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    Guatemala City's Earthquake big hole



    This hole suddenly apperared in Sumatra, on 6 march 07...

    i just have the few pics but do not know if some unfortunate drivers or stanbyers where trapped in there...



    Most prolly some houses are gone !!



    Walk out the house and face this, Gosh....




    How deep is this ?


    Anybody in there ??

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    I knew a girl like that once...

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    Oh well, at least now they have a large latrine to serve the community.

    Seriously though, I'll bet that a few more will begin to appear in the area. I wouldn't want to like anywhere near that place as there are probably a series of underground caves which are collapsing for some reason.

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    It could have something to do with a falling ground-water level.

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    ^ A very good reason. As the ground water drops, there is no support for the surface soil & it collapses.

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    Nothing to worry about.

    It's DD digging another swimming pool

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    It could have something to do with a falling ground-water level.
    That explains the depth, but did they really have to dig it so wide ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    It could have something to do with a falling ground-water level.
    Nope, has to be a UFO. Look how round the hole is, like made with a drill.

    Btw; could somebody in the know move the picture in the "Beautiful Houses" Thread?

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    It was associated with an earthquake, maybe hell opened up and demons will ascend to establish their reign?

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    Mysterious holes in the earth and spontaneous combustion are two things that fascinate me.
    I don't think anyone yet knows how deep the Blue Lake in Sth Australia is.

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    I hope someone puts a couple of tree branches in the road to stop folks driving into the hole

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    Interesting wonder whats at the bottom.

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    It's not Sumatra, it's Guatamala City:

    GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - Three people were missing on Friday after a 200-foot-deep (61 meters) hole opened up in the middle of a Guatemalan neighbourhood, likely due to a burst sewer pipe.

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    That's right (oops!)
    Last edited by Hootad Binky; 12-03-2007 at 04:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Mysterious holes in the earth and spontaneous combustion are two things that fascinate me.
    I don't think anyone yet knows how deep the Blue Lake in Sth Australia is.
    I do - it is 75 meters deep. That's peanuts.

    http://http://www.southaustralia.com...uct_id=9003075

    For comparison, the deepest lake in the world, Baikal, is 1637 meters deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I don't think anyone yet knows how deep the Blue Lake in Sth Australia is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva
    I do - it is 75 meters deep.
    woops

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    Quote Originally Posted by playon
    Three people were missing on Friday after a 200-foot-deep (61 meters) hole opened up in the middle of a Guatemalan neighbourhood, likely due to a burst sewer pipe.
    Must have been a hell of a sewer-pipe. Fancy going mising in there?

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    Different continent

    I was on this post this morning, and remembered it as it happened - I was going to be a smart arse and correct Sumatra to South America but several smart arses have already beaten me to the punch.... even the depth of the Blue Lake is no longer mine to own .... this is a Wiki world now, ennit?
    Last edited by frostyboy; 12-03-2007 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playon View Post
    It's not Sumatra, it's Guatamala City:

    GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - Three people were missing on Friday after a 200-foot-deep (61 meters) hole opened up in the middle of a Guatemalan neighbourhood, likely due to a burst sewer pipe.

    Sorry bout that !!! The email i received stated Sumatra

    I tried to re edit post title but to late, the edit option is gone, may be in a forum black hole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forreachingme
    The email i received stated Sumatra
    Don't worry they both have lot's of "A's" and a U,M,T. I for one can hardly tell the diference

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    RC, sorry bout your misfortune, i wanted to come and see your farm once, but this is may be reported for some times now...

    Anyway, do not plan to do this Farming in Switzerland Jura place as they have bloody black holes eating cows over there...

    here the link :

    Holes of the Jura

    cows and old womans disappear there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Mysterious holes in the earth and spontaneous combustion are two things that fascinate me.
    I don't think anyone yet knows how deep the Blue Lake in Sth Australia is.
    I do - it is 75 meters deep. That's peanuts.

    http://http://www.southaustralia.com...uct_id=9003075

    For comparison, the deepest lake in the world, Baikal, is 1637 meters deep.
    Not so fast. They have already plumbed depths about three times that in the Blue Lake, using Sonar, but they still don't know if thats the bottom.
    The 75M you refer to is the main bottom, but there are pipes going down a good deal further of which the deepest sample is around 210 metres.
    The hole I am referring to (210M) is several metres wide as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forreachingme
    here the link : Holes of the Jura
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    This site has been blocked due to unsuitable contents.

    idiots...probably cause they use the word 'holes'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Mysterious holes in the earth and spontaneous combustion are two things that fascinate me.
    I don't think anyone yet knows how deep the Blue Lake in Sth Australia is.
    I do - it is 75 meters deep. That's peanuts.

    http://http://www.southaustralia.com...uct_id=9003075

    For comparison, the deepest lake in the world, Baikal, is 1637 meters deep.
    Not so fast. They have already plumbed depths about three times that in the Blue Lake, using Sonar, but they still don't know if thats the bottom.
    The 75M you refer to is the main bottom, but there are pipes going down a good deal further of which the deepest sample is around 210 metres.
    The hole I am referring to (210M) is several metres wide as well.
    All right then - still a puddle compared to the Baikal.
    Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klongmaster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by forreachingme
    here the link : Holes of the Jura
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    This site has been blocked due to unsuitable contents.

    idiots...probably cause they use the word 'holes'...

    Holes of the Jura
    The Winter Sport for all members of the family
    (except the small ones)

    An essay on holes
    (Apologies to Jean-Paul Sartre)


    The Jura's made of karst limestone and, in many places, riddled with holes. Luckily, hidden holes that surprise hikers are tucked away in the dark forests (above left) -- on the open pastures, where cows of economic value wander all about, there are far fewer holes, and those holes that remain are curtained all about with barbed wire and, sometimes, stone walls.
    Except one.This nasty hole (above right), down the southwest end of the Mont Tendre ridgeline, is probably the only unguarded open-meadow hole in the region, and seems this time, judging from the tracks, almost to have claimed a victim, poor chap. Caught in the branches thoughtfully laid over the cavemouth, the unlucky man or woman seems to have thrashed up and down a bit whilst, from the snowshoe marks, his or her friends steadied themselves to haul him or her out of it. [Here's the vicious little thing in summer.]

    In the forest, however, especially down in the depressions, where cows fear to tread, anything goes. In this nasty hole, not far from the Druchaux farm, there's no bottom in sight no matter what kind of light you shine down it. It's good to tread lightly in this area.
    There are many signs to watch for in hole country -- first of all, holes, of course; and broken snow surface with limestone outcrops, lots of ups and downs, shadows under the snow, oddly spaced depressions, stone walls and barbed wire fences (where one reflects "This fence is here for a cow-related reason; well, am I on the good side of it for cows, or the bad side?"), and a kind of fern that grows round the base of trees in serious hole country, who knows why, but always associated with holes in the area.
    Sometimes clairvoyance helps as well -- not infrequently, one enters a clearing devoid of conscious signs of holes and gets a chill or foreboding discomfort, one pauses and probes ahead with a ski-pole, and a tiny snowbridge collapses into a vicious great hole or crack, and despite oneself one murmurs "Thank you". The sixth sense is not scientifically quantifiable or capable of replication, but it's helpful with limestone holes in the Jura.

    Still another. There are several areas in the Mont Tendre region, forested limestone depressions tucked in amongst the headlands, where the water has nowhere to go but straight down, and these are called "Creux d'Enfer" on the maps -- Hell Hollow would be the best translation. The Creux d'Enfer de Druchaux (site of the above) between the Druchaux farm and Mont Tendre, the Creux d'Enfer du Petit Cunay between Druchaux and the Petit Cunay headland, another between Monts de Bière and Grand Cunay, and lots more.
    It's slow going down through these things, but excellent sport in winter. Vigilance, concentration, intense focus required, and only a tiny bit of effort or risk -- in fine, a gentleman's sport. Not unlike golf.

    Most nasty holes are in depressions, but this one is on a little rise in a forest clearing in the Creux d'Enfer du Petit Cunay; it drops down about 10 feet and then angles off into places we hope we will never get to know about. It's about 100 meters west in the forest from a very vasty hole marked on the map as La Glacière -- there are at least a few more of these in the region, and they refer to holes and limestone chimneys so deep as to retain permanent ice throughout the summer. Here's another Glacière . . .

    The hole called La Glacière de Saint George, or Le Gouffre, deep in the forest high above the village of St. George (and not far from the Eau Pendante, or "Hanging waters"), is a protected natural monument with sturdy ladders leading one down about 40 meters to the ice, and lots of daunting passages leading away from that -- more on that later.

    Here's another littler one in the Creux d'Enfer du Petit Cunay -- don't stumble across that one in the twilight. No bottom in sight. Snowshoes and skis often help in such circumstances, however -- More than a few times in recent years, in careless moments and near somewhat less obvious hazards than this one, snowshoes refused to be swallowed up where otherwise one's leg would easily have been. "Gagged the shark", so to speak. And once in 2001 the hapless narrator, in still another careless moment whilst reviewing his favorite TV sitcoms in his mind, did not get swallowed up in a situation in which a person of, shall we say, "more modest girth" likely would never have been seen again.

    Unlike in the Alps, in the Jura most holes that eat people stay open and visible (in daylight and good weather) all through the winter. [There's a fine hole just south of Grand Cunay into which you could drop one of those cute new Volkswagens without hearing it hit the sides -- not much subtlety there, you can see that thing from 50 meters away, and it's got a stone wall round it anyway.] And most of the smaller snow-covered holes merely tug at one's ankles or, on rare occasions, break them. But there is always that frisson, the possibility of a hole somewhere in between the harmlessly invisible and the charmlessly obvious, that draws hikers back to the Creux d'Enfer in winter.

    For example! Dr J. J. Pirri taking a luckily brief trip into a well-hidden hole in the forest of Grande Rolat, January 2002. Simple cautions, like "Watch Your Step", have no meaning for Dr Pirri.
    Predictably undeterred, Prof Pirri returns not long thereafter to check another monster hole as if lessons were not for learning.
    But Dr Pirri's capacity for falling into holes is virtually inexhaustible, as you can see in the ensuing pages.

    Another essay on holes
    Not all holes in the Jura are as obvious as this one in the Creux d'Enfer de Druchaux. In some places, fields and fields of open holes and cracks in the limestone forest floor can provide hours of targeted winter entertainment when the lads venture into the area on a warm and sunny afternoon in January 2002.
    Right, it's that kind of January, a Republican Januaryyou might say. Nine of the ten hottest years on record have occurred since 1990, when the Republicans legislated a ban on research on alternatives to wholesale dependence upon the fossil fuels which frequently make a select few of us extremely rich. Not me, of course, and not you, but . . . well, pretty much just our presidents and vice-presidents and the kindly folks who pull their strings and get all the tax cuts and what not.

    Dr John J. ("Joe") Pirri, leading the expedition whilst recounting amusing anecdotes from his youth, almost disappears into a shallow crack or chasm in the forest floor. Not far from a humongous hole in the forest floor (left).

    Whilst Dr Pirri labors to extract himself from the forest floor, his colleague(s) dart about in all unhelpful directions seeking still funnier camera angles.

    Delighting in Mr Pirri's predicament, his colleague(s) blow off the better part of a roll of film hoping to chronicle just the right moment when physics and irony meet, and Dr Pirri disappears straight down, leaving behind only a ski pole and the aroma of aftershave.
    Mere moments later, having charged Dr Pirri with negligence and taken over the lead, Mr D. C. Peck of Bassins, Switzerland, wanders into a similar fate and lodges his snowshoe into a narrow crevice . . .

    . . . which evidently likes his snowshoe a lot and schemes to retain it indefinitely.

    Orphan snowshoe -- if we disengage it from our feet, it will descend quickly out of reach, into the bowels of the earth as it were, and we'll only have one left (snowshoe, that is, not bowel. Well, that too.). So we keep on tugging at it, as afternoon drags on into evening and our mozzarella sandwiches begin to dry out in our backpacks.

    So, with a shall-we-call-it Herculean effort we yank! the reluctant plastic out of the earth, at the cost of about 80 grams of knee cartilege, and regain our freedom, something devoutly to be wished for a lot of people around the world in these fallen times.
    [Worse than just cartilege: the following week the whole snowshoe fell apart three hours out from the Col de la Givrine. Shouldn't have Yanked it so hard - diplomacy might have worked better.]

    But freedom is not always the same thing as standing upright, and -- as so often is the case -- the standing upright part of it takes up another handsome length of time. Throughout which, former President J. J. Pirri was making himself sick with laughter at the contemplation of our plight.
    The last laugh, as Mr Pirri dives in again moments later. (The penultimate laugh, actually, because shortly after this one, we went in again, too.)
    BUT . . . once out of the blimey limestones and heading back at the end of the day, we remember why we've come here in the first place. Sunset, 26 January 2002, on the far side of the Col du Marchairuz.
    There's no theoretical limit to how many more embarrassing pix of Dr Joe Pirri falling into nasty limestone holes one could put up here, so this page will probably always be "under construction". Bookmark this page and come back for more holes. And write to Dr Pirri and encourage him to wander in the forest still more negligently.
    General Holes Menu
    Holes of the Jura
    Introduction and scientific background
    Drs Pirri and Peck falling into small holes
    The search for more holes, Swiss Jura, spring 2002
    The search for more holes: Grand Cunay, a real biggy
    The search for more holes 2002 & hors de série holes
    Some Jura holes try to swallow Dr Pirri, spring 2003
    Limestone holes keep yawning before us, winter 2003-4
    A few extremely interesting holes, winter and spring 2006
    Very big holes: St George, Pré d'Aubonne, St-Livres, Petit Cunay, Chenuz
    Dr Pirri on the point of disappearing into a lovely great hole in the forest of Grande Rolat, February 2005.
    Still works for me !

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