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ceburat · 21-11-2006, 11:13 PM

Today I went to Thai Immigration BKK to up-date myself on what I am required to do to extend my 90-day "O" visa for nine more months to make a full year. IMO It seems that some more recent changes have been made to the law since 1 October 2006.

In the past and from what I have read on this forum, I understood that, for marriage, you must have 400,000 baht in the bank at least 3 months prior to applying for the extension or 40,000 baht per month income. Monthly income may be your's, wife's, or a combination.

Today I was informed that for marriage visa, I or my wife, or both, must actually work (not be retired) and have at least 40,000 baht per month income. The lady further stated that since I am over 50 I should go for the retirement visa and show proof of 800,000 baht in the bank for the past three months or proof that I have income of 65,000 baht per month income.

65,000 baht per month income is not a problem, however, this is new information from what I have heard and seen here. So it seems to me from what I was told today that married people under age 50 are going to have some real problems unless they work and meet the 40,000 per month requirement. According to this lady the 400,000 baht requirement was no more for married visa.

I'll be trying to complete the requirements and get the extension this week. I'll post again here the results.

Thetyim · 21-11-2006, 11:27 PM

Yes that is correct.

For an extension based on marraige to a thai you must show the income.
A 400k bank balance is no longer acceptable.

Ceburat, do you have any children living with you ?
If the answer is yes, then there might be some good news for you soon regarding getting a one year extension.

ceburat · 21-11-2006, 11:32 PM

If immigration grants my extension based on 65k per mo inc, can I re-invest my 400k that I have now or use it towards my house building funds?

Thetyim · 21-11-2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceburat

If immigration grants my extension based on 65k per mo inc, can I re-invest my 400k that I have now or use it towards my house building funds?

According to the current rules, yes.

ceburat · 21-11-2006, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Yes that is correct.

For an extension based on marraige to a thai you must show the income.
A 400k bank balance is no longer acceptable.

Ceburat, do you have any children living with you ?
If the answer is yes, then there might be some good news for you soon regarding getting a one year extension.

No children yet, maybe never, I am an old dog. Great idea tho.

daveboy · 22-11-2006, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Ceburat, do you have any children living with you ? If the answer is yes, then there might be some good news for you soon regarding getting a one year extension.

Do tell

man with no head · 22-11-2006, 12:00 PM

Yes, please tell about children and visa extentions.

Thetyim · 22-11-2006, 04:58 PM

Well I didn't want to post about it just yet as it is still a bit uncertain but here goes.

Go to this Immigration Website.
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004...e/rtp606EN.pdf

Now scroll down to: paragraph 7.17, clause (5)

This states that if you are over 50 years old and have a thai child (either yours or your wife's) living in the same house as you then you qualify for a one year extension.

But you do not have to show any income or any bank balance.

The reason it is uncertain is that Bangkok are issuing extensions under clause 5 but ChiangMai are not.

man with no head · 22-11-2006, 05:15 PM

But under 50 it doesn't apply then?

man with no head · 22-11-2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Well I didn't want to post about it just yet as it is still a bit uncertain but here goes.

Go to this Immigration Website.
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004...e/rtp606EN.pdf

Now scroll down to: paragraph 7.17, clause (5)

This states that if you are over 50 years old and have a thai child (either yours or your wife's) living in the same house as you then you qualify for a one year extension.

But you do not have to show any income or any bank balance.

The reason it is uncertain is that Bangkok are issuing extensions under clause 5 but ChiangMai are not.

If I'm reading this correctly it states that the applicant must be applying to take care of a parent 50 years or older...not the way you stated it.

However, it does state that the only category for needing proof of income/bank verification is clause (6) which refers to only an alien married to a Thai wife if none of the other conditions apply.

If I'm understanding this correctly then I could take my son to stay in Thailand and until he's 20 years old I'm guaranteed a yearly visa with no income requirement or verification provided the ducks are in order (he obtains proof of Thai citizenship, etc). From clause (3) to clause (6) the criteria are separated by the word 'or' therefore only one condition needs to be met. The fact that I'm married to a Thai spouse is irrelevant for the yearly visa (aside from proving a relationship and nothing more) because of my son who is by law a Thai.

Make sense?

man with no head · 22-11-2006, 05:35 PM

The aforementioned section with highlights.

Thetyim · 22-11-2006, 07:11 PM

No you read it wrong.
Clause 4 is when a child is applying.

Clause 5 is for a parent applying for an extension because he is living in the same house as his thai child .

There is no age limit to the child. The word 'child' is not used in clause 5.
Your kid can be 40 years old and supporting you

This clause is such a give away that (as I mentioned before) ChiangMai are not allowing it but Bangkok is.

I have a friend who is applying under clause 5 soon.
I will post here how he gets on.
If he gets accepted I might try it myself.

ceburat · 22-11-2006, 07:18 PM

Thetyim, this 13 pages that you refer to here, is this the complete new immigration rules? or Is there more?

Thetyim · 22-11-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceburat

is this the complete new immigration rules?

Sorry, I don't know

ceburat · 23-11-2006, 07:42 PM

Today I went to immigration to obtain a 9 month extension of my 90 day "O" visa. I only had a medical certificate that I picked up from the hospital this morning. Since the U.S.EMBASSY was closed today I used my 18 month old statement of earnings from the embassy. I filled out the application, attached one photo, and signed it. Made copies of my pass port pages and went to the info desk at the front of immigration. There they gave me a number and I went into room 101 and waited for almost three hours for our number to be called. When we got to the desk the process went very smooth. Initial this, sign that, staple this and that and wait for about 10 minutes. Then the lady, smiling as she hands me my pass port, say's bye bye, have a good stay. My wife and I both thank her and go out of that room and check my pass port. Granted an extension to September 2007. Retirement stamped into the pass port.

No talk of money in the bank, no letter from the bank, as was done on a previous attemt at retirement visa in June 2004. The medical certificate and the 18 month old letter of certification from the embassy as to pension amounts was all she looked at.

Thetyim · 23-11-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceburat

Retirement stamped into the pass port.
No talk of money in the bank, no letter from the bank,

Congratulations.
Please don't ask me to explain why.

21-11-2006, 11:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
ceburat Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:35 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,291	Marriage Visa Rules Today I went to Thai Immigration BKK to up-date myself on what I am required to do to extend my 90-day "O" visa for nine more months to make a full year. IMO It seems that some more recent changes have been made to the law since 1 October 2006. In the past and from what I have read on this forum, I understood that, for marriage, you must have 400,000 baht in the bank at least 3 months prior to applying for the extension or 40,000 baht per month income. Monthly income may be your's, wife's, or a combination. Today I was informed that for marriage visa, I or my wife, or both, must actually work (not be retired) and have at least 40,000 baht per month income. The lady further stated that since I am over 50 I should go for the retirement visa and show proof of 800,000 baht in the bank for the past three months or proof that I have income of 65,000 baht per month income. 65,000 baht per month income is not a problem, however, this is new information from what I have heard and seen here. So it seems to me from what I was told today that married people under age 50 are going to have some real problems unless they work and meet the 40,000 per month requirement. According to this lady the 400,000 baht requirement was no more for married visa. I'll be trying to complete the requirements and get the extension this week. I'll post again here the results. Last edited by ceburat : 21-11-2006 at 11:24 PM.

21-11-2006, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Thetyim Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phrae Posts: 12,218	Yes that is correct. For an extension based on marraige to a thai you must show the income. A 400k bank balance is no longer acceptable. Ceburat, do you have any children living with you ? If the answer is yes, then there might be some good news for you soon regarding getting a one year extension. Last edited by Thetyim : 21-11-2006 at 11:34 PM.

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21-11-2006, 11:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
ceburat Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:35 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,291	If immigration grants my extension based on 65k per mo inc, can I re-invest my 400k that I have now or use it towards my house building funds?

22-11-2006, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
man with no head Somewhere Travelling Last Online: 11-08-2007 07:39 PM Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,424	Yes, please tell about children and visa extentions.

22-11-2006, 04:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Thetyim Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phrae Posts: 12,218	Well I didn't want to post about it just yet as it is still a bit uncertain but here goes. Go to this Immigration Website. http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004...e/rtp606EN.pdf Now scroll down to: paragraph 7.17, clause (5) This states that if you are over 50 years old and have a thai child (either yours or your wife's) living in the same house as you then you qualify for a one year extension. But you do not have to show any income or any bank balance. The reason it is uncertain is that Bangkok are issuing extensions under clause 5 but ChiangMai are not.

22-11-2006, 05:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
man with no head Somewhere Travelling Last Online: 11-08-2007 07:39 PM Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,424	But under 50 it doesn't apply then?

22-11-2006, 05:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
man with no head Somewhere Travelling Last Online: 11-08-2007 07:39 PM Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,424	The aforementioned section with highlights.

22-11-2006, 07:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
Thetyim Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phrae Posts: 12,218	No you read it wrong. Clause 4 is when a child is applying. Clause 5 is for a parent applying for an extension because he is living in the same house as his thai child . There is no age limit to the child. The word 'child' is not used in clause 5. Your kid can be 40 years old and supporting you This clause is such a give away that (as I mentioned before) ChiangMai are not allowing it but Bangkok is. I have a friend who is applying under clause 5 soon. I will post here how he gets on. If he gets accepted I might try it myself.

22-11-2006, 07:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
ceburat Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:35 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,291	Thetyim, this 13 pages that you refer to here, is this the complete new immigration rules? or Is there more?

23-11-2006, 07:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
ceburat Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:35 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,291	Today I went to immigration to obtain a 9 month extension of my 90 day "O" visa. I only had a medical certificate that I picked up from the hospital this morning. Since the U.S.EMBASSY was closed today I used my 18 month old statement of earnings from the embassy. I filled out the application, attached one photo, and signed it. Made copies of my pass port pages and went to the info desk at the front of immigration. There they gave me a number and I went into room 101 and waited for almost three hours for our number to be called. When we got to the desk the process went very smooth. Initial this, sign that, staple this and that and wait for about 10 minutes. Then the lady, smiling as she hands me my pass port, say's bye bye, have a good stay. My wife and I both thank her and go out of that room and check my pass port. Granted an extension to September 2007. Retirement stamped into the pass port. No talk of money in the bank, no letter from the bank, as was done on a previous attemt at retirement visa in June 2004. The medical certificate and the 18 month old letter of certification from the embassy as to pension amounts was all she looked at.

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