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    Robotic tasting machine tests thai food for authenticity

    70k of stupidity - Yingluk fanbois should remember she was the "prime minister" of this country

    Robotic tasting machine dubbed 'electronic tongue' to rate Thai food across the world for authenticity

    A robotic tasting machine dubbed the "electronic tongue" will test Thai food across the world for authenticity after the country's former prime minister was appalled by attempts to replicate traditional recipes abroad.
    According to some in Bangkok, authentic cooking methods are being butchered by ignorant chefs overseas with replicated recipes missing key ingredients, particularly chilli.
    The machine, designed to rectify these recipe mistakes, was ordered by the country's former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra.
    Former government adviser Supachai Lorlowhakarn said Ms Shinawatra noticed the Thai food was not up to the local standard.

    "She did not say that she did not like (foreign Thai food), but it's not up to the Thai standard. It looked like the Thai food but when you taste the food, it's not the Thai food," he said.
    The outcome is a robotic tasting machine that can sample Thai food and rate it according to its authenticity.
    Too much sugar is a fail and not enough spice is a crime against Thai food.
    For Dr Krit Chongsrid, one of the inventors of the "electronic tongue", the aim is to improve Thai food standards around the world.
    "The tasting machine that we built is based on the human sensation (which) means when we taste the food we taste with our tongue and our nose," he said.
    When asked what rating the machine would give a dish made using a non-traditional ingredient, Dr Chongsrid said: "Maybe it (would) just fall down to two or one and half star or something like that."
    Inventors argue Vietnamese, Burmese and Westerners are cooking Thai food and have no idea what they are doing.
    The machine costs about $70,000.

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    Hub of unbelievable...

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    The "electronic tongue". A new use for the GT 200.

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    Who is going to import, buy and use the machine? I can't see many foreign restaurants paying 70,000 dollars for the privilege of testing their own food. Perhaps a free sticker from the Ministry of Thai Foods Abroad and The Foreign Restaurants Testing Agency will persuade them it's worth the investment. Or maybe not.

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    So I would believe that the machine firstly measures the amount of fecal matter present in the food; can not be Thai food unless the chef has shat and wiped his butt with his bare hand before going back to the kitchen. It will also test it for bacteria related to non refrigeration and other poor hygiene levels as well. Next part of the test will check the temperature of the food. Thai food needs to at all times be between 30-65 degrees Celius to allow maximum growth of bacteria. It will measure the purity of the oil, and anything that might be consider adequate for at a minimum putting in a tuk tuk will be classed as too good to be THai food.

    However, rather than spending all this money to basically worship yingluck, how about chucking her in jail with a bag of rotten rice and tell her to stop bloody complaining! Touring the world and grumbling about the Thai Food not tasting right? Don't be so bloody insular and eat something else you daft tart. Thai food is bloody boring.

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    lets hope it picks up all the chemicals were fed.

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    there's no such thing as "Thai food", it's either Malay, Lao, Khmer, Vietnamese, Chinese, or Burmese.

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    Would of thought it would be MON considering they were supposed to be the earliest settlers.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Would of thought it would be MON considering they were supposed to be the earliest settlers.?
    There were people before the Mon; and in more areas than the Mon.
    Even before these lot:
    Mani people : Ethnic ‘negrito’ tribe of Thailand
    Abos and Papuans passed through

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    I did know about them, though never came across a website about them, thanks for the link looks of interest.

    So what it be right in saying all originate from China.?

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    No... and it depends what you mean by China, because it's changed size and shape quite a bit over the years and during different phases; and for some ethnic groups its a transition zone (like the Vietnamese).

    If you think about it from a haplogroup/linguistics POV... Australians had to have passed through first... then Papuans... those Negritos who also live on the Andaman islands were probably in India before the Mon-Khmer/Austro-Asiatics, and maybe linked to ancient Elamites. Negritos probably a spin off from Abos and Papuan ancestors - amongst the first people to ever walk through India tens of thousands of years ago.

    Malayo-Polynesians (Melanesians, Micronesians, Polynesians, Chams) more recently next (just a few thousands years ago), but from the north - Taiwan and Southern China.
    The Austro-Asiatics were in India first and moved across to populate Cambodia etc... except the Viets that took a more circuitous route.
    Hmong-Miean/Miao-Yao must have been in southern China before the ancient Thais but after the Austronesians (aboriginal Taiwanese and Chams).

    Sino-Tibetan is linked to Tai-Kadai, but they must have gradually moved south through the Hmong-Mien peoples, with Thais separating first quite a few thousand years back, and Burmese type people later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    there's no such thing as "Thai food", it's either Malay, Lao, Khmer, Vietnamese, Chinese, or Burmese.
    Indeed.
    A fusion cuisine that that Thais have called their own.

    It is what it is.

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    ^ Especially as none of their beloved "Thai" ingredients are native to Asia.
    I wonder what they ate 400 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    ^ Especially as none of their beloved "Thai" ingredients are native to Asia.
    I wonder what they ate 400 years ago.
    Of the contrary, most ingredients of native cuisines have their origins in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    ^ Especially as none of their beloved "Thai" ingredients are native to Asia.
    I wonder what they ate 400 years ago.
    Of the contrary, most ingredients of native cuisines have their origins in Asia.

    Let's start with the big one Jeff, the killer, quintessential Thai ingredient that Thai's are so amazed Farangs can eat.

    Chilli...comes from?



    And how would Thais munch down on their somtam without Papaya..........which comes from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Of the contrary, most ingredients of native cuisines have their origins in Asia.
    Chili, capsicum (bell peppers), pumpkin, potato, tomato, maize, pineapple, papaya, all of them frequently found in Thai cooking, are from the Americas. The chili was introduced to the Siamese by the Portuguese in the 1500's. Cuisine purity is as absurd a notion as racial purity. People mix things.

    What was Thai cuisine like before the European exploitation and exportation of the New World's larder? Radically different, I would say.

    It just puzzles me why you can't get cheap avocados here.
    Last edited by tomta; 03-10-2014 at 11:05 PM.

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    The problem in authenticity arises within the EU when they discovered that many leaf products, including kaprow, from Thailand were found to contain quantities of prohibited fertilisers and were subsequently banned.

    As in most things relating to Thailand the problems emanate from the Thais themselves.

    Bear this in mind when you next tuck into your authentic Thai meal in Bangkok or wherever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomta View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Of the contrary, most ingredients of native cuisines have their origins in Asia.
    Chili, capsicum (bell peppers), pumpkin, potato, tomato, maize, pineapple, papaya, all of them frequently found in Thai cooking, are from the Americas. The chili was introduced to the Siamese by the Portuguese in the 1500's.
    Right.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomta View Post
    Cuisine purity is as absurd a notion as racial purity.
    Wrong... but let's not digress...
    Quote Originally Posted by tomta View Post
    People mix things.
    ...up, like left-wing arguments, for instance. [whoops, I digressed.].
    Quote Originally Posted by tomta View Post
    What was Thai cuisine like before the European exploitation and exportation of the New World's larder?
    Largely Cambodian (or Austro-Asiatic if you want to be pedantic - the rib is of Katuic extraction, which isn't Khmeric, but its related, but I digress... again...) I would have thought... like most of the people.

    History of Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That period when the first Europeans started to arrive... Marco Polo - the original backpacker/TEFLER making it to Burma... is when The Thais and Viets started to compress the Chams, Khmers, and Mons into their little corners of subsistence existence.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomta View Post
    Radically different, I would say.

    It just puzzles me why you can't get cheap avocados here.
    They're probably considered a form of weed.

    ...but not in Cheech and Chong sense.



    Ironically for "Thaimeme", Thai food, is a meme - a good marketing construct... spice without the price (unlike Indian, which makes you gradually look and smell like an Indian).

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