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Old 18-06-2009, 03:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Could you please just explain this
What I got told by a visa advisor. It used to be around 9k but was increased to I think 10,720 as the mininum amount.

I presume that is close to what you get on benefits over two years.
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^Yep, it says you have to have (or earn) at least the equivalent of being on benefits. The exact amount would depend on situation.
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OK simply

The wife has to be working for the amount of at least 11k a year with evidence of submitted applications for employment at this salary.

i.e. She aint gonna be employed picking peas for 2 pound an hour but getting a proper job

I've got it right?
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You have to be working for that amount.
Your wife's income doesn't come into the application process, as far as I am aware.
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^ Thats easy

I think I read that the wifey cannot claim any benefits for two years. So hypothetically she can do fuck all if she wants as long as I can earn the dosh and she does not claim?

I could still claim for my son and other benefits could I?
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I think I read that the wifey cannot claim any benefits for two years. So hypothetically she can do fuck all if she wants as long as I can earn the dosh and she does not claim?
If wifey works and pays NI contribututions at the end of two years if you stay longer and she gets sick or unemployed she gets access to benefits
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I think I read that the wifey cannot claim any benefits for two years. So hypothetically she can do fuck all if she wants as long as I can earn the dosh and she does not claim?
If wifey works and pays NI contribututions at the end of two years if you stay longer and she gets sick or unemployed she gets access to benefits
What benefits? Since when?
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Yeah, apart from being a bit tetchy, the tree rodent is talking out of his jacksy!

When the wife arrives on a settlement visa, she has no recourse to public funds. If a child or step-child is involved, you can claim the child benefit that you are entitled to and nominate to have it paid into the wifes bank account - assuming your wife opens an account?

No-one will qualify for benefit after 2 years as such. I sort of know where red is coming from, but they would have to start working the day they arrived until precisely 24 months later (and tax years are important here). What is meant is that if the wife successfully applies for ILR after 2 years, she does have recourse to public funds. But any benefits will be means tested, so if you as the hubby are earning, but your missus is on a low wage, its unlikely she'd qualify.

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Yeah, apart from being a bit tetchy, the tree rodent is talking out of his jacksy!

When the wife arrives on a settlement visa, she has no recourse to public funds. If a child or step-child is involved, you can claim the child benefit that you are entitled to and nominate to have it paid into the wifes bank account - assuming your wife opens an account?

No-one will qualify for benefit after 2 years as such. I sort of know where red is coming from, but they would have to start working the day they arrived until precisely 24 months later (and tax years are important here). What is meant is that if the wife successfully applies for ILR after 2 years, she does have recourse to public funds. But any benefits will be means tested, so if you as the hubby are earning, but your missus is on a low wage, its unlikely she'd qualify.
Thats how I understood it. So you have to have ILR, which means £750ish plus life in uk test or Esol certificate, which is another £40 or £180.
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Yeah, apart from being a bit tetchy, the tree rodent is talking out of his jacksy!

When the wife arrives on a settlement visa, she has no recourse to public funds. If a child or step-child is involved, you can claim the child benefit that you are entitled to and nominate to have it paid into the wifes bank account - assuming your wife opens an account?

No-one will qualify for benefit after 2 years as such. I sort of know where red is coming from, but they would have to start working the day they arrived until precisely 24 months later (and tax years are important here). What is meant is that if the wife successfully applies for ILR after 2 years, she does have recourse to public funds. But any benefits will be means tested, so if you as the hubby are earning, but your missus is on a low wage, its unlikely she'd qualify.

Seems it is you who cannot read.

Missus works for ~two years on her settlement visa (26 months now BTW). Pays NI contributions. for two years. Applies for ILR and is accepted.

She is then entitled to claim benefits if she isn't working, or is on the sick.

As long as she has paid those two years of contributions.

Not sure if she can make voluntary contributions or not to entitle her to benefits once the ILR is issued. She might well be able to.

You sir don't appear to know what you are talking about.

If you think otherwise. Quote it and prove it.



Bolded part again known to be wrong. Considering my missus's mate, who is now off on the sick, is being paid sick pay even with her husband making a decent salary.
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Thats how I understood it. So you have to have ILR, which means £750ish plus life in uk test or Esol certificate, which is another £40 or £180.
One would presume that ,r Brown would realise that his visa was up after two years and have to apply for the ILR. Not like she is going to get benefits if she isn't in the country.


ESOL test - interesting thing that. Spent some time looking into it and there are ways around having to do a full course.
As long as they pass a speaking and listening test (skills for life) they can get a certificate for the ILR.

Couple of organisations around the UK doing one week crash courses in test material then getting people tested at the end of the week. ~200 quid
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ESOL test - interesting thing that. Spent some time looking into it and there are ways around having to do a full course.
As long as they pass a speaking and listening test (skills for life) they can get a certificate for the ILR.

Couple of organisations around the UK doing one week crash courses in test material then getting people tested at the end of the week. ~200 quid
Mrs Ast did the Esol course, and found it a little slow to progress. When we asked if there was any way she could get through the course quicker, we were told No can do. The course has to last a certain amount of time and cover specific areas, that are laid down by the government.
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The course has to last a certain amount of time and cover specific areas, that are laid down by the government.
What I initially thought. Then came across a post one another forum about this 1 week course and the test at the end.

Test being the most important bit. Pass the test and you have shown the basics.

Course wise - has to be from one level to another. Which means a full year of work. Not sure if the part time courses ar ethe same length or not. Missus is looking at a part time for the educational side not just the certificate.

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These people do the 1 week thing. Tested by Edexcel I think.
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Course wise - has to be from one level to another. Which means a full year of work. Not sure if the part time courses ar ethe same length or not. Missus is looking at a part time for the educational side not just the certificate.
So far as im aware, the courses are around 5hrs per week, covered over two days or nights. Courses start September, and the exams are in June and January. Mrs ast opted for nights as she was working full time as well. We could have gone the quicker route and taken the Life in the UK test, but as you said mrs was looking for the educational side too.
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She`s already passed, last year.
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Personally can't be assed to get into a slanging match with the rodent. Still don't believe all the man has to say and I did post a link about NiNo's - remember?

Anyway, on ESOL, a lot of us were surprised to learn that there is indeed a 5 day course, that by-passes the usual schooling. It will be shut down at some stage and it appears its only available in one or two areas.

My missus studied EFL rather than ESOL, as that will be more beneficial in LOS. She did the Life in the UK test and passed okay. Its not just about memory, its about learning.
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