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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    GRANDFATHER RULE
    Anyone know whether the 'Grandfather Rule' only applies if a 'Retirement Extension' has been obtained EVERY year other than maybe once or twice when a 'Marriage Extension' has been got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Anyone know whether the 'Grandfather Rule' only applies if a 'Retirement Extension' has been obtained EVERY year other than maybe once or twice when a 'Marriage Extension' has been got?
    What is it you don't understand in "continually on a retirement visa since" ?

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    If/ when I move back to Thailand I've still failed to read anything that would convince me to do anything different to what I did before as in a one year multi entry non imm O or B obtained outside of Thailand and a nice trip out the mad house every 3 months or day trip to Cambo or Laos border and I could happily meet the financial requirements for a 1 year obtained in country.

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    I think anyone really concerned about all these changes just go to YouTube and listen to all the asshats and wankers that have all the answers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    What is it you don't understand in "continually on a retirement visa since" ?
    Cuz in 2007/8 they had an extension based on being supported by a Thai child. I got one but they cancelled that extension fairly quickly as farang didn't have to show money. I can't remember if they cancelled it before or after 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    If/ when I move back to Thailand I've still failed to read anything that would convince me to do anything different to what I did before as in a one year multi entry non imm O or B obtained outside of Thailand and a nice trip out the mad house every 3 months or day trip to Cambo or Laos border and I could happily meet the financial requirements for a 1 year obtained in country.
    Your another one that has not bothered to read the rules/regulations on visas from your home country.

    Think you are from the UK, maybe wrong, but the Thai foreign office rules are the same in most western countries.

    Multi o means showing 20,000 Baht, in a bank, not 400.000 Baht in a Thai bank.
    London, embassy will grant a non immigrant spouse visa [no border runs] if you can show 400,000 Baht or equivalent in a UK bank. Or 3 months of monthly deposits of 1,500 pounds.

    All this, local, alleged new immigration rules are land based, not covered by the Thai foreign office, not seen where they have changed, or are going to change laws.

    Also these changes in local [Thai] laws are only temporary, after the elections the new government has to vote them in or reject them.

    Been here a long time and the more things change, the more they stay the same, don't worry be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    maybe wrong, but the Thai foreign office rules are the same in most western countries.
    You're wrong.

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    As far as I know London will still give me a years multi non O visa, good for 15 months if do a border hop just before expires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    As far as I know London will still give me a years multi non O visa, good for 15 months if do a border hop just before expires.
    That's correct, I use the same visa, for me no problem, live on the Lao land border, go to Chong Mek every 90 days. enter Lao, come back to Thailand with a load of duty frees, take the wife, cousins and any one around.

    Thais pay 30 Baht for a one day pass, but can carry back a litre of booze and a cartoon of cigs, win win for me.

    Guess the question would be, is a multi O on Koh Samui with a border run every 3 months better than getting a non O spouse extension of stay from your home country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Guess the question would be, is a multi O on Koh Samui with a border run every 3 months better than getting a non O spouse extension of stay from your home country.
    ???
    You don't get any extension of stay from your home country, they can only be obtained from an immigration office within Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    That's correct, I use the same visa, for me no problem, live on the Lao land border, go to Chong Mek every 90 days. enter Lao, come back to Thailand with a load of duty frees, take the wife, cousins and any one around.

    Thais pay 30 Baht for a one day pass, but can carry back a litre of booze and a cartoon of cigs, win win for me.

    Guess the question would be, is a multi O on Koh Samui with a border run every 3 months better than getting a non O spouse extension of stay from your home country.
    This makes me totally confused as per your previous post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Multi o means showing 20,000 Baht, in a bank, not 400.000 Baht in a Thai bank.
    London, embassy will grant a non immigrant spouse visa [no border runs] if you can show 400,000 Baht or equivalent in a UK bank. Or 3 months of monthly deposits of 1,500 pounds.
    Can someone explain this?

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    ^Fook knows.

    Just go native if you really wanna live in the mad house eternally.

    Loads do it!

    No money, no paperwork, no stress.

    Just live in Nakon knowhere and become a hermit.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong as I must still be missing something if you want to be a bitch and jump through hoops and leaving loads of money in a Thai bank and have loads of stress you get a 1 year visa in country that they can change the criteria anytime they want but if you want an easy life with no requirements no hassles and no stress you get a one year non O outside Thailand utilise it for 15 months and life is good. WTF am I missing that you drama queens ain't?

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    Getting the zimmer frame on the visa run bus causes problems for the gent

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I must still be missing something if you want to be a bitch and jump through hoops and leaving loads of money in a Thai bank and have loads of stress you get a 1 year visa in country that they can change the criteria anytime they want but if you want an easy life with no requirements no hassles and no stress you get a one year non O outside Thailand utilise it for 15 months and life is good. WTF am I missing that you drama queens ain't?
    I got a retirement visa at the Thai embassy in U.K. in October 2015. They had just tightened up the application from my original visa from a U.K. consulate.
    London embassy only now, and a few hoops to jump through. Income proof notarized, plus U.K. police report etc. I reckon it’s still the same. As you say, good for 15 months if you play it right.

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    ...this thread has become TVized: plenty of interpretations, misinterpretations, confusions, corrections, misunderstandings and generalized nausea...Thai Immigration officers would be highly amused...if they understood English...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...this thread has become TVized: plenty of interpretations, misinterpretations, confusions, corrections, misunderstandings and generalized nausea...Thai Immigration officers would be highly amused...if they understood English...
    Oh many do TC and they follow sites. This is why I laughed at all the posters that spouted the agency work around. You know that is already being discussed.

    As Bowie said a few pages back, people will spend what it takes to stay until it reaches their personal threshold. The agencies will survive because they might have less clients but they will double or triple their fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    This is why I laughed at all the posters that spouted the agency work around. You know that is already being discussed.
    ...I believe agency workarounds are sacrosanct to immi officials: any new regulation must ensure the dodge before promulgation. Of importance is the appearance and apparent enforcement of strict regulations...the reality, I suspect, is that the income stream from agency owners to officialdom will be kept flowing...more discreetly, perhaps, but cascading nonetheless...because: Thainess...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    just to give you an idea of whats been going on, fri.the 15th.it was reported on tv.thai news,that BJ.had raided a visa agency who catered for people from myanmar.
    they found close on 500passports and 29 counterfeit stamps,for fake visa's and 90day reports.
    nothing new you would say but,this business has been going on for OVER 10YEARS.
    so you can imagine the amount of money that's going into someone's coffers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I must still be missing something if you want to be a bitch and jump through hoops and leaving loads of money in a Thai bank and have loads of stress you get a 1 year visa in country that they can change the criteria anytime they want but if you want an easy life with no requirements no hassles and no stress you get a one year non O outside Thailand utilise it for 15 months and life is good. WTF am I missing that you drama queens ain't?



    1. you can't get a 1 year visa 'in country'. you can only get an extension
    2. the only way to get a 1 year visa is 'outside thailand'.
    3. the MFA can change the criteria for issuing visas anytime they want. not just extensions.

    ever heard the expression, 'loud wrong'?

    because you do it.

    a lot.

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    Fook me Fookers, ya still bolikin on bout fook all eh.

    This is for fook stiks like me who travel in and out of this Shithouse and who aint peasant scum like Stroller.

    Just get a fookin Retirement Visa in ya home cuntry and make the coont work for 2 years. Ya show ya money in your bank plus sum other Gay arsed basic shit and Bob's ya fookin Uncle innit.

    So fookin easy and ya By-pass any dealings with Thai Immigration and the shit stains working there who like to make shit up depending on how they feel after their morning wank.

    On the other hand, if you are peasant scum like Stroller Big Joke has got ya fooked.

    See ya later koonters eh.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    news regarding the holding of 800k.bht.for an extra 3months after extension has been granted,and the drawing down of 400k.bht.will be verified at your next application for your extension.if your bank pass book shows that you have not abided by the new rules there will be NO EXTENSION.
    t.v. news jonathan farfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    If/ when I move back to Thailand I've still failed to read anything that would convince me to do anything different to what I did before as in a one year multi entry non imm O or B obtained outside of Thailand and a nice trip out the mad house every 3 months or day trip to Cambo or Laos border and I could happily meet the financial requirements for a 1 year obtained in country.
    This is a fine alternative but in truth it gets old very quickly. Years ago I did the three-monthly hops but never travelled by bus to Cambo preferring to spend three days in Penang or elsewhere, HK or S'pore. As you say, it's a nice respite getting away from Thai stupidity but in the end it became a chore not least because when the time came to travel because I had to, I invariably didn't fancy it at all or, according to sod's law, I was ill from some bug or had the shits. It also got more expensive with depreciation - the idea of spending 12 hours on a bus to Cambo was too horrible to contemplate.

    In some ways I miss my trips to Penang and get quite nostalgic for the curries and the pleasant hours under the casuarinas of Batu Ferringhi beach with a couple of beers in the Soho bar.

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    Lets hope the GBP increases Gent and then you can afford a trip or two. If you book early enough, like 6+ months you can get really cheap AirAsia Rtns.

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