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    how you all doing? i`ve just joined this forum and looking for some advice please.i hae read all the threads above and understand that as always thailand makes foreigners lives very difficult and visas aren`t getting any easier to get the hang of,argh! i want to live in thailand soon,with my thai wife and 2 year old daughter,my wife is her mother, and need some help. i would need to start a business there of some sort,i`m thinking maybe a shop selling european groceries, teaching english (have no degree) a british cafe,an ice-cream/coffee bar or exporting thai crafts/clothes/thai goods over the internet.has anybody done this already and have any advice and what is the best visa to try for to be able to stay long-term? does having a thai wife and half thai baby help in any way? my parents are willing to move to thailand soon to retire to be near their grand-daughter and can get retirement visas.my wife and daughter both have thai passports,so unfortunately its only me that has a problem in this department,its quite frutrating.heeelp me please. any advice would be great.thanks

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    Nightvictim, your 'problem' isn't really a problem unless you don't have some kind of proper filled bank account.

    Since you're married to a Thai, you can apply for a non-immigrant O-A marriage visa. Most important requirement: THB 400,000 in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of THB 40,000 (in your name only). Application for this visa has to be done in your home-country and you'll get either a 90 day single or a 365 days multiple entry.

    Opening a business is a possibility, but therefore you should contact a reliable lawyer to assist you or will be able to give you a proper and solid advise. There are some businesses you're not allowed to open/run, but they'll know all about it or even know how to go around the rules.
    If you come to the point of opening a business and being active in it, take care that you apply for a work permit!!

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    help please. I am now in the Philippines but I have been invited to stay in Uttaradit. I want to live in Thailand. I am a UK citizen
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    Robin, there are numerous possibilities to stay in Thailand legally.
    Best way is to contact/visit the Thai Embassy/Consulate in Manilla and ask them for assistance.

    It all depends on your personal circumstances: age, marital status, income/finances, planned activities (labor wise).

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    Anyone know if the incoming government has a stated policy on PR? Seems both PPP and the Dems didn't touch it. Dormant since the Coup. No applications processed and apparently no announced applications for 2011 (did they even have an application process in 2010?)

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    Visa Treatise

    I think I speak for all the newcomers in saying, this item is very well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Nomenclature for types of visa and permissions to stay for Thailand.

    The basic entry/visa types of interest to most readers are listed below. For full information you may want to read the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Website

    Initially, we will attempt to explain the differences between visas and ‘permission to stay’ stamps. These are often confused.

    A visa is fundamentally a document (affixed into the passport) issued to a foreigner by the Thai government allowing said foreigner to travel to the Kingdom and normally be granted permission to stay for a prescribed period. Visas can only be obtained outside of the Kingdom from a Royal Thai Embassy/Consulate (usually). A visa has a validity period which denotes the period within which the visa may be used to apply for entry. The validity period is NOT the length of time you will be permitted to stay in the Kingdom using said visa.

    A ‘permission to stay’ stamp is entered into your passport upon arrival into the Kingdom. Whatever visa you hold, you will always receive this stamp. It will include the date of entry and date when you MUST leave the Kingdom or make alternative arrangements. The ‘length of stay’ will be dependent on what type of visa one holds. Once inside the Kingdom, this stamp is vital, your visa is now effectively irrelevant until you re-enter the country.

    30 or 15 day TVE entry stamp : for the majority of passport holders, this is a 'permission to stay' stamp only obtained (free of charge) at a port of entry into the Kingdom and is issued without the need for a visa. 30 days issued at airports and 15 days issued at land borders. At the discretion of the immigration officer this may be extended for up to 7-15 days at an immigration office after which time the holder must leave the Kingdom. This is NOT a visa.

    3 month validity, single entry tourist visa: pre-obtained at a Royal Thai Embassy/Consulate and will result in the holder obtaining a 60 day 'permission to stay' stamp upon entry. If required, this type of visa may be extended by 30 days at an immigration office, but after that time the holder must leave the country. After one entry, the visa is “used”.

    6 month validity, 2 to 4 entry tourist visa: pre-obtained at a Royal Thai Embassy/Consulate and will result in the holder obtaining a 60 day 'permission to stay' stamp upon entry if from a 30 day visa exempt entry country (listed below) or 30 days if not. If required, this type of visa may normally be extended by 30 days at an immigration office, but after that time the holder must leave the country. The holder may then return to the Kingdom and will obtain a second 60 day 'permission to stay' stamp which can also be extended as previous and then the holder must leave. After the stipulated number of entries the visa is “used”.

    3 month validity, single entry non-immigrant visa: pre-obtained at a Royal Thai Embassy/Consulate and will result in the holder obtaining a 90 day 'permission to stay' stamp. This visa can be extended up to one year for specific reasons and with the required documentation (see 12 month extensions).

    12 month validity, multi entry non-immigrant visa: pre-obtained at a Royal Thai Embassy/Consulate (usually) in your home country and will result in the holder obtaining a 90 day 'permission to stay' stamp upon entry. Each time the holder enters the Kingdom whilst the visa is valid, he/she will obtain a further 90 day 'permission to stay stamp'. Such visas can be issued for students/work/family etc. but normally require supporting documentation. This visa can also be extended up to one year for specific reasons and with the required documentation (see 12 month extensions).

    Note: a 12 month validity, multi entry non-immigrant visa may also be obtained from some Royal Thai embassies outside your home country if you can provide evidence of your marriage to a Thai citizen (marriage certificate).

    12 month extension of stay with a non-immigrant visa: If you are holding a non-immigrant visa, you have the option of extending your stay by 12 months based on either retirement (50 years old or over) or support to a Thai citizen, work, education and such. This may only be accomplished at an immigration office inside the Kingdom and certain criteria have to be met. Such extensions consist of a stamp in your passport detailing “issue date” and “permitted to stay until” date.

    Note 1: If you are residing in the Kingdom under an extension and wish to leave the Kingdom at any time, then you will need to obtain a “re-entry permit” to avoid losing the extension and the subsequent need to re-apply (i.e. applying for a new non-immigrant visa and then extension of stay).

    Note 2: If you are residing in the Kingdom under an extension of stay it is a legal requirement that the holder reports current address to an immigration office using form TM.47 (in person or by registered mail) every 90 days. Re-entering the Kingdom is the equivalent of a 90 day report.

    Note 3: If you are in possession of a valid tourist visa or a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp and qualify for extension of stay and plan on doing so, you may be permitted to change to a non-immigrant visa at an immigration office inside Thailand. This change of 'status' has certain restrictions depending on your particular circumstances therefore you should check with an immigration officer first.

    The information given above is for guideline purposes only. Each individual’s circumstances may differ to such an extent that a definitive description of the procedures involved is virtually impossible to present. And, the final decision on visa application/issue or entry into the Kingdom will always be at the discretion of the immigration officer.

    List of visa exempt countries (September 2007):

    Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Brunei, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Oman, Philippines, Portugal, Qatar, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United States of America, United Kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Note 3: If you are in possession of a valid tourist visa or a 30 day visa exempt entry stamp and qualify for extension of stay and plan on doing so, you may be permitted to change to a non-immigrant visa at an immigration office inside Thailand. This change of 'status' has certain restrictions depending on your particular circumstances therefore you should check with an immigration officer first.
    Not possible any more to convert from tourist visa to non-immigrant visa in Koh Samui, may be a rule change that applies to all immigration offices.

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    Great information on this thread and I just want to verify something on an "O" visa. I have obtained an "O" Non-Immigrant visa for the Thai Consulated here in the US. It currently requires me to leave the country every 90 days and reenter Thailand to start the 90 days over again. It is a 1 year multiple entry so I just want to make sure I can file for a 1 year extension which allows me to skip the leaving every 90 days. I still need to report in at the immigration office either in person or post, but do not have to leave and then come back correct? Also, can I continue filing extensions on the same "O" visa? I think the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Great information on this thread and I just want to verify something on an "O" visa. I have obtained an "O" Non-Immigrant visa for the Thai Consulated here in the US. It currently requires me to leave the country every 90 days and reenter Thailand to start the 90 days over again. It is a 1 year multiple entry so I just want to make sure I can file for a 1 year extension which allows me to skip the leaving every 90 days. I still need to report in at the immigration office either in person or post, but do not have to leave and then come back correct? Also, can I continue filing extensions on the same "O" visa? I think the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure.
    Yes.

    The Udon office are pretty helpful nowadays, so you're lucky in that respect. Just tell them what you intend to do and they should point you in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Also, can I continue filing extensions on the same "O" visa? I think the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure.
    Yes.
    My visa expired 15 years ago.
    I just get an extension every year at immigration and do my 90 day reports by post.

    Providing you qualify for an extension of stay then you can do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post




    Note 1: If you are residing in the Kingdom under an extension and wish to leave the Kingdom at any time, then you will need to obtain a “re-entry permit” to avoid losing the extension and the subsequent need to re-apply (i.e. applying for a new non-immigrant visa and then extension of stay).
    A multiple entry extension can also be gained thus the need for a re-entry stamp can be avoided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles
    A multiple entry extension can also be gained
    Linky ?


    I think you are talking about a multiple entry re-entry permit
    Last edited by Thetyim; 28-08-2011 at 12:11 PM.

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    Thanks for confirming that Marmite and Thetyim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles
    A multiple entry extension can also be gained
    Linky ?


    I think you are talking about a multiple entry re-entry permit
    Just checked my passport, yep it is a multi re-entry stamp and was given at the same time my extension was done hence I thought incorrectly that it was the extension its self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Also, can I continue filing extensions on the same "O" visa? I think the answer is yes, but I just want to make sure.
    Yes.
    My visa expired 15 years ago.
    I just get an extension every year at immigration and do my 90 day reports by post.

    Providing you qualify for an extension of stay then you can do the same thing.

    so you don't need to have loads of money in the bank for that? just the same as getting the original non "O"? and you need an exit permit if you want to leave and come back?

    or have you converted to a retirement visa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    so you don't need to have loads of money in the bank for that? just the same as getting the original non "O"? and you need an exit permit if you want to leave and come back? ?
    Yes Andy, for some reason this year the immigration guys wanted to see my original visa and as I have been on an extension of stay a long time. Well after days of looking I found it in a 21 year old passport a non immigrant visa issued out of Washington DC in Dec of 1991. That made them happy and the new extension was quickly granted. Then I just buy the re-entry permits as necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    so you don't need to have loads of money in the bank for that?
    Yes I have to show money in the bank and/or proof of income
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    you need an exit permit if you want to leave and come back?
    yes

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    so your original Non "O" 1 year was not the type you have to leave every 90 days, but a retirement visa, or equivalent?

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    No.
    I have never had a retirement visa.

    My original visa was a multi entry O visa which gave me a 90 day permission to stay.

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    I would rather them have as little information about me as possible. Better to stick with going in and out every 90 days in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    No.
    I have never had a retirement visa.

    My original visa was a multi entry O visa which gave me a 90 day permission to stay.
    I hadn't realised that you could convert that to a 1 year with reporting

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    I would rather them have as little information about me as possible. Better to stick with going in and out every 90 days in my opinion.

    yeah, a nice tedious day out unless you live near a border

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    yeah, a nice tedious day out unless you live near a border
    Not really. A few days trip somewhere is not so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    No.
    I have never had a retirement visa.

    My original visa was a multi entry O visa which gave me a 90 day permission to stay.
    I hadn't realised that you could convert that to a 1 year with reporting
    This is exactly what I was clearing up with others. My plan is to use my "O" visa to enter and about a month later go to the immigration office in Udon and extend it to one year. This is what Thetyim and Marmite have been doing for over a decade. It eliminates the runs out every 90 days but you still have to report in which can now be done by post. Much easier for me since I have a little one and do not wish to keep going across the border every 90 days to start the clock over again. Also, you should not have to leave the country to obtain another "O" visa when the current one runs out.
    I don't care if I have to give them some information as long as I don't have to keep leaving the country and spend more money.

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    Luckily I only turn up in Thailand and stay for 5/6 months, so only need to do the visa run once

    otherwise what you suggest sounds good

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