Thread: Phuket mob surrounds British expat who hit motorcyclist

Originally Posted by BigRed

an International licence has no meaning in the UK. A standard Thai licence is all that is required.

Correct 'BigRed'.

Originally Posted by wasabi

An International licence is for one year only in the U.K I do know a Thai lady who has been driving in the U.K for over 10 years on an International. She just gets it renewed in Thailand annually.

She will not be able to take out motor insurance.

Was the Falang brethalysed? If so, and he was over then all else is irrelevant

Originally Posted by Finney64

Was the Falang brethalysed? If so, and he was over then all else is irrelevant

Quite so, As He's been charged with drunken driving one must assume he has been "bagged" ,of course we all know that should the test be positive he's toast,however all we know for sure is that he's been charged and thats about it really

Originally Posted by DrAndy

but that is meaningless anyway

if he was drunk or decided to drive away, the distance has no connection to his speed

Of course it does. This chart shows you he was not exceeding 60 kmh



30 metres is only around 8 car lengths

I don't think we will know the truth about this accident until TD's Senior Accident Investigator (aka socal) has stopped by to tell us what he saw, and that the main problem was that neither the falang nor the Thai guy were driving fast enough.

Originally Posted by benbaaa

I don't think we will know the truth about this accident until TD's Senior Accident Investigator (aka socal) has stopped by to tell us what he saw, and that the main problem was that neither the falang nor the Thai guy were driving fast enough.

Nice one!, but I would have thought as far as Socal is concerned that if the farang is a socialist , that is enough evidence to convict him of anything

Originally Posted by piwanoi

no one on this forum is aware of the true facts of this accident yet appear to stand in judgement

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And of Course the kid was charged with riding without a helmet or Licence !

How is that any different from exactly what you are doing.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

no one on this forum is aware of the true facts of this accident yet appear to stand in judgement

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And of Course the kid was charged with riding without a helmet or Licence !

How is that any different from exactly what you are doing.

Just following the simple law of averages of young Thai Motorcyclists ,plus the total inability of the Thai police to do their job fairly when a farang is involved in an accident with a Thai!

Screw them, another falang that thinks he owns this place, and another stupid Thai that thinks he don't need a helmet and can turn right and left wherever he wants,

I don't see why the helmet has been mentioned a few times. He broke his bloody leg.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

plus the total inability of the Thai police to do their job fairly when a farang is involved in an accident with a Thai!

Really? I think that is a myth personally, one of those things that is always stated as a fact but not always born out by reality. I've little doubt that it has and does occur but certainly not as a matter of course.

In my time driving here I've personally been involved in a couple of minor traffic accidents, one my fault the other not, as well as knowing plenty of other farang who have too (right up to and including fatal accidents most unfortunately). In not one instance was myself or anyone else subjected to unfair treatment or held accountable for accidents that weren't their fault (except in the instances where they were, obviously).

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I don't see why the helmet has been mentioned a few times. He broke his bloody leg.

Riding without a helmet is Illegal ,whilst its quite legal to ride a motorcycle without wearing cricketers leg guards

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

plus the total inability of the Thai police to do their job fairly when a farang is involved in an accident with a Thai!

Really? I think that is a myth personally, one of those things that is always stated as a fact but not always born out by reality. I've little doubt that it has and does occur but certainly not as a matter of course.

In my time driving here I've personally been involved in a couple of minor traffic accidents, one my fault the other not, as well as knowing plenty of other farang who have too (right up to and including fatal accidents most unfortunately). In not one instance was myself or anyone else subjected to unfair treatment or held accountable for accidents that weren't their fault (except in the instances where they were, obviously).

So its your belief then that the Thai Police and Courts administer "justice" in equal portions to rich and poor Thai alike ,do you really believe a poor farang backpacker would be treated equally within the "law" if he had an Accident through no fault of his own with the pissed up Son of a"very important" Thai?

he should have fled the scene, like everyone else here

Originally Posted by piwanoi

So its your belief then that the Thai Police and Courts administer "justice" in equal portions to rich and poor Thai alike

That's not my belief at all, I never even said anything remotely close to that.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

he should have fled the scene, like everyone else here

The angry mob and the bike under his wheel may have impeded that somewhat

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I thought you wrote my take on the "Justice" system here was a Myth

Oh, nope not at all. Plenty of instances to show how power/money/connections here equates to a different kind of 'justice'.

I was referring specifically to the notion that farang + accident = automatically farang's fault.

Bunch of comments here on how foreigners are subject to a different justice than a Thai would be. A look at Thai language media would quickly dispel the myth.

Those with money and influence have immunity. Those with neither end up in the slammer.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Originally Posted by Butterfly

he should have fled the scene, like everyone else here

The angry mob and the bike under his wheel may have impeded that somewhat

quite unusual for a Brit not to escape the scene of a disaster he created, was probably too drunk for a lucky escape

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

In my time driving here I've personally been involved in a couple of minor traffic accidents, one my fault the other not, as well as knowing plenty of other farang who have too (right up to and including fatal accidents most unfortunately). In not one instance was myself or anyone else subjected to unfair treatment or held accountable for accidents that weren't their fault (except in the instances where they were, obviously).

Where as and in stark contrast, I have personally been subjected to the corrupt practices of the Bib and the courts. If it wasn't for double jeopardy (which was either set up by my student who was the first judge in my court case or my student who was my lawyer) I would have been screwed for 200,000bt in the law courts and a million baht in the civil courts!

A good friend of mine was stationary in a u-turn in the middle of a central reservation. A kid speeding on a motorbike rammed his back end. Police were called and the lad's mother turned up. She screamed that it was my friend's fault. He replied that it couldn't have been as he was stationery at the time! Her argument went that he was at fault as he was in Thailand and if he was back in his own country the accident wouldn't have happened! The policeman agreed with this and said it could all go away if my mate coughed up 40,000bt!

As he was executive director for a large foreign community and had no wish to involve his connections in something that was so face losing for both sides, he stumped up and raised his prices for his Thai guests - passed on the hit as businessmen do!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I thought you wrote my take on the "Justice" system here was a Myth

Oh, nope not at all. Plenty of instances to show how power/money/connections here equates to a different kind of 'justice'.

I was referring specifically to the notion that farang + accident = automatically farang's fault.

Yeah fair enough, you point is taken aboard

Originally Posted by Butterfly

he should have fled the scene, like everyone else here

according to the skid marks, I think he tried it!