Thread: Taiwan executes 6 in 1st executions since 2011

It also makes it impossible to correct miscarriages in justice and offer restitution to the innocent as nones managed to workout how to reanimate a dead person..... Just a thought

Very interesting Mr Earl.
Thank you.

The death penalty is a 100% deterrent from becoming a repeat offender.

I support the death penalty for extremely violent criminals where there is absolutely no doubt of the perp being guilty.

Originally Posted by TizMe

The death penalty is a 100% deterrent from becoming a repeat offender.

I support the death penalty for extremely violent criminals where there is absolutely no doubt of the perp being guilty.

Very true. But at what point do you kill someone? When you have proved beyond doubt that the evidence to convict was not tampered with and made up by the cops?

I reckon that Texas is not that far off letting people pay to shoot criminal on death row. I bet there would be a long line of red necks with their assault rifles ready to pay a couple of hundred bucks for the opportunity the same as they pay to shoot chained up tigers, lions, elephants... you name it. For a thousand bucks, they could be allowed to stuff and mount their heads.

Originally Posted by hazz

the risks of an excutoner becoming party to murder by killing an inocent person are far higher than the risks of them being killed in revenge. If then are willing to be party to this, they should do in public and take the coniquences as do the judges, prosecutors, politicians involved.

oh god... The poor innocents. Lets let everyone walk free then

Originally Posted by hazz

It also makes it impossible to correct miscarriages in justice and offer restitution to the innocent as nones managed to workout how to reanimate a dead person..... Just a thought

BBC News - US Webster gunman William Spengler left 'killing note'

Please refer to the link above:
if this guy had been put to death the first time around instead of only doing 17 years--for killing his grandmother with a hammer, maybe some innocent firefighters, their family, and their friends wouldn't be in the situation they're in now. One person has ruined how many lives(?), because he did his time and was supposedly rehabilitated. In my opinion someone who can kill his grandmother with a hammer doesn't deserve to live, and can't possibly fit back into society in any way, shape, or form. Maybe all the do-gooders don't mind having these people live next to them--after they've been rehabilitated, and interacting with their families--especially their children, but I believe putting this man to death would have been a blessing and the world would have been a better place. I know I'll get responses about the "supposed guilty" on death row that have had new evidence brought forward and are now proven innocent; I admit with the death penalty there are miscarriages of justice that can't be turned back, but in this case it would have been one life--and I use that term loosely, gone, as opposed to two innocent lives gone and numerous peoples lives ruined. Just another thought.....

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

it would have been one life

yours ?

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

Just another thought.....

indeed .

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

it would have been one life

yours ?

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

Just another thought.....

indeed .

If I had killed my grandmother with a hammer......yes, put me to death as it would be very hard--nigh on impossible, to rehabilitate someone who's done this kind of crime. And would I ever fit in with society again?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Me believing some people will never be of any use to society after they've committed a horrendous crime, and do-gooder liberals that live in a perfect world and believe everyone has a good side, can be rehabilitated and is of some use to society. Would you want one of these guys--a convicted murderer (of his own grandmother) or worse, a sex offender, living next to you and interacting with your wife/children(?), I don't think so.

How about we ask those firefighter's families if they think the death penalty would have been a bad idea........or his grandmother.......oh, that's right, I forgot, he killed her with a hammer, we can't ask her.

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

If I had killed my grandmother with a hammer

has nothing to do with nothing and you know it ,

the question is your INNOCENT life which of course you dodged .

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

If I had killed my grandmother with a hammer

has nothing to do with nothing and you know it ,

the question is your INNOCENT life which of course you dodged .

I admit it's a travesty of justice if an innocent person is killed by mistake, but what are the odds of this happening compared to the stats of recidivism....which might end up in more innocent lives lost.....as compared to one.

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

as compared to one.

yours ??

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

as compared to one.

yours ??

I'll leave it at that, you can have the last word.......as with a lot of these threads they end up going around and around and never getting anywhere. Like I said earlier, we'll agree to disagree. Go ahead and finish this off with a last witty comment.

no need ,your silence on the matter says it all .

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Sampattaya

as compared to one.

yours ??

I'll leave it at that, you can have the last word.......as with a lot of these threads they end up going around and around and never getting anywhere. Like I said earlier, we'll agree to disagree. Go ahead and finish this off with a last witty comment.

I think I will go on the last word here, you seem to be under the allusion that innocent people don't get murdered by the us justice system. Well it happens quite frequently, and a number of states have suspended the death penalty whilst they work out what to do about the embarrassing number of people on death row who are being proved inocent by DNA.

But lets get to some real cases, texas comes to mind, there's

Gary Graham
Carlos DeLuna
Cameron Todd Willingham

Now if you believe that murder is a special crime deserving of the death sentence, then what should you do with those who are reproducible for the state sanctioned murder of these people? Personally I would say that if you believe that murderers should die, you are prepared to participate in that killing, and as a result kill an innocent person, you accept your own execution as murder.

Originally Posted by TizMe

The death penalty is a 100% deterrent from becoming a repeat offender.

I support the death penalty for extremely violent criminals where there is absolutely no doubt of the perp being guilty.

...or any chance of rehibilitation.