Thaksin's daughter Paetongtarn responds to coffee threat

**hazz** · 02-12-2012, 01:48 AM

as i understand it, when it comes to food terrorism and flight attendants its more wiping the tea bag used to make your tea or some other suitible part of your meal on the inside of a toilet... than pooring coffee on your face.

Personally I use the same rules of engagement that I have with catering staff. don't seriously piss them off until all the food is on the table and you know that non of them will ever serve food to you in the future.

**socal** · 02-12-2012, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

people, especially celebs and people in the news are so precious these days, they have full time public relations staff promoting and managing their image, but this silly girl still finds it necessary to feel sorry for herself, whinge and notify the press as soon as a negative comment surfaces.

a throwaway comment on facebook criticises her. she should have maintained her dignity and not responded. the stewardess, if indeed it is a stewardess deserves a reprimand, nothing more.

she is a nothing, a nobody, just the daughter of a rich fugitive who thinks he is above the law.

does anybody really give a flying fuck about her and her swollen ego.

She should have just let the police note it. Personally threatening assault should be taken seriously.

If this was Huga Chavez daughter you would have a diffrent opinion.

**OhOh** · 02-12-2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Seriously though, having a go at the kids for what the parents did is not cricket.

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

right in to his bank A/C.

Originally Posted by Anatidaephobia

the kids are kinda innocent

Possible incident on the plane by the "VIP" who wasn't treated as such. Daddie's "money" paid for the ticket, or has she her own personal wealth? I am sure there are many Thais who have issues with the whole family.

**Imminent** · 02-12-2012, 07:35 AM

Not sure if all the Shin kids are outsiders to the events of the past. Panthongthae was doing some business in BKK when Mr T was in that some questioned. I think it was about advertising in the new subway. Not sure what became of that.

Anyways, I wonder if the Shin family use Thai airways? Might be too many Thais on that airline for them

**sabang** · 02-12-2012, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

I bet you think unpleasant thoughts, Sabang, you bad man

Indeed I do- I had some 'bad thoughts' about Paetongtarn actually, but they don't involve coffee. Or tea.

But at the end of the day a hostie on a commercial airline, entrusted with the safety and care of paying passengers, can only be sacked for such a comment made on social media. Whilst I do not recall such threats being made by t'other side, it would be no different if the comment were made about Abhisit or Chan-Ocha's daughter.

**Mid** · 02-12-2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

at the end of the day a hostie on a commercial airline, entrusted with the safety and care of paying passengers, can only be sacked for such a comment made on social media.

End of Story .

**sabang** · 02-12-2012, 08:00 AM

^^^ Last thing I knew, Paetongtarn was studying at Chula- so she would have been maybe 10 at the time of the coup, less at the time of the Shincorp sale.

**lom** · 02-12-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Last thing I knew, Paetongtarn was studying at Chula- so she would have been maybe 10 at the time of the coup

Not surprising that this is the last thing you knew.

Originally Posted by sabang

less at the time of the Shincorp sale.

She is born 1986.. and you, you are just babbling as usual.

**Rural Surin** · 02-12-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by sabang

Last thing I knew, Paetongtarn was studying at Chula- so she would have been maybe 10 at the time of the coup

Not surprising that this is the last thing you knew.

Originally Posted by sabang

less at the time of the Shincorp sale.

She is born 1986.. and you, you are just babbling as usual.

Perhaps the good Sabang was thinking of her sister, Pinthongta?
They look very similar and a few years between one another.

Honest mistake.

**sabang** · 02-12-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by lom

you are just babbling as usual.

So do you think it is acceptable for a flight attendant to post on social media that she would like to throw hot coffee or tea on the face of the young daughter of a politician she doesn't like, who is a paying passenger on the airline she represents?

Given the severe trouncing the Democrats have received in all of the elections in recent history- not to mention the 'crackdown', for this to be considered acceptable would hardly make the families of Democrat politicians feel comfortable. In short, leave the kids out of this.

What would be your likely reaction, if you were a Cathay executive?

Originally Posted by lom

Not surprising that this is the last thing you knew.

Not surprising at all actually- I take little interest in the sons and daughters of politicians or business people, I just vaguely recall an article a few years back when she was admitted to Chula. Assuming you are correct, and she was born in '86, that makes her 26 or so now, 20 at the time of the Shincorp sale & military coup. Clearly a criminal mastermind.

Perhaps the good Sabang was thinking of her sister, Pinthongta?

The good sabang doesn't know either from a bar of soap frankly, neither does he even know if Abhi or Chan-ocha have daughters, and neither does he care. He does care, however, that some people here seem to be defending the stewardesses right to make this appalling comment about a paying passenger over whom she is entrusted with a duty of care whilst flying with her employer Cathay Pacific, because of who her father is. She deserves to be sacked forthwith, and likely will be. It actually has nothing to do with who the Daddy politician/celebrity/ business person involved might be. Have some decency, people.

**Mid** · 02-12-2012, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Have some decency, people.

In short supply with this mob

**gaysexbyproxy** · 02-12-2012, 09:41 AM

Can't find any picks online where she appears to be hot, so any of you who want to jizz on her face might want to try her sister (or aunt!) instead. Just sayin...

**StrontiumDog** · 02-12-2012, 10:19 AM

http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...012&Itemid=185

Thai Flight Attendant Stirs Honey's Nest
Written by Pavin Chachavalpongpun
Saturday, 01 December 2012

Anybody seen Paetongtarn?

"People," Cathay says. "They make an airline." They sure do

A Thai member of Cathay Pacific’s cabin crew has stirred up a social media hornet’s nest in Thailand when she revealed her extreme dislike of one important Business Class passenger – the daughter of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. She ended upon the front page of several Thai-language newspapers.

The flight attendant, known as “Honey Lochanachai,” posted on her Facebook page a photo of the manifest, the list of passengers on board a Cathay flight bound for Hong Kong on Nov. 25. The flight originated in Bangkok. Browsing the names, Honey came across Paetongtarn Shinawatra, Thaksin’s daughter.

It would be an understatement to say Honey is not fond of the Shinawatra family. The remarks she posted on her Facebook page have gone viral in Thailand, highlighting how deeply divided the country remains over the former premier, who was deposed in a coup in 2006 but who continues to run the place by remote control through his sister, Yingluck, the current prime minister, and through a handful of senior advisers from his pre-2006 government.

“I have heard that the Shinawatra family often uses Cathay Pacific to travel to Hong Kong. I never expected that (Paetongtarn) was on board today,” Honey wrote. “I immediately told my flight manager that I could not work knowing that the daughter of my enemy was on the plane. The manager was kind to reassign me to be in charge of other sections.”

She continued: “I also called my personal advisor asking if it would be all right to throw coffee at Paetongtarn, but was told that this could breach Hong Kong’s law. I was so angry and could not come to terms with the failure of last Saturday’s anti-government rally in Bangkok.”

The rally she referred to was organized to attempt topple Yingluck’s Pheu Thai government on the grounds that the prime minister was simply her brother’s puppet. Thaksin himself has referred to her as his “clone.” Honey thus is one among many Thais who continue to use Thaksin to justify a myriad of anti-government actions and policies, legitimately or otherwise.

“Initially I made another plan with the help of my colleague on the flight who was also an anti-Thaksin to slander Thaksin in front of his daughter before the plane landed in Hong Kong,” Honey wrote on Facebook. “But I gave up. I could not stop crying realizing that we will have to continue to fight with ‘bad peoples’.”

These private notes on her Facebook page were shared among pro-Thaksin groups and were widely distributed during the following days. Many wrote to complain about what they considered an unethical act in revealing the details of passengers in public. It broke the trust of those who use Cathay’s service, they said.

The Bangkok Branch manager of Cathay Pacific was apologetic about what was regarded as staff misconduct. The company issued a statement saying, “We take this matter very seriously and immediately began an investigation upon receipt of the allegations. With a comprehensive investigative process, it may take several days to complete.”

As an indication of the continuing controversy over Thaksin, however, it is instructive. During a failed no-confidence motion filed by the opposition Democrat Party against Yingluck and some of her ministers last week, for instance, Thaksin’s name was mentioned more often than that of his sister. The Democrats took every opportunity to connect Thaksin with any alleged wrongdoings by the government. At one point, one Democrat Member of Parliament referred to Thaksin more than 40 times during her short speech.

Many of the anti-Thaksin individuals are also devout royalists. It was reported that Honey, in her spare time, often joined right-wing yellow-shirt demonstrations. The yellow-shirt movement has been known to adopt a pro-monarchy agenda and at times politicized the much-revered institution in order to protect its own political interests.

But for royalists like Honey, the fight against Thaksin is believed an act of protecting the monarchy. They have successfully created a new discourse. But by promoting this kind of thinking, the monarchy too has become a polarizing institution.

From this view, Honey’s Facebook page simply reflects a deeper conflict between the royalists and the Thaksin factions. During the recent anti-Thaksin rally, one leader, the retired Thai Army Gen. Boonlert Kaewprasit, proposed that for Thailand to move forward, the country must be “frozen” for five years, in order to allow “bad politicians” to retire and “good politicians” to enter the political scene. Presumably, the bad ones are those like Thaksin. Boonlert also said that he had no faith in democracy. He wanted to return political power to the King. Honey’s Facebook page attests to the fact that she is apparently a supporter of Boonlert.

Should the latest move by the anti-government group, or Honey’s angry outburst be considered an act of desperation? In the past year, the Yingluck government has performed rather well in terms of implementing a number of populist programs inherited from the Thaksin era. These programs aim at winning the hearts and minds of its supporters in far-flung provinces.

Honey and Boonlert may fear that as Yingluck has become more confident, she could come to dominate the political and economic space as her brother had done most successfully. And quiet likely, the drama on that Cathay flight to Hong Kong might simply reflect how many middle-class Thais continue to fear the Shinawatras as their enemy.

(Pavin Chachavalpongpun is associate professor at Kyoto University’s Centre for Southeast Asian Studies.)

**Anatidaephobia** · 02-12-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Seriously though, having a go at the kids for what the parents did is not cricket.

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

right in to his bank A/C.

Originally Posted by Anatidaephobia

the kids are kinda innocent

Possible incident on the plane by the "VIP" who wasn't treated as such. Daddie's "money" paid for the ticket, or has she her own personal wealth? I am sure there are many Thais who have issues with the whole family.

This may be so - how does that make the child a justifiable target for someone who doesn't like the father?

You failed to explain that.

**taxexile** · 02-12-2012, 11:05 AM

“I immediately told my flight manager that I could not work knowing that the daughter of my enemy was on the plane. The manager was kind to reassign me to be in charge of other sections.”

“I also called my personal advisor asking if it would be all right to throw coffee at Paetongtarn, but was told that this could breach Hong Kong’s law. I was so angry and could not come to terms with the failure of last Saturday’s anti-government rally in Bangkok.”

.

“But I gave up. I could not stop crying realizing that we will have to continue to fight with ‘bad peoples’.”

after reading these comments from the stewardess i would say she is not fit to work at her job. in fact she seems mentally unstable. i could understand her asking not to be put in a position where she would have to serve thaksins daughter or see her, but her extreme vindictiveness is somewhat alarming.

**lom** · 02-12-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

So do you think it is acceptable for a flight attendant to post on social media that she would like to throw hot coffee or tea on the face of the young daughter of a politician she doesn't like, who is a paying passenger on the airline she represents?

In general I think it is acceptable to post on Facebook about your love or hate for someone/something, she shouldn't had dragged her employer into it though.

Originally Posted by sabang

Quote: Originally Posted by lom Not surprising that this is the last thing you knew. Not surprising at all actually- I take little interest in the sons and daughters of politicians or business people, I just vaguely recall an article a few years back when she was admitted to Chula. Assuming you are correct, and she was born in '86, that makes her 26 or so now, 20 at the time of the Shincorp sale & military coup. Clearly a criminal mastermind.

This innocent child was together with her brother proxies for the real owner of the Shin Corp shares.
The "birthday gift" of 367 million baht from her mother bought her quite a good part of Ample Rich's holding in the company on which she made a filthy high profit.
She is not a nobody, she is part of the Shinawatra clan (3 PM's so far) and you will see more of her in the future.
Anyone interested in Thai politics should know about this and the 3 other Kennedy-like clans who is ruling or has ruled Thailand, their kids are part of the clan and can not be considered untouchable.

**gaysexbyproxy** · 02-12-2012, 11:56 AM

What an immature little bitch. It's astonishing that Cathay Pacific even needs to think about what to do. Her supervisor ought to face disciplinary action as well.

**Anatidaephobia** · 02-12-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

“I immediately told my flight manager that I could not work knowing that the daughter of my enemy was on the plane. The manager was kind to reassign me to be in charge of other sections.”

“I also called my personal advisor asking if it would be all right to throw coffee at Paetongtarn, but was told that this could breach Hong Kong’s law. I was so angry and could not come to terms with the failure of last Saturday’s anti-government rally in Bangkok.”

I have to admit, if she could not figure out that 'throwing coffee in her face' would not be okay by regulations, and had to ask her 'personal advisor' (read: 'fortune teller') then she's probably not fit to be a stewardess, and would be more opt to work in a bar.

Is she cute enough? Her Facebook profile (predictably) is no longer active.

**Anatidaephobia** · 02-12-2012, 12:34 PM

Nevertheless, so far no one has been able to come up with what crimes the daughter has committed to justifiable be a target for hatred against her father? Oh, she was a "proxy" for a financial transaction? Really? Such BS.

**Just another BOF** · 02-12-2012, 01:07 PM

Many air hostesses have military family connections. I wonder if "Honey" turns down a reip to the US as Obama appears to have the hots for Yingluck.

**socal** · 02-12-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by gaysexbyproxy

Can't find any picks online where she appears to be hot, so any of you who want to jizz on her face might want to try her sister (or aunt!) instead. Just sayin...

The pic on here looks good. I would drink her bath water

**lom** · 02-12-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Anatidaephobia

Nevertheless, so far no one has been able to come up with what crimes the daughter has committed to justifiable be a target for hatred against her father? Oh, she was a "proxy" for a financial transaction? Really? Such BS.

Good luck in your search for a rational explanation of hate, especially here in Thailand.

**helge** · 02-12-2012, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by socal

If this was Huga Chavez daughter you would have a diffrent opinion.

No takers Socal ?

Was a bit obvious this one

**Tom Sawyer** · 02-12-2012, 09:45 PM

[quote=taxexile;2285713]

after reading these comments from the stewardess i would say she is not fit to work at her job. in fact she seems mentally unstable. i could understand her asking not to be put in a position where she would have to serve thaksins daughter or see her, but her extreme vindictiveness is somewhat alarming.

I fully agree and again she needs to be fired. But has, or has not, Cathay, identified her and fired her? It must be obvious by now who she is.

(Side note: I must admit Tax Exile you disappoint me as I was eagerly awaiting your reply to Socal - regarding his suggestion you'd stand beside Chavez's daughter. Too funny.)

**OhOh** · 03-12-2012, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Anatidaephobia

You failed to explain that.

The seed was sown, others, more knowledgeable on the subject, have illustrated my concerns adequately.

Originally Posted by lom

This innocent child was together with her brother proxies for the real owner of the Shin Corp shares.
The "birthday gift" of 367 million baht from her mother bought her quite a good part of Ample Rich's holding in the company on which she made a filthy high profit.
She is not a nobody, she is part of the Shinawatra clan (3 PM's so far) and you will see more of her in the future.
Anyone interested in Thai politics should know about this and the 3 other Kennedy-like clans who is ruling or has ruled Thailand, their kids are part of the clan and can not be considered untouchable.

Or are you suggesting that "family" is not a bond/business grouping in Thailand? Not that it solely a Thai phenomena, the Kennedy, Bush, Clinton families spring to mind.

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