Thread: Coup 2014 !!!! : Military 'takes control' in Thailand

Im not here on a marriage visa, so I have never been through that process, but my understanding is that you have to prove you are living together.

When my wife went to extend her visa in the UK, we were questioned separately by immigration officials about our married life together and told we may be visited at home by officials. We were questioned on our favourite foods, tv shows, how we spent our time together etc. Intrusive? Maybe, but they need to verify the authenticity of the claim.

Its the same in Thailand.

I like the UK solution better, but there is a lot more that the Thais do to cause frustration. It is only common sense, but there is the rub. It is also left to interpretation of the immigration office. I am the first to abide by the immigration regulations, but why make it so difficult? Stupid question, I know.

Do you ever get stopped by road blocks in town because the police do not patrol?

Have you ever paid a traffic fine for something you did not do.

Have you ever been asked for another document that is not on any regulation list?

On and on and on Tax. You get the picture, or maybe you don't.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Still kow towing, by any other name. Would you have the brass to stand up to that personal intrusion of your privacy that no other civilized country I know of requires for visa purposes? Fortunately for me, not being married to a Thai I never had to, but I'd be pretty pissed off and offended if I did.

Many western countries require similar pictorial evidence for a visa for a Thai wife/fiancee to prove it is bona fide.

These requirements come in because of the number of farangs cheating previously.

And what western countries are those? You can not say the US because they use interviews and the laws are pretty strict about what kind of questions can be asked.

I do get the picture, and also find immigration a frustrating department to deal with as they are always moving the goalposts.

But now I phone them up a day before any visit and confirm exactly what they require and make sure I am seen by that person. I am lucky in that Hua Hin is a smallish office and the service there is pretty good once your face is known.

It is probably very different in Bangkok or Pattaya.

Originally Posted by taxexile

I do get the picture, and also find immigration a frustrating department to deal with as they are always moving the goalposts.

But now I phone them up a day before any visit and confirm exactly what they require and make sure I am seen by that person. I am lucky in that Hua Hin is a smallish office and the service there is pretty good once your face is known.

It is probably very different in Bangkok or Pattaya.

Good idea Tax. I will try that the next visit to my local immigration office. You just need to make sure that person is working the next day.

Originally Posted by Evilbaz

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Still kow towing, by any other name. Would you have the brass to stand up to that personal intrusion of your privacy that no other civilized country I know of requires for visa purposes? Fortunately for me, not being married to a Thai I never had to, but I'd be pretty pissed off and offended if I did.

Many western countries require similar pictorial evidence for a visa for a Thai wife/fiancee to prove it is bona fide.

These requirements come in because of the number of farangs cheating previously.

See above...

Originally Posted by Evilbaz

Many western countries require similar pictorial evidence for a visa for a Thai wife/fiancee to prove it is bona fide. These requirements come in because of the number of farangs cheating previously.

What about when it's the other way around, farang lady married to a Thai man? She/he doesn't have to show money and all the other shit that applies to a farang male. No sexual equality in LoS.

One up side has got to be the lack of campaigning trucks with loud speakers, I can relate to that and I don't even live there anymore.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Im not here on a marriage visa, so I have never been through that process, but my understanding is that you have to prove you are living together.

When my wife went to extend her visa in the UK, we were questioned separately by immigration officials about our married life together and told we may be visited at home by officials. We were questioned on our favourite foods, tv shows, how we spent our time together etc. Intrusive? Maybe, but they need to verify the authenticity of the claim.

Its the same in Thailand.

Truly, not all together the same. One needs to experience the variety of differences before posting about items you know nothing of.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Still kow towing, by any other name. Would you have the brass to stand up to that personal intrusion of your privacy that no other civilized country I know of requires for visa purposes? Fortunately for me, not being married to a Thai I never had to, but I'd be pretty pissed off and offended if I did.

Plainly, you have no knowledge of how immigration policies work elsewhere, otherwise you would not have written such drivel.

In order to qualify for a settlement visa in the Uk, and most other western countries for that matter, one is required to demonstrate one's financial worth and that the relationship is a genuine one. This involves the production of financial records over 6 months and personal correspondence of an intimate nature including deeply personal photographic memorabilia and billet doux.

The intrusion into one's privacy is extensive and brooks no demur. In no uncertain terms, one is required to bare one's life in toto.

At least in Thailand, the costs to do so are not exhorbitant as they are in the UK, for example.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Im not here on a marriage visa, so I have never been through that process, but my understanding is that you have to prove you are living together.

When my wife went to extend her visa in the UK, we were questioned separately by immigration officials about our married life together and told we may be visited at home by officials. We were questioned on our favourite foods, tv shows, how we spent our time together etc. Intrusive? Maybe, but they need to verify the authenticity of the claim.


Its the same in Thailand.

Good Lord Tax, they haven't done that for years in Blighty. All extensions of leave to remain are by paper only. No interviews, no home visits. Just stump up the £900 and bury them in paper.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

He still hasn't paid most of them their promised bonuses from the Chinese new year holiday and has only paid half to upper management like my missus.

So he just takes full advantage and they suffer in silence

And why can he continue to do this ?

The reason is there is no Union to protect the workers so here we have a filthy rich capitalist wanker exploiting his workers.

Thank fuk for the Union movement or the vast majority of workers would be working under wankers like this such as we see in 3 RD world countries.

Originally Posted by thegent

In order to qualify for a settlement visa in the Uk, and most other western countries for that matter, one is required to demonstrate one's financial worth and that the relationship is a genuine one.

This involves the production of financial records over 6 months and personal correspondence of an intimate nature including deeply personal photographic memorabilia and billet doux.

The intrusion into one's privacy is extensive and brooks no demur. In no uncertain terms, one is required to bare one's life in toto.

The Gent is spot on with this one, the same happens in Australia. To try and arrive legally is not easy.

Must be able to tell Immigration what time your lady friend has a shit and what color it will be on a Wednesday.

The only way to circumvent the system was to arrive on a boat from Malaysia or Indonesia .

Tony sorted that out though.

Originally Posted by ericson2u

Unions are threat to the Thai nation.

Of course they are hence we see millions of people working for absolutely fuk all.

Human rights are at the bottom of the barrel and rich fukers rule supreme.

On the other hand if it was like the West the vast majority of Farang would not be here.

The Mongerers certainly would not as the whores would be way too expensive.

^stop it, you're making my sides hurt

Originally Posted by ericson2u

......sicsince its democratic inception.

Democratic inception.
I do trust that you realize that the 1932 happenings had nothing whatsoever to do with the formation of any such democratic institutions and relationship, as it has been promoted to be.

To be frank, the modern state has yet to experience an overall true form of a progressive free/open democratic manner.

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by taxexile

Im not here on a marriage visa, so I have never been through that process, but my understanding is that you have to prove you are living together.

When my wife went to extend her visa in the UK, we were questioned separately by immigration officials about our married life together and told we may be visited at home by officials. We were questioned on our favourite foods, tv shows, how we spent our time together etc. Intrusive? Maybe, but they need to verify the authenticity of the claim.


Its the same in Thailand.

Good Lord Tax, they haven't done that for years in Blighty. All extensions of leave to remain are by paper only. No interviews, no home visits. Just stump up the £900 and bury them in paper.

It was 1994 or 95, didnt cost a penny.

Had to go and queue for half a day along with hundreds of plastic bag carrying asylum seekers at Lunar House in Croydon, I was interviewed by a Paki, and my wife by an Aussie. Not too much in the way of paperwork either, just some guarantees from the Thai embassy in London, who were terrible to deal with and our UK marriage license. Lunar House was a dismal experience , it was a run down gloomy shithole, but they were polite and respectful and gave her a five year extension, after which she got citizenship and a British passport.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

He still hasn't paid most of them their promised bonuses from the Chinese new year holiday and has only paid half to upper management like my missus.

So he just takes full advantage and they suffer in silence

And why can he continue to do this ?

The reason is there is no Union to protect the workers so here we have a filthy rich capitalist wanker exploiting his workers.

Thank fuk for the Union movement or the vast majority of workers would be working under wankers like this such as we see in 3 RD world countries.

Agreed I've suggested on several occasions that if nothing else they threaten to begin one and bring in some union reps to have company wide meeting & scare the crap out of them and get their attention.

Originally Posted by ericson2u

Another fanatic at it in the UK this time with a 'gun'. I won't post the story for this one. You can google prachatai for the story. It all encouraged by the fanatics in power right now in Thailand.

Yes that's two thai fascists threatening and harassing a British citizen in a few days.

This latest thai fascist went in with a gun .

The gun brandishing thai fascist was quick to take the video down from his FB page, but not quick enough, and the bad news for both these thai fascists is that the Metropolitan Police are now on their case.

The arrogance of these two " tools of Prayuth" is astonishing.

Works at a thai restaurant in Putney....

The good news is no harm done to their brave , non kow-towing, intended victim.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Anybody paying a bribe, whether it is 200b to placate a traffic policeman, 2000b to faciltate a visa extension due to a lack of supporting documents, or 200,000b to reduce an income tax bill is

It can be 300b for expensive SUV owners now. It it morally wrong to pay that, but there you are, you want to go to police station next day when you are happily driving in Rayong enjoying lovely beaches going home next day. And it is all my fault speeding on nice Thai motorways. Bribes are a problem in Thailand. But bribing visa extensions or VAT or income tax, that is a bit different thing... never done that (my conscience clear), so I don't know.