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Old 19-08-2009, 11:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this a new hoop we must jump through?

Well guys, the wonderful Thai immigration has me all bunged up!! My Visa is up in a few days so I headed down to the office of confusion with two trees worth of papers to satisfy their sadistic tendencies. I thought I was in the home stretch as the lemming was stamping away on all my papers when he told me I need to have my landlord's house registration and fill out a "Notification From the House Master, Owner or Possessor of the Residence Where Alien Has Stayed " form.

I am wondering if any of you have heard of this form before as I have NEVER filled one out before.

Why does this small matter bung me up? My landlord is out of the country until October.

When I politely told him it was not on the list from the immigration he got all uptight and said that all us foreigners always blame the office and it is not his fault.

I am hoping my immigration specialist Thetyim chimes in
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What kind of visa were you going for?
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep, you (or rather your Landlord) has to file a TM30 form showing that you live in his house.
I did one years ago and have never been asked for it but I have kept a copy just in case.

It does beggar the question "why is it the farang's job to make sure that the landlord has done his duty?"
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wasted my whole day AND how can I get it from the landlord being he is out of the country???
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/tm30.doc
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The officer said they need to fill it our and also provide me with a copy of their house registration signed by them.
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Can the landlords wife do it for you?
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*edit*^I think kind of what I'm suggesting....I'm thinking your land lord knows you are staying there and has no problem with that right?? so since there is no record of him signing anything before now it seems, how can they recognize his signature? He's out of country, deal with it when he gets back if necessary? but give them what they're asking for now..
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Can the landlords wife do it for you?
She is with him
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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*edit*^I think kind of what I'm suggesting....I'm thinking your land lord knows you are staying there and has no problem with that right?? so since there is no record of him signing anything before now it seems, how can they recognize his signature? He's out of country, deal with it when he gets back if necessary? but give them what they're asking for now..
Need the house registration too.
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I think this is the same Proof of Residence paper that you need for a driving license.

How about if you temporarily "rent" another place from a land-lord who is present.
I'm sure someone could do this for you for a small consideration.
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I think the officer is being awkward if he wants a TM30 plus ID card and house registration papers.
Nowhere on the TM30 does it say you have to attach anything.

Did you ask if you could submit the TM30 later?
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I think this is the same Proof of Residence paper that you need for a driving license.
Nope, this is different
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Old 19-08-2009, 12:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think the officer is being awkward if he wants a TM30 plus ID card and house registration papers.
Nowhere on the TM30 does it say you have to attach anything.

Did you ask if you could submit the TM30 later?
Yes we did and he said no because all the paperwork will be transferred to the main office and then he will get in trouble. He did say he wants to "help" and that I can be late and not to worry.
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How about if you temporarily "rent" another place from a land-lord who is present.
I'm sure someone could do this for you for a small consideration.
That would work but it will probably be easier and cheaper to give the awkward sod a "tip"
Thats what all this is about I suspect.
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shite!! I see that now, this is a real problem for me too potentially as the owner of our house is Chinese and only comes over once a year just to renew his ownership papers and pay taxes and we never know when that happens as he is very hard to get in touch with.. Fortunately for us I have a back up plan that wouldn't apply to you though unfortunately.. I hope it isn't necessary at all though since my missus company always handles it.. But thanks, as now I'm on guard and won't get blind sided..
Don't envy you your plight..
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Yeah Chi, and then another officer helps you and fines you for being late. Even with a non-imm B up here in you know where, sometimes they ask for the same type of thing even when you're renting an apartment. You might want to consider doing all the processing back in your wife's hometown, then you can use her mother's house registration and just stay in Bkk.
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Yeah Chi, and then another officer helps you and fines you for being late.
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he got all uptight and said that all us foreigners always blame the office and it is not his fault.
I tend to agree with Thetyim based on the answer above when you pressed him.. Squeaky hinge and all that, but in the case of immigration very touchy issue indeed, especially in an office the size of Bangkok..Difficult to be discrete...
Maybe Buggin's advice is the way to go..Though technically it puts you in a tenuous position when you come back on the off chance that anyone were to check...
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Old 19-08-2009, 01:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Though technically it puts you in a tenuous position when you come back on the off chance that anyone were to check...
I don't think it does.
The address you must use is the house you are living in on the day that you apply for an extension.
You don't have to be living there for the full year.

To cover yourself just send in a 90 day report giving your "new" address
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