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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Look, the only fukers who give a flying fuk about these new rules are peasants like Stroller and his fookin ilk.

    The vast majority of punters have a few buks in the bank and this is fook all in the grand scheme of things innit.

    Farang peasants Out and cashed up Coonts In.
    The problem for the Brits is that they can no longer rely on the combination route and with the Brexit fall in exchange rates they now have to deposit 20,000 in an account whereas in 2015 it was 16,000 and that deposit has to remain intact for 6 months which means another, say, 10,000 is required to defray expenses in the first year. Additionally, the income route entails a monthly transfer of at least 1,600 that in practice would require a gross income of around 22,000 to generate.

    That's going to rattle quite a few cages inhabited by the British contingent for sure, especially those who retired in the Noughties, up to 2006, when the criterion was a deposit equivalent to 11800 or a monthly income of just 940. People who have not visited Thailand for quite a while remark on the absence of the Brits when they poodle about - no surprise really, income-wise the country has become a third world coon state.

    Where have you been? You still in that bothy?

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    The combination route to retiree extensions has been in force for over 20 years during which time many folk have bought property and established roots subsidising indigenous Thai extended families with nary a thought that they could not qualify for their residence. The 800,000 baht is no longer the 12,000 they once saw but has now increased by 65% to 20,000. One is always mindful of exchange fluctuations but the recent Brexit crash has been a blow for many. As I said, they will have to capitalise and return to Blighty. Incidentally, the average pension in the UK is in a range of between 13,500 and 18,600 per annum. The truth of the matter is that for many, retirement in the UK is simply not possible and if divorce strikes in one's 50s then you are probably quite nicely fucked given one's pension will be shared despite living alone.
    Illness is again a problem. Insurance policies are no longer viable, hospital costs are prodigious and one's nest egg, already reduced by currency crashes, can be depleted further.
    well, as you say, thats life, so deal with it.

    its no different to suddenly being confronted with a large bill to repair the gearbox on your car, repair a leaking roof or replace that leaking boiler.

    anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in thailand should know full well that the rules and regulations that define our permissions to stay are subject to constant, contradictory and often unannounced changes and if we havent factored the possibility of surprises into our finances and plans ........ well .... then we leave ourselves at the mercy of the ubiquitous chickenhead and the politicians that legislate our trading arrangements. the financial crisis of 10 years ago that caused havoc with so many expats dreams also seems to have been forgotten by many, believing that such a thing could never happen again.

    so for those struggling to come up with 800 large, just cut down on the beer, the expensive falang food and use the fan instead of the aircon....... or move back to the uk and let the nanny state wipe your sorry arses for you.

    life throws up many surprises, and the more resilient of us will swallow our pride and make whatever changes are necessary to survive these upheavals and continue to live happy lives, it's all about ones expectations in life.
    the truth is, we are entitled to nothing.

    the less resilient will just moan, cry and blame the cat for their misery and go on and on and on about how unfair life is.

    i believe charles darwin had a lot to say on this matter.

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    HH. wants to know,could i be a throwback of DARWIN.

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    Irrespective of your editorialisation spun from that squeaky old bath chair in which you are now no doubt reclining as you clack away in splenetic fury against the species from which you yourself evolved, the fact remains, it is now practically as cheap to live in Britain as here in the LoS for many.

    Portugal and Spain, Cyprus and Malta are by far much better economic bets for those who wish to ease arthritic bones and enjoy the sunshine although Brexit has fucked that now.

    The point lost on you Tax is that the status quo in Thailand has remained for nigh on 20 years and recent lurches into distress have all been as a consequence of the British and their government fucking things up, and has fuck all to do with Thai who are simply reacting to it in a somewhat stupid way.

    The folk who are going to come a cropper are mostly the decent folk who live quietly, comply with the laws and bother no-one who have always lived within their means but through no fault of their own are being sacrificed on the altar of stupidity by the lumpen British too fucking stupid to know their fucking arse from a hole in the ground.

    They are fucked and it is all down to their own people.

    As an Irishman the irony is positively delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I can't see this ending as it is. What's next I wonder?

    What's to stop the government from saying starting now, one years extensions will be ฿30,000? Take it or leave it.

    The government can always make exceptions for more desirable visitors from what are considered non falang countries such as China, Korea, Japan and India.

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    They should raise the fees to something like 20,000 baht an application and then grant PR after, say, four years of consecutive residence and scrap the re-entry visa nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    charles darwin
    Darwin? now come on, the Creationists are right - the evidence is in your face on a daily basis, you see the idiocy that abounds here, just ain't no way this genealogy could have survived Darwin's "survival of the fittest" to modern times

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    The folk who are going to come a cropper are mostly the decent folk who live quietly, comply with the laws and bother no-one who have always lived within their means but through no fault of their own are being sacrificed
    has it ever been any different, anywhere.

    life has never been fair.

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    Darwin was wrong, disproved by the undisputed fact we are here.

    It is not the fittest who survive, it is the most fecund and the human population is expanding exponentially. In terms of social hierarchical structures, the prime motivating force establishing them, as correctly observed by Einstein, is of course stupidity. One only has to glance around to see that but if any doubts remained and needed dispelling then incontrovertible proof can be found anywhere in Wales, in the Brexit decision and of course the election of Trump.
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    I went to a 'Visa' agent yesterday in Soi Post Office. Just to find out things. I asked about the changes that may be coming up. I was told "we pay their wages and nothing will change for the agents or the farangs. Best extension to get is a 'Retirement'. 'Marriage' too much paperwork. Price 25,000 for the first year, 15 months. Thereafter, 12,500 every year."

    They do the 90 day reports. Drop yer passport in at 8am, pick up 4pm.

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    Indeed, there is another nearer to the immigration office itself that used to do it for 20,000 baht but I think they are more circumspect these days.

    The 90 day agents are a bore and should be shot. Many a time we wait our turn and as the moment approaches an agent turns up with a handful of 12 passports that are passed to the jobsworth for processing and we mere mortals wait........

    Corruption in progress and a wonderful metaphor for this hypocritical country.

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    Fuk me Thegent,

    90 day reports are fuk all. Only silly retarded fuks like Stroller would ever go to an Office to do one. I did mine last week on my mates computer. Took us five fookin minutes and was approved next day.

    Regards the extra time required to have ya coin sitting in Sumchais bank goes..... sell ya fookin collection of exotic colostomy bags eh, ya don't need em fookin all eh.

    Farang cheap charlie peasant fukers should just be fuked orf. No coont likes em.

    Stinky piss pant fookers they are, nasty little whinny shitters.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Irrespective of your editorialisation spun from that squeaky old bath chair in which you are now no doubt reclining as you clack away in splenetic fury against the species from which you yourself evolved, the fact remains, it is now practically as cheap to live in Britain as here in the LoS for many.

    Portugal and Spain, Cyprus and Malta are by far much better economic bets for those who wish to ease arthritic bones and enjoy the sunshine although Brexit has fucked that now.

    The point lost on you Tax is that the status quo in Thailand has remained for nigh on 20 years and recent lurches into distress have all been as a consequence of the British and their government fucking things up, and has fuck all to do with Thai who are simply reacting to it in a somewhat stupid way.

    The folk who are going to come a cropper are mostly the decent folk who live quietly, comply with the laws and bother no-one who have always lived within their means but through no fault of their own are being sacrificed on the altar of stupidity by the lumpen British too fucking stupid to know their fucking arse from a hole in the ground.

    They are fucked and it is all down to their own people.

    As an Irishman the irony is positively delicious.
    I only lived there for 10 years, but your comment on 20 years of “status quo” is as superfluous as your claims of gbp usd parity.
    There have been changes every year that I remained in Thailand. Don’t even think about the flexibility of using a different immigration office. That just multiplies the opportunity for different interpretations of the same laws, and the catch all discretionary powers of the IO.

    Accept your status as an alien pauper or move on, but for fuck sake stop crying in your beer and everyone elses.

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    You truly are a fucking idiot.

    Look, mungo mofo moron, the requirements for a retirement extension has not changed in 20 years in that the lump sum of 800k, monthly income of 65,000 or a combination of both have been the " status quo " for the entire fucking period. You gormless buffoon.

    Engaging with you TD numpties reminds me very much of a visit to the Dusit Zoo monkey enclosure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Engaging with you TD numpties reminds me very much of a visit to the Dusit Zoo monkey enclosure.
    Sadly closing so where are you moved to now Gent?

    ThaiVisa is more your go i think.

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    Amongst your 30+ posts per day, is there ever one which isn't a snide attack on another member, NumPrik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Irrespective of your editorialisation spun from that squeaky old bath chair in which you are now no doubt reclining as you clack away in splenetic fury against the species from which you yourself evolved, the fact remains, it is now practically as cheap to live in Britain as here in the LoS for many.

    Portugal and Spain, Cyprus and Malta are by far much better economic bets for those who wish to ease arthritic bones and enjoy the sunshine although Brexit has fucked that now.

    The point lost on you Tax is that the status quo in Thailand has remained for nigh on 20 years and recent lurches into distress have all been as a consequence of the British and their government fucking things up, and has fuck all to do with Thai who are simply reacting to it in a somewhat stupid way.

    The folk who are going to come a cropper are mostly the decent folk who live quietly, comply with the laws and bother no-one who have always lived within their means but through no fault of their own are being sacrificed on the altar of stupidity by the lumpen British too fucking stupid to know their fucking arse from a hole in the ground.

    They are fucked and it is all down to their own people.

    As an Irishman the irony is positively delicious.
    Someone with forensic historical knowledge of the cheapest way to retire in LOS is rubbing his hands with glee about changes to this historical bargain.
    You are billy bullshitter and everyone knows you are up shit creek without a paddle. Moving your sterling pension to the bog so it can be paid in Euros, won’t do you any favors in the long run. Mwahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Amongst your 30+ posts per day, is there ever one which isn't a snide attack on another member, NumPrik?
    You sir are a fine upstanding citizen who always posts highly of others here and it is a veritable boon to have you here.

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    Just finished off my marriage Visa extension through 2020 today. In talking to the IO, he mentioned to me about the changes for the retirement visa. I said Oh yeah it has a great portion of the foreigners here in an panic. He said that he has been instructed to flag closely anyone who appears to be using an agency for funds. So it appears all the numpties flapping their lips about using agencies etc on forums has already raised a big flag. My wife asked him why about the changes and they were told it was to be fair to all being there are some that comply and others that cheat around the back door to meet the requirements. The IO officer said that there are quite a few that are living off their pensions but it does not meet the new requirement and they warned them about their the next Visa renewal. It appears some leniency is being used currently to give some ample time to get their financial situation in compliance.

    Honestly I expect more changes coming as they close the loopholes and work arounds foreigners think they have found.

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    and recent lurches into distress have all been as a consequence of the British and their government fucking things up,
    you drivel spouting gimp, always looking to apportion blame to anywhere but where it actually lies.

    anyone who finds themselves in "distress" has only themselves to blame. currencies have fluctuated since time immemorial, and anyone who expects to survive in a third world military dictatorship known for its ever changing views on foreigners residing in their precious land and the satisfaction they get showing those foreigners who's boss and making them jump through hoops for their entertainment without a substantial backup of funds is only asking for trouble.

    likewise the idiots who sever all ties with their homeland, "englands a shithole, i'm never going back to that freezing paki infested dump, it can go fuck itself . full of muslims and coons with knives, last time i went back it were 5 a pint in weatherspoons, they can all go fuck themselves".... how many times a week do we read stuff like that here.

    people fuck their own lives up, its not governments, its not regulations, its people themselves for not thinking ahead, for not having a plan b and a plan c, and for not realising that everything is transient, nothing is permanent and can and often does change tomorrow.

    surely those living on the edge with their uk pensions must have realised for years now that the pound is falling and unlikely to rise in the near future, the visa agents who bend the rules for them will not be allowed to continue, regulations regarding retirement visas will change and thai immigration officers will not be denied their fun (or their bribes) at having to refuse visa extensions for a few hundred old dossers who have taken things for granted for far too long and clearly haven't really thought this "living the dream" thing through properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    all the numpties flapping their lips about using agencies etc on forums has already raised a big flag.
    The agency I visited tuther day, post #160, says business as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The agency I visited tuther day, post #160, says business as usual.
    Maybe for now..... I mean think about it. Why tell you no. Those agencies stand to lose a lot of free money.

    Lets see how this all shakes out in the coming months.

    That said, if they start messing with Marriage extensions etc I have told my wife depending on what they change we might sell up and move. She said NO Problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Maybe for now.....

    Lets see how this all shakes out in the coming months.
    I agree. They'll keep taking the farangs money as long as they can. And the farang will keep paying as he has little choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I agree. They'll keep taking the farangs money as long as they can. And the farang will keep paying as he has little choice.
    And that's what will drive it. There is loan shark money to be made for now.

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    Lots of farang mansions in Issan will be up for sale soon.

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