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Thai Visas and Visa Runs Tell us about your Thailand visa run experience. Where is the best place to get a visa for Thailand? What paperwork did you need for a Thai Non Immigrant Visa? Where can you get Thai Multiple Entry Visas? Is a Retirement Visa that difficult to get? Want to take your Thai Girlfriend back to the UK? Also for questions on visas to other countries.

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Old 02-02-2008, 08:22 PM   #41 (permalink)
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^ too true - Thailand is just a doss hole for cheap whores and little else.
Yet you still stay. Muppet.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:38 PM   #42 (permalink)
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The Thais have a looong tradition of making it very difficult for foreigners to establish any kind of permanent or long-term foothold on sacred Thai soil. It goes back centuries, when the first European traders were even forbidden from living on dry land (they basically had to live on their ships). The mentality is not going to change much this side of Armageddon, either.
I beg to differ. It's not the Thais who are running the show.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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So, not official at all in other words. I'll just file this under 'bollocks' then.
FACT: It was their stated policy to reduce the amount of foreigners staying in Thailand on 30 day entry stamps. A stated policy written, which you can find online, to reduce the number of foreigners living in Thailand. It was initially effective now they will go after tourist visas and possibly Non-Imms.

FACT: The Labour Dept. have been instructed to reduce the some 1,500 new work permits issued monthly to foreigners in order to keep the numbers down. There are some 150,000 active foreigners with work permits in Thailand.

FACT: Neighbouring Thai Embassies and Consulates have been instructed not to issue certain visas, not to issue visas at all and some to refuse visas to foreigners who appear to be staying permanently in Thailand on tourist visas and entry stamps.

FACT: The FBA, which IMO will come into force soon whether we like it or not, is to discourage foreigners from doing business in Thailand. While you could argue this is not directly aimed at reducing the number of foreigners in Thailand it is certainly conducive.

FACT: The Investment visa was scrapped showing conclusively that money was not a concern and even foreigners with money, willing to invest in Thailand are still not welcome to stay here on a long term basis.

FACT: The TAT's continuing campaign to bring a "better class of tourist" to Thailand. In other words, they want fewer foreigners that stay a short time and spend more money. Again, policy.

I could go on, but to argue that it is not Government policy in the face of irrefutable evidence seems rather foolish.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:15 AM   #44 (permalink)
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FACT: It was their stated policy to reduce the amount of foreigners staying in Thailand on 30 day entry stamps. A stated policy written, which you can find online, to reduce the number of foreigners living in Thailand. It was initially effective now they will go after tourist visas and possibly Non-Imms.
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FACT: Neighbouring Thai Embassies and Consulates have been instructed not to issue certain visas, not to issue visas at all and some to refuse visas to foreigners who appear to be staying permanently in Thailand on tourist visas and entry stamps.
A tourist is not a resident. If someone is foolish enough to believe they are 'living' here on the basis of that or 30 day stamps, then they are in for a long overdue wakeup.

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FACT: The FBA, which IMO will come into force soon whether we like it or not, is to discourage foreigners from doing business in Thailand. While you could argue this is not directly aimed at reducing the number of foreigners in Thailand it is certainly conducive.
The FBA is already in force (since 2000 when it replaced the 1972 Alien Business Law) You're refering to legislation to modify that which was introduced by the last government but was never completed. That's not to say something similar won't be reintroduced.

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FACT: The Investment visa was scrapped showing conclusively that money was not a concern and even foreigners with money, willing to invest in Thailand are still not welcome to stay here on a long term basis.
It could be argued that this was scrapped to make room for the 'Elite card' scheme. I wouldnt make that claim as I don't have the facts to back it up.

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FACT: The Labour Dept. have been instructed to reduce the some 1,500 new work permits issued monthly to foreigners in order to keep the numbers down. There are some 150,000 active foreigners with work permits in Thailand.
Link please?

You claim it's offical government policy that "there are too many foreigners living in Thailand", yet you are unable to substantiate that claim with a specific verifiable link. Instead you prefer to extrapolate an opinion based on hearsay.

I'd stick to doing movie reviews if I were you. You were at least partly amusing there.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:57 AM   #45 (permalink)
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FACT: It was their stated policy to reduce the amount of foreigners staying in Thailand on 30 day entry stamps. A stated policy written, which you can find online, to reduce the number of foreigners living in Thailand. It was initially effective now they will go after tourist visas and possibly Non-Imms.
Link please?

You honestly shouldn't need a link to something that was so widely publicised and just introduced in October 2006. It's pretty much well documented here and on other forums. I'm surprised it escaped your attention.

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FACT: Neighbouring Thai Embassies and Consulates have been instructed not to issue certain visas, not to issue visas at all and some to refuse visas to foreigners who appear to be staying permanently in Thailand on tourist visas and entry stamps.
A tourist is not a resident. If someone is foolish enough to believe they are 'living' here on the basis of that or 30 day stamps, then they are in for a long overdue wakeup.

Of course a tourist is not a resident however many people were living on tourist visas and visa-free entry stamps for many years. Government policy was and is to reduce and eventually eradicate that number.

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FACT: The FBA, which IMO will come into force soon whether we like it or not, is to discourage foreigners from doing business in Thailand. While you could argue this is not directly aimed at reducing the number of foreigners in Thailand it is certainly conducive.
The FBA is already in force (since 2000 when it replaced the 1972 Alien Business Law) You're refering to legislation to modify that which was introduced by the last government but was never completed. That's not to say something similar won't be reintroduced.

Nit picking really. The point is valid.
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FACT: The Investment visa was scrapped showing conclusively that money was not a concern and even foreigners with money, willing to invest in Thailand are still not welcome to stay here on a long term basis.
It could be argued that this was scrapped to make room for the 'Elite card' scheme. I wouldnt make that claim as I don't have the facts to back it up.

It could be argued but the bottom line is the same; it serves to reduce the number of ways foreigners can legitimately stay in Thailand.

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FACT: The Labour Dept. have been instructed to reduce the some 1,500 new work permits issued monthly to foreigners in order to keep the numbers down. There are some 150,000 active foreigners with work permits in Thailand.
Link please?

Again, widely publicised and continuing Labour Dept. policy.

You claim it's offical government policy that "there are too many foreigners living in Thailand", yet you are unable to substantiate that claim with a specific verifiable link. Instead you prefer to extrapolate an opinion based on hearsay.

Policy is a sum of the laws being introduced and those laws are irrefutably aimed at reducing and restricting the number of Western foreigners living in Thailand.

I'd stick to doing movie reviews if I were you. You were at least partly amusing there.

Save the wee digs and snide remarks for MKP where they belong pal.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:04 AM   #46 (permalink)
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^ So you still can't come up with any actual links? Just vague references to 'other forums' - hardly official mouthpieces are they? No links to any government websites? Immigration department? Labout department? No?

Thought not.
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^ So you still can't come up with any actual links? Just vague references to 'other forums' - hardly official mouthpieces are they? No links to any government websites? Immigration department? Labout department? No?

Thought not.
You're clutching at straws.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:50 AM   #48 (permalink)
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^ So you still can't come up with any actual links? Just vague references to 'other forums' - hardly official mouthpieces are they? No links to any government websites? Immigration department? Labout department? No?

Thought not.
You're clutching at straws.
You're the one who claimed it was official policy, yet can't seem to come up with any links to backup your claim.

When you do, feel free to share.
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:37 AM   #49 (permalink)
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^ So you still can't come up with any actual links? Just vague references to 'other forums' - hardly official mouthpieces are they? No links to any government websites? Immigration department? Labout department? No?

Thought not.
You're clutching at straws.
You're the one who claimed it was official policy, yet can't seem to come up with any links to backup your claim.

When you do, feel free to share.
Links to what? The laws are been enacted and some are now being enforced. Evidence enough to assess Government policy.

You seem to completely ignore the solid evidence I have given to support that reducing the number of foreigners in Thailand is Government policy, yet incredulously, have provided absolutely no evidence to the contrary!
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The immigration in Denmark wont let my wife stay in Denmark.......
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Why is that?
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You seem to completely ignore the solid evidence I have given to support
Still waiting for a link for any of this 'solid evidence' you claim to have given.

If you can't come up with any, why not just admit you're wrong? It doesnt hurt you know.
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The notice also states that you maybe required to show 20,000baht as a single traveler, or 45,000baht as a family group, it also states that they may also request other documents, this is for a Tourist visa to enter Thailand.
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I ask myself more an more often what will happen if they stop this retirement visa that is somehow not more than a longer tourist visa and what happens if they introduce the 180 day rule that you have for instance in USA and Europe. This rule means that you cannot stay longer in the country than 180 days a year if you do not have very special visas like for jobs.

The problem for us is a bit that they can change whatever rule they want AT ANY time. We have no rights and they have no obligations.
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^ too true - Thailand is just a doss hole for cheap whores and little else.
Yet you still stay. Muppet.

For 1 year yes, then I'm off.

A year of cheap pussy hardly makes one a muppet.
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i usually get a 1 year cat o non imm in the uk,its been good to go since 2002, no problems never, not one.
is this going to change?
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Don't know it happened but I have a 15 month retirement visa !!!

Was on a Penang 2 month thingy and went to get a months extensoin before I started on he Ranong run for the next 3 months.

Got a 3 month "O" visa - inside Thailand without going out to an external embassy or whatever - with a 12 month retirement visa running consecutavley.

All stamped up and legal from the Main Immigration office in Phuket .
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The immigration in Denmark wont let my wife stay in Denmark.......
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Why is that?
That is because Denmark have the strictest immigration law in the EU.
I'm not going to bore you all to death with all the laws.
It is all about money!
If you are just a normal worker, with an average salary, and you are married to a person from outside of the EU. Then forget about staying in Denmark.
That is what happens when a country have a minority government with support from the fare right.
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Thai immigration might be the most phucked up buracracy I've ever witnessed. I'm sure there are worse, but I've never seen one.

I take it you have no experience with the American Immigration system. Sadly, it makes the Thai system look like a well-oiled machine.