Originally Posted by Mid
Cannot, too many police and politicians making money.
Originally Posted by Mid
Cannot, too many police and politicians making money.
Mid, who says anyone should leave the bosses untouched? I don\'t believe they are left untouched.
As for any ideas you would have about how to punish - or not- drug smugglers or drug traffickers - I have yet to read them.
Just let them go about their merry way if caught? Let them swamp the population with heroin, meth-amphetamine etc...?
Your children would be easily supplied as would mine and anyone\'s.
Any ideas, Mid?
Inspecting the jetsam and flotsam of this world
then post up an article showing same ?Originally Posted by WiserWizard
happening now ain't it , what % do you think gets detected ?Originally Posted by WiserWizard
and the murder of a few mules has changed that ?Originally Posted by WiserWizard
Done deal all the arguing is not going to change this.
The Barlow and Chambers execution refers to the hanging in 1986 by Malaysia of two Australian citizens, Kevin John Barlow and Brian Geoffrey Chambers of Perth, Western Australia, for the drug trafficking of 141.9 g of heroin.
The two men became the first Westerners to be executed under Malaysia's new tougher laws for drug offences that prescribe death for anyone convicted of having over 15 grams of heroin. Barlow was born in the UK in Stoke-on-Trent and held dual British and Australian nationalities.[1] Barlow's family made appeals to UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to make a protest about the impending execution, and an appeal for clemency to the Malaysian government from Australian politician Bill Hayden was made.[2]
The executions caused public outcry and strained political relations between Australia and Malaysia at the time.
Dead the both of them. Facts not rhetoric might be better.
You are evading the question, Mid, and you know it.
Chambers is from my home city. he was a well known smack Smuggler and unfortunately Barlow was a dumb fuk mule who got busted on one of his first runs.
Both bought the big one, major story in Perth and cant recall another West Australian punter who has pulled on the same crime.
Not a bad outcome one must assume.
WTF?Originally Posted by terry57
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I realize that statement might disturb you Willy but have a nice cup of tea and think about it a tad.
No dumb fuk Aussies have pulled the same stunt again as the Malaysians made there stand after intervention from our Prime Minister calling for lenience.
The message was loud and clear.
Don't smuggle drugs out of or into Malaysia, if you get caught we will hang your arse.
What ever.
The following Australians have been executed in recent years:
Michael McAuliffe - HANGED ON 19 JUNE 1993 in Malaysia
http://www.nswccl.org.au/issues/deat.../death_row.php
Nope, no answers from Mid, only a red. Disappointing, really, as he is one of my all-time favourite posters
I tend to agree, in principle, with most of his political stances, however, he is dead easy to wind up.Originally Posted by WiserWizard
I tend to agree with him on pretty much every topic as well - must have left him close to 100 greens over the years.
I happen to think he is wrong on this one and not offering a suggestion as to what to do with drug traffickers is not his usual style
seriously you numbskulls need to get it into your brains that out of the 10 ASEAN countries, only two, Singapore and Vietnam, execute anybody with anything approaching regularity and even they have lessened it somewhat recently.
the other 8 have basically stopped bothering.
Erm, what's that got to do with anything, Twerry made a statement that no Aussies have been caught smuggling drugs in Malaysia since Barlow and Chambers were hanged. Turns out he was wrong.
Did Indonesia not execute the Bali bombers last year or have you forgotten that they belong to ASEAN also?
Getting a bit excitable aint you, at least get your facts right.
I'm glad you brought that up. Indonesia is kind of an inbetweenie in the ASEAN capital punishment stakes.
being by far the most populous of the 10 nations, it deserves to be watched more than mere piffle like the Philippines, the 2nd most populous, and Thailand, the 4th (Vietnam is in between).
what is gleaned is that they're on off with the capital punishment. They've had various moritoriums over the years. There's been periods of several years when the most populous country in south east Asia hasn't executed anybody at all.
really serious crimes like the Bali bombings which i would remind you none of the other south east Asian countries have ever had to face, yes they have resulted rarely in executions in Indonesia. But you would have to go back quite some considerable time to find drug mule dupes of any nationality like the Australians Barlow and Chambers that were executed in Malaysia in 1986 in Indonesia. THey seem to chop and change with the capital punishment thing in Indonesia, but overall, they're judicially killing people a lot less often than they were 30 years ago.
Oh, you\'re a clever one to have spotted that RS . . . the good old Portland air must be doing you a favour.
Sorry to disappoint you - never flounced, wasn\'t banned and not jailed. Unlike you.
(Oh, should you really be talking alt nics, Jeff/Jiggs/Rural Surin/Somchai etc...?)
funny, innit ?Originally Posted by WiserWizard
no, the laws in Malaysia were formulated after the British systemOriginally Posted by Jools
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