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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Lots of farang mansions in Issan will be up for sale soon.
    ....and proceeds distributed back upon the extended family.
    Clever Thais.
    Sucker Farang.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    messing with Marriage extension
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    I agree. They'll keep taking the farangs money as long as they can. And the farang will keep paying as he has little choice.

    And that's what will drive it. There is loan shark money to be made for now.


    The "work-arounds" will always exist - as soon as one door is shut another opens, it doesn't really matter how smart or clever the cops are, the cons will find a way to beat the system, always have, always will. Human beings are an ingenious and inventive lot, "demand" will produce supply. Yup, it'll cost more. How much more it will cost, yet to be determined, depends on what the market will bear.

    As long as people are people and greed exists backdoors will open - the question of how much it "cost" will be determined by how much risk is taken.

    The visa broker cottage industry will continue to operate - just not in its current style or flavor

    As far as "marriage" extensions, perhaps next in line, you all know the history and the cycles; education, marriage, retirement, tourist, border runs, as immigration concentrate and focus on one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Lots of farang mansions in Issan will be up for sale soon.
    You looking to buy or sell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    S.A.



    you drivel spouting gimp, always looking to apportion blame to anywhere but where it actually lies.

    anyone who finds themselves in "distress" has only themselves to blame. currencies have fluctuated since time immemorial, and anyone who expects to survive in a third world military dictatorship known for its ever changing views on foreigners residing in their precious land and the satisfaction they get showing those foreigners who's boss and making them jump through hoops for their entertainment without a substantial backup of funds is only asking for trouble.

    likewise the idiots who sever all ties with their homeland, "englands a shithole, i'm never going back to that freezing paki infested dump, it can go fuck itself . full of muslims and coons with knives, last time i went back it were 5 a pint in weatherspoons, they can all go fuck themselves".... how many times a week do we read stuff like that here.

    people fuck their own lives up, its not governments, its not regulations, its people themselves for not thinking ahead, for not having a plan b and a plan c, and for not realising that everything is transient, nothing is permanent and can and often does change tomorrow.

    surely those living on the edge with their uk pensions must have realised for years now that the pound is falling and unlikely to rise in the near future, the visa agents who bend the rules for them will not be allowed to continue, regulations regarding retirement visas will change and thai immigration officers will not be denied their fun (or their bribes) at having to refuse visa extensions for a few hundred old dossers who have taken things for granted for far too long and clearly haven't really thought this "living the dream" thing through properly.
    The people who retired in 2015 and lodged their applications with immigration having made the move to LoS based their calculations on the reasonable assumption the had strengthened in light of Cameron's majority election and as a consequence of the austerity programme. The markets and most, if not all, international forums were of the same opinion and accordingly the rose from its more usual range of 45 - 50 baht to 54 baht in August 2015. This reflected the many signs of recovery from the 2008 crash and indeed the IMF/OECD all published reports endorsing this progress and opined that the was now almost achieving a reserve currency status preferable to the euro and as a stable alternative to the US$.

    But as we know Brexit destroyed this happy trajectory. 17.6 million idiots voted to fuck up the economy, the future of the union, the future of the nation's children, the future of 4 million EU citizens in Britain, the future of 2 million Brits in the EU and erode the finances of nigh on 4 million expat Brits living abroad on devalued sterling denominated incomes.

    This was not a bunch of "old dossers" taking things for granted, this was not some daft Micawberism fantasised by deluded old people, this was not some economic ill wind blowing along because of some foreseen trend, it was the result of an insane action of the most stupendous stupidity ever inflicted by a people on itself for absolutely no benefit whatsoever.

    And because of that mass economic suicide the now stands at 40.08 baht, a value that has thrust a significant proportion of Brits retired here into economic jeopardy through no fault f there own.

    And just when one thought it couldn't get worse the Brit Embassy then withdrew a vital service that has truly fucked its own people in a way that they could never have reasonably foreseen.

    Shit happens but don't make it sound as if it were some natural occurrence or phenomenon ignored by silly old duffers "living the dream", they got fucked, plain and simple and by their own people.

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    The people who retired in 2015 and lodged their applications with immigration having made the move to LoS based their calculations on the reasonable assumption the had strengthened in light of Cameron's majority election and as a consequence of the austerity programme. The markets and most, if not all, international forums were of the same opinion and accordingly the rose from its more usual range of 45 - 50 baht to 54 baht in August 2015. This reflected the many signs of recovery from the 2008 crash and indeed the IMF/OECD all published reports endorsing this progress and opined that the was now almost achieving a reserve currency status preferable to the euro and as a stable alternative to the US$.
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    the reasonable assumption
    if you make assumptions based on the blatherings of the press, the imf, the markets, the international forums, the pundits and all the other overpaid so called experts who have been proved wrong time and time again then those assumptions are hardly reasonable and are based purely on the guesswork of "experts" and the belief that ones hopes will be realised come what may whilst dismissing blindly any reports that were in conflict with ones hopes.




    ..... in other words, it was a bunch of dreamers and dossers taking things for granted and not having a plan b or a plan c.

    you might as well base your future financial planning by consulting mystic meg at the end of clacton pier as listen to the "experts".

    you civil servants spend all your lives stroking your chins and staring at graphs yet you always manage to get it wrong..... just like the dossers and dreamers who may shortly become unstuck.

    Shit happens but don't make it sound as if it were some natural occurrence or phenomenon ignored by silly old duffers "living the dream", they got fucked, plain and simple and by their own people.
    nonsense. simply put, they got fucked for taking the words of politicians, rule makers, thai immigration and pundits at face value.

    i do both understand and sympathise that 10 years in pattayas turgid funk can dumb one down somewhat but hasn't life taught you anything ???
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    as this yr.2019 will be the 10th.extension i will have to do.as my 800k.hasnt been touched for the past 7 many times imm.have asked me what i live on.
    i have always shown them another acc.pass book showing exs.withdrawn every month.never a problem.
    so if the 800k.is living exs.how do they expect those that withdraw monthly amounts goner manage when it cant be touched for an extra 3months.thus making the money they live on not available for 10months out of 17.
    if the 800k.is as they previously stated is living exs.those who relied on drawing down,now find that 400k.cannot be touched how the hell are they goner manage.
    all them that will find theirselves in that position had better sort it it NOWand not take the thai way,LET IT HAPPEN FIRST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    so if the 800k.is living exs.
    Your speculating again and another inch closer to your next heart attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Your speculating again and another inch closer to your next heart attack.
    sorry stroller its NOT speculation the clauses.police order 138/2557 have already been amended.
    just done my B.P. 141/73---53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Clever Thais.
    Sucker Farang.
    What price can a mature European put on pristine tropical beaches, colourful historic monuments, food to die for, affordable accommodation and flexible companions. Many of these life's necessities have long disappeared from their reach elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    sorry stroller its NOT speculation the clauses.police order 138/2557 have already been amended.
    just done my B.P. 141/73---53.
    Where does it say 800k is for living expenses???

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    Some will never get it....

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    Farangness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Where does it say 800k is for living expenses???
    so why is the extension money has got to be available INSTANT,immigration ask what do you live on? if its in a fixed acc.its has always been known as living exs.but the new clauses don't allow for that,SO WHATS NEXT for them that got F.all.
    come on mate you are not that thik.are you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    come on mate you are not that thik.are you
    No, I am not the thicko who replaces knowledge with conjecture & speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    speculation
    A lot of that going on. Only thing we know for sure is Immigration has drafted a change pending parlimentary approval. In summary:

    "You now need the 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for TWO months prior to you applying for your extension, AND for 3 months AFTER you get your extension, THEN the money cannot drop below 400K baht for the remainder of the year."

    In another thread, if no Embassy letter, must show bank statement showing minimum of 65k baht per month transfer into a Thai bank. This is not a change btw.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    No, I am not the thicko who replaces knowledge with conjecture & speculation.
    as dick emery used to say,"OH I DO LOVE YOU"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    A lot of that going on. Only thing we know for sure is Immigration has drafted a change pending parlimentary approval. In summary:

    "You now need the 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for TWO months prior to you applying for your extension, AND for 3 months AFTER you get your extension, THEN the money cannot drop below 400K baht for the remainder of the year."

    In another thread, if no Embassy letter, must show bank statement showing minimum of 65k baht per month transfer into a Thai bank. This is not a change btw.
    I know it doesn't affect me,but you have to wonder those of that need the money after they get their ext.how they will manage must be a big headache.but there again if they don't have any back up funds [I do know of 2] THE LOAN SHARKS will help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    I know it doesn't affect me,but you have to wonder those of that need the money after they get their ext.how they will manage must be a big headache.but there again if they don't have any back up funds [I do know of 2] THE LOAN SHARKS will help.
    Not so much a matter of helping as it is of continuing their business. And, apparently it is quite a business. 'tis the visa brokers that Hakparn has targeted and "set his eyes" upon. So, their business will be disrupted, but, only for a short time. They'll adapt, change, find different methodology. Primary rule of a successful business is you Must change with the times.

    There is a "demand" and the visa brokers will fulfill the need.

    Be glad the impact on us (legit folk) is "minimal". Speaking only for myself, the impact is non-existent (at this point in time). Maybe, just maybe, I'll have to make a second trip to the bank and the immigration office. Oh well, naught more than a minor inconvenience. So Be It.

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    for me its only,a second trip to the bank[i wonder will they ask for another letter to confirm the balance] i have always got the letter the day before i go to imm.its never been a problem.our bank LH. in the mall korat doesnt open till 11am.otherwise i can update the book in the machine.
    extra cost is taxi fare there and back.home -imm.-home 700bht.

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    For those under financial pressures, the 65k/month route may be the better option, no requirement to let it 'mature' in the bank. Additional costs for recycling funds need to be calculated in as recurring monthly expenditure, might get a bit too tight for a few guys.

    The dream of living a care-free life with limited funds/income is evaporating faster with each new twist in the Immi knickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    For those under financial pressures, the 65k/month route may be the better option, no requirement to let it 'mature' in the bank. Additional costs for recycling funds need to be calculated in as recurring monthly expenditure, might get a bit too tight for a few guys.

    The dream of living a care-free life with limited funds/income is evaporating faster with each new twist in the Immi knickers.
    You’ve had that dream for way too long stroller.
    At least posters planning to come here, take drugs, and eat dogs know where they stand now.
    Well done champ.

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    I am not effected by the changes, ya miserable coffin dodger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    I am not effected by the changes, ya miserable coffin dodger.
    ‘affected’

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    from phuket immigration office. today.


    GRANDFATHER RULE

    Stunningly, under the new order the old provisions that people who have been living in Thailand for continually on a retirement visa since before Oct 21, 2008 can still apply under the exact same conditions that they were first approved.

    Under this “grandfather rule”, applicants who are over 60 still only need to show that they either have B200,000 in a Thai bank, or receive at least B20,000 income per month.

    Likewise, applicants under the same grandfather rule who are 55-60 years old can apply showing that they have B500,000 in Thai bank account or an income of B50,000 a month.

    For these people there is no option to provide a combination of monies to reach any special target, Col Acheep explained.

    They must have the money in the bank or receive the required monthly income; they cannot add them together to try and reach any special figure, he said.

    However, there is no minimum balance required to be kept in a Thai bank account, he noted.
    https://www.thephuketnews.com/holdin...SZQI9mLQC3U.97

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