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Thetyim · 12-02-2008, 12:13 PM

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I think he means show the airline not show immigration

BobbyTits · 12-02-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

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Originally Posted by BobbyTits

still needs to show the UK passport to get out of Thailand being able to prove the child can get into the UK

Bullshit.

Can Thai people with a Thai passport travel to the UK without showing a UK Visa stamped inside ?

The UK passport needs to be produced so the immigration clowns know the child can gain entry into the country.

Marmite the Dog · 12-02-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetyim

I think he means show the airline not show immigration

Yes, the airlines often want to see proof that they're not going to have to fly you all the way back again, but immigration will never require that info.

smilermike2006 · 12-02-2008, 02:50 PM

When she leaves thailand, yes they will stamp the uk passport out, but, if i have already obtained a thai passport before leaving, that will have no stamp in it when she leaves the country , so when she returns to thailand they will se no stamp in the thai passport for leaving thailand, so what will they do then? will they ask for the uk one again and stamp that with a 1month visa again?? Just seems like a never ending circle with no way of ending it. Comon lads you must all be up on this, or at least know someone who can give good advice.
The only way i know is that she leaves thailand on uk passport and then applies for a Thai passort in the uk and returns on that, but this takes 6 weeks to get and my wife cant stay that long in uk due to work,
rack your brains lads,there must be a way i am overlooking, this has to come to a good end

BobbyTits · 12-02-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetyim

I think he means show the airline not show immigration

Yes, the airlines often want to see proof that they're not going to have to fly you all the way back again, but immigration will never require that info.

You are wrong.

I have kids here with two passports each.

Somchai the immigration monkey asks to see your boarding pass along with your passport ( remember that part?) When the kids Thai passports are produced for departure you will be asked how they will be allowed to enter said country w/o the VERY FOKING HARD TO GET VISA FOR THAI PEOPLE TO ENTER THE UK or USA in my case.

Somchai is then told they have dual passports , Somchai then asks to see them to confirm this as SOMCHAI DOES NOT LET PEOPLE LEAVE HIS BELOVED FOKING KINGDOM W/O HIS GODFORSAKEN LITTLE PERMISSION.

Normally it is best for the Thai wife to do this as Somchai is a small minded cnut. But it is allowed for kids to do this at the present moment.

Marmite the Dog · 12-02-2008, 03:21 PM

^ Maybe they just like giving shit to rude farangs?

BobbyTits · 12-02-2008, 03:22 PM

^ Maybe you should admit you do not know what the fok you are talking about ?

smilermike2006 · 12-02-2008, 03:26 PM

Ok, the trouble with just getting a thai passport is that.. i get one in Thailand ..easy, but they tell me i must leave the country with her and get stamped out on uk one and then apply for a Thai passport outside of the country, to be able to come back into the country with it, as it wont have an exit stamp on it which takes 6 weeks so sohe will have to be out of the country for that amount of time, and i or my wife cant do that, it seems that immigration and the thai embassy sing the same song but different. All of these problems because of a jobs worth with a rubber stamp. any ideas???

oldgit · 12-02-2008, 03:32 PM

Asked Lopbury 3 on TV a while back and got this reply:

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Hi Lopburi 3,
Myself and our Four year old daughter have UK passports as she was born in UK, The question is, if I want more than the 30 days visa I can do the border run, would I have to take the daughter also? I read somewhere young children are exempt from paying at the airport for overstaying visa, so maybe I do not have to renew her visa also yes/no?

Children will not be charged overstay (no) but:

a - Child should obtain a Thai passport and then make entry/exit of Thailand using that. Best to do this now so she does not have to search for documentations later on in life if she decided to make her home here.

b - If you may travel more than infrequently or for a longer period you might want to obtain a multi entry non immigrant O visa rather than depend on the 30 day stay stamp - but if you keep using the 30 day stamp watch your return flight to make sure it is booked during that 30 days to avoid any airline problems.

BobbyTits · 12-02-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smilermike2006

Hi, my daughter is Thai born and when she was 3 weeks old i got her a uk passport and took her and my wife to uk for 3 months.( yes i know i should have got a thai passport also, didnt know at the time)
When her mum (thai) took her back to thailand, they stamped her passport with a 1 month visa,, even tho' they knew she was Thai.and they saw her birth certificate
My wife went to immigration later on (about 3 months after) and they said "dont worry about it cause she is only a child," . but i am worried that when she comes over in 6 months time they will want a fortune at the airport.
Now just recently, we have lost her uk passport , and are in the middle of getting a replacement. But when we get that, there wont be a visa in there, Do i go to immigration and ask them to stamp the old one in there? will all immigration have this on computer?
This is a nightmare for me as i am still in uk and just worrying daily about this.
Can anyone help me with some info please.
What to do???
In my mind its easy for an immigration person in an office to say dont worry about it, cause they are not there when we get to the airport.
Am i going to get fined or are they going to say dont worry and stamp it out, or are they going to throw the book at me??
HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP please !!

You have a Thai birth certificate correct and your wife will be with your child ?

If this is the case I would not overly worry about the situation and the immigration people seem pretty OK once they know the kids are also Thai citizens.

Driventowin · 12-02-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyTits

^ Maybe you should admit you do not know what the fok you are talking about ?

Ever heard of hell freezing over???

buriramboy · 12-02-2008, 03:49 PM

Basically , kids under 14 are not charged overstay, but as others have stated get your kid 2 passports to avoid future problems as only obtaining a Thai passport will mean you having to apply for a visa in his/her passport to enter the UK. A Thai passport takes about a week, you need the kids birth certificate, photos are taken at the passport office so you have no excuse not to go and get one. For replacing the lost British Passport at the British Embassy you will need a letter from the Thai police first stating it has been lost/stolen, personaly when you obtain a new British passport i would still go along to immigration with it if you are going to be staying in Thailand for a while longer, if not just take both passports to the airport with you when you leave as you will need the UK one at the check in desk then use the Thai one at Thai immigration, then the Uk one when entering Britain.

robuzo · 12-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Get the kid a Thai passport straightaway. It's easy. Use that to get out and back into Thai. If they demand to see the British passport, show them- you'll have it with anyway.

tsicar · 12-02-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

I don't think there's a problem. A Thai citizen can't overstay in their own country.

no, they cannot overstay if they are thai, but if they travel on a different country's passport, they can overstay.
good news is that at the exit point, they note the overstay, and make a big fuss over it, but you only need to point out that children under the age of fourteen DO NOT have to pay the fine, whether they are thai or not. the rules may have changed in this regard since i left thailand a year ago, but i am pretty sure that this is still the case

tsicar · 12-02-2008, 07:22 PM

[quote=DrAndy;532031][quote=Ivor Biggun;532018]

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Originally Posted by Gerbil

Kids are exempt from fines I think.quote]

I thought Tsicar was quite old, not a kid

tsicar is NOT "quite old". tsicar is still a 49 year old KID.
i thought everybody who read my posts would know that by now!

good2bhappy · 13-02-2008, 03:50 PM

Good luck

smilermike2006 · 17-02-2008, 08:52 PM

thank you all for the info! i will let you know how i got on

Missismiggins · 31-07-2008, 11:49 AM

The "cleanest " way to sort this out is first, get a Thai passport, take the Thai passport and the UK passport to the British Consul/Embassy and apply for "right of abode" they will put a sticker in your kid's Thai passport showing right of abode, never again will you need to show the UK passport te leave or enter Thailand.

It is a free stamp, you may however need (cannot remember) to have a UK birth registration, however, I expect that this is just a scam by the UK to screw you out of a few thousand baht.

Bobcock · 31-07-2008, 11:56 AM

My kids overstayed once. Not an issue, the immigration guys joked with them and smiled a lot then sent them on their way. That was on UK passports, before they even had their Thai ones.

12-02-2008, 02:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
smilermike2006 Pattaya Last Online: 19-02-2008 11:25 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	in answer to some of the replies When she leaves thailand, yes they will stamp the uk passport out, but, if i have already obtained a thai passport before leaving, that will have no stamp in it when she leaves the country , so when she returns to thailand they will se no stamp in the thai passport for leaving thailand, so what will they do then? will they ask for the uk one again and stamp that with a 1month visa again?? Just seems like a never ending circle with no way of ending it. Comon lads you must all be up on this, or at least know someone who can give good advice. The only way i know is that she leaves thailand on uk passport and then applies for a Thai passort in the uk and returns on that, but this takes 6 weeks to get and my wife cant stay that long in uk due to work, rack your brains lads,there must be a way i am overlooking, this has to come to a good end

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12-02-2008, 12:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
Thetyim Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phrae Posts: 12,210	^ I think he means show the airline not show immigration

12-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
Marmite the Dog Too drunk to fuck Last Online: Yesterday 10:51 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fuckwitistan Posts: 25,890	^ Maybe they just like giving shit to rude farangs?

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BobbyTits I am in Jail Last Online: 21-08-2008 01:02 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 561	^ Maybe you should admit you do not know what the fok you are talking about ?

12-02-2008, 03:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
smilermike2006 Pattaya Last Online: 19-02-2008 11:25 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	Ok, the trouble with just getting a thai passport is that.. i get one in Thailand ..easy, but they tell me i must leave the country with her and get stamped out on uk one and then apply for a Thai passport outside of the country, to be able to come back into the country with it, as it wont have an exit stamp on it which takes 6 weeks so sohe will have to be out of the country for that amount of time, and i or my wife cant do that, it seems that immigration and the thai embassy sing the same song but different. All of these problems because of a jobs worth with a rubber stamp. any ideas???

12-02-2008, 03:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
buriramboy Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 10:41 PM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nern Plub Waan Posts: 1,931	Basically , kids under 14 are not charged overstay, but as others have stated get your kid 2 passports to avoid future problems as only obtaining a Thai passport will mean you having to apply for a visa in his/her passport to enter the UK. A Thai passport takes about a week, you need the kids birth certificate, photos are taken at the passport office so you have no excuse not to go and get one. For replacing the lost British Passport at the British Embassy you will need a letter from the Thai police first stating it has been lost/stolen, personaly when you obtain a new British passport i would still go along to immigration with it if you are going to be staying in Thailand for a while longer, if not just take both passports to the airport with you when you leave as you will need the UK one at the check in desk then use the Thai one at Thai immigration, then the Uk one when entering Britain.

12-02-2008, 04:55 PM	#33 (permalink)
robuzo Saraburi Last Online: Yesterday 08:47 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: BKK Posts: 269	Get the kid a Thai passport straightaway. It's easy. Use that to get out and back into Thai. If they demand to see the British passport, show them- you'll have it with anyway.

13-02-2008, 03:50 PM	#36 (permalink)
good2bhappy Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 11:44 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Klong Samwa Posts: 5,304	Good luck

17-02-2008, 08:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
smilermike2006 Pattaya Last Online: 19-02-2008 11:25 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	thank you all for the info! i will let you know how i got on

31-07-2008, 11:49 AM	#38 (permalink)
Missismiggins Kap Choeng Last Online: Yesterday 09:02 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Where Alcohol has become free Posts: 509	The "cleanest " way to sort this out is first, get a Thai passport, take the Thai passport and the UK passport to the British Consul/Embassy and apply for "right of abode" they will put a sticker in your kid's Thai passport showing right of abode, never again will you need to show the UK passport te leave or enter Thailand. It is a free stamp, you may however need (cannot remember) to have a UK birth registration, however, I expect that this is just a scam by the UK to screw you out of a few thousand baht.

31-07-2008, 11:56 AM	#39 (permalink)
Bobcock Llandewi Brefi's Finest Last Online: Yesterday 11:33 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,258	My kids overstayed once. Not an issue, the immigration guys joked with them and smiled a lot then sent them on their way. That was on UK passports, before they even had their Thai ones.

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