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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
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    RIP to both. Smacks of drug and or alcohol fuelled attack. Bastard bloody cowardice.
    i would think the two were "getting it on", and somebody (or somebodies) saw and "interrupted"..(sorry, can't think of a better word).
    As the day progressed it did dawn on me that could be a likely, feasible and probable scenario.
    Desperately sad still though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
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    Just watched the midday news and it seems the police have apprehended one local Thai islander in possession of a handgun but so far he ain't admitting anything.

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    I thought the kids were killed with a garden hoe, not shot with a handgun. I mean, if he had a handgun, wouldn't that be the logical implement of death, rather than a hoe, watering can, or secateurs.

    A friend from school plus his girlfriend were beaten to death with shovels by Nepali workers while backpacking around Europe. His killers got off due to some legal error.
    He's obviously been apprehended with a handgun because he has a criminal record.

    Not unusual for the police to look at known criminals first, is it?

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    THAI police have detained three migrant labourers from the neighbouring country of Mynmar in connection with the brutal murders of British backpackers on the holiday island of Koh Tao in the early hours of Monday morning.

    The trio were detained after the country’s Prime Minister ordered a manhunt for the culprit(s).
    The pair’s nearly naked bodies were found on a beach on a scenic island in southern Thailand, home to one of the country’s most popular diving destinations.
    The victims, a 23-year-old woman from Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, and a 24-year-old man from Jersey, Channel Islands have been identified as Hannah Witheridge and David Miller.



    Police Major General Keardtipong Kawsumarng told media that the pair had arrived on the island on Friday, September 12, after attending the full moon party on the nearby island of Koh Phangan on September 9.
    At the time, they didn’t know each other but checked into the budget Ocean View Bungalows near the island’s main beach Sai Ree, where their bodies were found.
    On the night they were killed they went out with each other to a local club and about midnight they left for a stroll on the beach, Keardtipong said.
    After checking CCTV footage, he said police identified a topless, man of Asian complexion wearing shorts, whom they described as appearing “suspicious looking” in the same vicinity as the murdered tourists.
    The bodies are being kept at the Police Hospital for forensic examination.
    It has emerged that another British man who was thought to have been with the couple before they died — and at one stage appeared to be a suspect — did not flee to Bangkok and has already been interviewed by police who have said they wish to interview him again.

    British tourists bludgeoned to death on Thailand beach

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    ^What crap. Three Burmese have been detained. Why? What evidence ties them to the crime? Other than the Prime Minister saying "You fuckers better arrest some non-Thai, and fast".

    British backpacker who "fled" never left? Well done assholes.

    So, what they meant to say was, "No progress". "No info". "Not a fucking clue, mate".

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    Davis come on the new PM is a man of integrity..

    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^What crap. Three Burmese have been detained. Why? What evidence ties them to the crime? Other than the Prime Minister saying "You fuckers better arrest some non-Thai, and fast".

    British backpacker who "fled" never left? Well done assholes.

    So, what they meant to say was, "No progress". "No info". "Not a fucking clue, mate".

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    ^Oh....

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    Burmese / Cambodian fishermen are the 'patsy' of choice for useless Thai cops. Seems the Thai captains of trawlers and fishing boats get them on amphetamines for the work, then dob them in to the cops as druggies to avoid paying them.

    They can then be 'fitted up' for heinous crimes against tourists in any beach resort around this country. Poor sods.

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    Well, I rather think the Thai police are a reasonable metaphor for their country: disorganised, incoherent, bombastic, stupid and unconcerned by anything so inconvenient as truth or justice.

    Bit still, they do get their man sometimes but not without first spearing a few red herrings along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    Its big news in England, third item on BBC R4 news
    why ?

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    Not because she's blonde and attractive, unless the radio works differently now to when I was a kid.

    Maybe because not far short of a million Britons travel to Thailand each year?

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    One senior officer told the BBC he did not believe a Thai person could have committed such a crime.
    The police say they are focussing their investigation on Burmese migrant workers on the island.


    BBC News - Thailand deaths: Police have 'number of suspects'

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Well, I rather think the Thai police are a reasonable metaphor for their country: disorganised, incoherent, bombastic, stupid and unconcerned by anything so inconvenient as truth or justice.
    You forgot "incompetent".

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    I have found this forum after looking for information. Is there any chance that these police will catch the killers?

    Even the BBC are calling them "not open minded" by immediately discounting any Thai national from their investigation in the belief that a Thai could not do this and only foreigners are capable. I call it racist.

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    On tv they are reporting that an iphone belonging to a victim and a blood soaked pair of jeans have been found in a suspects hut...

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    They are lining up all of the Burmese to question them. Racial profiling?

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    Citing Rotheram is idiotic in this context since indigenous crime e.g. the thousands of rapes perpetrated by Thai on Thai annually, is not part of my thesis nor is it germane to the incident under current debate. Although one has to acknowledge that the crime rate here is certainly indicative of the Thai propensity for violence in the arrangement of their personal affairs.
    Citing Rotherham is germane in that it is indicative of the attitudes of Asian males to women.


    Do they have the knowledge, abilities and facilities to perform DNA matching techniques on Koh Tao. That would quite swiftly and easily determine if any of the suspects are guilty.

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    ^^Do you know anything at all about Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post


    Do they have the knowledge, abilities and facilities to perform DNA matching techniques on Koh Tao. That would quite swiftly and easily determine if any of the suspects are guilty.
    You MUST be joking....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
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    The number of farang tourists raped, raped and murdered or just plain murdered in Thailand over the past 15 years exceeds, by far and away, the number of tourists attacked in such a manner in say, France, Britain, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Canada etc, etc.

    Factor into the death equation the numbers killed in road accidents, poisoning, electrocution and bizarre infections then Thailand must be way ahead of the pack in terms of danger.
    But you've just listed all developed, Western countries and compared them to a developing Asian one.

    How is it you aren't capable of understanding that a developing country won't be anything like a Western developed one?

    Do you sometimes eat an apple and then point out that it doesn't taste anything like an orange?
    Err, the comparison that what occurs in Thailand occurs elsewhere in the world was made by others, not me. I'm glad you agree with me. Or are you saying that Thailand is a safe place but only if one discounts the horrors of a third world country populated by savages?
    And they were right it does occur elsewhere. Perhaps not quite as much as it does in Thailand but then I just gave you the obvious, logical explanation for that. A developing country with a less educated populace with huge numbers of people living in abject poverty, will more often than not have a higher crime rate than a developed Western country. What part of that simple logical fact confuses you so greatly on a daily basis?

    Not to mention that crime figures can be highly misleading. As a tourist I would guess you are far more likely to be a victim of crime in say Florida than you are BKK. Several US cities are high up the list for murder rates, all of them far higher than an Thai city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^^Do you know anything at all about Thailand?
    Not much but I am learning fast! I am here for info on this case. It is personal to me.

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    ^Lesson One: Thai are good. Never do bad thing.

    Lesson Two: Any Burmese slave on a Thai fishing boat who is nearby is GUILTY, just to make sure all Thai are innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post

    Do they have the knowledge, abilities and facilities to perform DNA matching techniques on Koh Tao. That would quite swiftly and easily determine if any of the suspects are guilty.
    Presuming there was a rape. I think it hasn't been confirmed.

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    BBC reporter calling the police "not open minded"


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    ^Lesson 3: Do or say ANYTHING to protect the almighty tourist dollar.

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    The rush to condemn the BIB every time a Burmese or Cambodian migrant worker is arrested always puzzles me. The fact is that sometimes the perps are indeed Burmese or Cambodian.....but there is always this same response before any details have been released.

    About 6 years ago a neighbor of mine was robbed and nearly killed by a gang of Burmese construction workers while he was walking home one evening. The BIB arrested several of the cnuts a day later and it was announced in the local forum, only to bring out a torrent of comments about how the BIB are always picking on these folks and missing the real perps....who apparently always have to be Thai....

    Some of those migrant construction crews are harsh bastards... and when they get drinking or doped up, they can be downright fucking dangerous for anyone who happens by, and looks like they might be have a wallet with a bit of cash in it.....
    Pretty tempting for guys who get paid 150 baht a day for a 12 hour shift....and treated like shit.
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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