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CharleyFarley

My wife wants to travel to Europe but her UK passport has expired. She could get a Thai passport ( she has a Thai Id ) but would need to get a Schengen visa .

If she exits here on a new UK passport will she get charged for overstay as she hasn't bothered with visas because her Thai Id is good.

My question is how to get out of Thailand and into Europe with the least hassle?

Schengen visa 42 quid
UK passport 7,735 Baht
Thai passport 1200 baht
Max overstay fine 20K baht

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oldgit

I would have said renew both Thai and UK Passports, problem solved. last month immigration at LOS wanted to see ILR in my Wifes passport when leaving LOS luckily she had all three passports, have been told since she could have shown the Brit Passport.

klongmaster

Yep: exit on her Thai passport then enter uk on her uk passport...

CharleyFarley

^ that means applying for a Schengen visa then ?

reinvented

dont think so
if she has a brit passport

CharleyFarley

Sorry to be dumb about this, but if she shoes up with a ticket for a European country without appropiate visa (in her Thai passport ) will they let her on the plane, or does she just show her UK passport which nullifies the visa requirement?

kingwilly

wont be allowed to leave without visiting main immagration centre prior.

Because no entry visa will be in passport.

Spin

I though holders of valid UK passports could go into any ec country without a visa?

Bobcock

Enter / leave Europe on a European passport (Yes Brits are europeans)

Enter / leave Thailand on a Thai passport

Easy really. Visas never required.

Just show the UK passport to the airline at check in to show that entry to Europe is no problem.

We had fun once, we were leaving the UK just after the July bombings in 2005.

Security at LHR was very strong. In the queue we looked at my youngest sons UK passport and realised it was out of date. Quickly pulled out his Thai passport (we were two from the fron when we noticed) and handed that. They never said a word about him not having any entry into the UK in that passport.

Phew!!

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kingwilly

Can, what I meant was that without a thai entry stamp into your passport you will have problems leaving thailand.....

well at least I did, was not allowed to leave the country.

Spin

^ Ah I see, Thai entry stamp. jolly good, carry on.....

Bobcock

One thing is for sure, she should not leave on her UK passport.

As said, she should renew her UK, get a Thai and never ever use her UK in Thailand again.

Carnwadrick

Ok if she uses her UK at airline check-in her Thai with boarding pass at Immi. then UK to board the plane and UK at EU does she use her UK/EU or Thai to ..wait a minute?? maybe better start over

phunphin

I use my UK passport for entering/leaving thailand as it has all my thai visa's in it. only use my NZ PP for coming and going from nz.
have never had to show a departure stamp from thailand in my NZ PP.

Spin

Could you explain to folks who might be reading this why this is so? (I have no idea too!)

CharleyFarley

^ agree

So exiting Thailand with Thai pasport to show Immigration ...OK no overstay questions.


Show airline UK passport to prove no visa reqiuired.
Exit Thailand on Thai pp
Land Europe with UK pp
exit Europe ditto
Enter Thailand with Thai pp

Dunno about marrying up all the exit & entry stamps tho.

Patrick

At Thai Immigration at the Airport, they will only need to see her Thai Passport - very rarely does Imigration ask to see a Visa for the detsination Country or some evidence that she could enter UK, it's not their job, all they are checking is that the passenger was in Thailand legally - which a Thai Passport obviously proves.

You will need to show both Passports to the Staff at Check-in and later at Boarding because it is their responsibility to ensure that the passenger can enter UK when the flight arrives. I am not sure, however, if they would accept an expired Passport as evidence and in any case it would not be accepted at UK Immigration so it you should have it renewed in Thailand before you leave - it takes 6 - 10 working days.

I am assuming she entered Thailand on her British Passport, which is wrong, because she will have an Entry Stamp which has to be matched with an Exit Stamp. If for some reason she tried to re-enter Thailand in future with that British Passport she might have problems because she has no Exit Stamp countering the Entry Stamp; luckily the British Passport has expired. It will probably show up on the Immigration Computer system which is another reason not to use the British Passport to enter Thailand in future.

Always enter and leave Thailand on the Thai Passport, if she uses her British Passport she is limited to how long she can stay without getting a Visa extension or whatever.

Patrick

CharleyFarley

^.Excellent thank you

Bobcock

Thai Immigration is not an issue. The airline check in is. Airlines get fined for allowing people onto flights without the correct paperwork to enter their destination.

Because the opening poster seems to be saying that she entered here on it. She has now overstayed and will be fined. the passport has expired which makes it even worse. Enetering Thailand on a Thai passport is a piece of piss so get one and do not use the UK one here again.

that's how I'd do it anyway.

CharleyFarley

Yes she did enteer on a UK pp, but since she has acquired a Thai ID she hasn't bothered with visas here anymore.

When she exits on her shiny new Thai pp will Imm connect her name with her entry on the expired UKpp 6 years previously?

The name on her UK pp is / will be different to the name on her Thai pp / ID.