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu
    That is the new highway in Vientiane, right ?
    Not as far as I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu
    Between the highway and the ex-riverfront, there will be a park, which by no means will be decent, I know very well this guys possibilities when it comes to design
    Have you got any links to this highway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    All asked not to blame China for drying Mekong
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    BANGKOK, 24 February 2010 (NNT) – Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has called on all sides not to jump to the conclusion that China has caused the Mekong river to dry, saying that the government is closely monitoring the drought situation.

    Speaking after the Cabinet meeting on Tuesday, the prime minister said the government was dealing with problems concerning water shortages, drought, and other disasters with Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Theera Wongsamut keeping him updated on the overall situation.

    Deputy Prime Minister Major General Sanan Kajornprasart has been tasked with overseeing the problems since the beginning of this year, together with the agriculture and cooperatives minister.

    The prime minister said he was more worried about the cultivation of off-season rice in the central part of Thailand.

    The second rice is much of concern during drought since it needs adequate water supply amid water shortage.

    China has been blamed for the current water level reduction of Mekong river in Thailand and Laos because it has blocked water in the river for electricity generation. Thai MPs and senators have cried foul over the matter and called for the government to talk with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propagator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu
    That is the new highway in Vientiane, right ?
    Not as far as I know.
    Well, where is it then ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Propagator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu
    Between the highway and the ex-riverfront, there will be a park, which by no means will be decent, I know very well this guys possibilities when it comes to design
    Have you got any links to this highway?
    No links : just contacts in Vientiane urban planning department, and took a few pictures these past few months. Can't find them now, prolly on a back-up hard drive.

    There was a sign on the river bank, with a map of the project, where all these nice restaurants used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu
    Well, where is it then ?
    Your guess is as good as mine

    It appeared to me that they were trying to dredge a channel close to the river bank on the Vientiane side, so as to get a flow of water near the bank, loads of lorries were taking sand/silt away

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    ^ that's the thing I'm talking about

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