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    Okay Pragmatic is WAY off base with their blanket statement that only the owner of the property is responsible for filing a TM.30.

    Hundreds of foreigners have been fined in Chiang Mai, Pattaya, Phuket, etc for failure to file a TM.30. The immigration's take on this is; when you as a foreigner rent a place you become the "possessor" of the place and there by can be fined for failure to file a TM.30.

    As far as your conundrum Phuketrichard, I'd say go file a TM.28 (change of address) and attempt to file the TM.30 with just the documentation you have now. I'm sure the immigration officers will either let you file it or tell you what you're lacking..

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    Pragmatic is WAY off base with their blanket statement that only the owner of the property is responsible for filing a TM.30.
    I totally fooking disagree. All really depends on the office to which you report. I stated what happens at my local office.
    Who should act?

    Officially and practically, the responsibility to report the stay of a foreigner rests with the host: the landlord of a property, the hotel or the service apartment. Untimely reporting of a foreigner can be penalized with THB 1,600 per case (normally the penalty does not exceed that amount , even if your landlord reports months too late).
    However, if you are the guest or tenant, you canít ignore TM30 either: many foreigners report that they need it when going to the Immigration office for a service, such as the 90-day reporting and sometimes even for visa extentions. It still depends on the officer in charge that you're facing, but at such moment that you may find out that your landlord did not report your stay and you will have to explain where you stayed all that time. There is also a risk that you as a tenant (or guest) may be fined instead of the landlord.
    In some cases, Immigration enforces strictly and demands the return slip of the TM.30 form, in other cases they allow foreigners just to tell them their address and when it's in the system it's okay.
    Some foreigners reported having problems at the hospital after treatment when they didn't have a TM.30 form, apparently it's needed for the insurance company, so even for this, it's better to get it done.



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    thanks tod

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    Pragmatic, indeed an anecdotally interesting story

    Here's one of my own, in Bangkok the immigration office doesn't care in the least if you or your land lord has EVER filed a TM.30 form. They just plain don't care about them.

    Chiang Mai fined hundreds and HUNDREDS of people for failure to file a TM.30 when they started getting rabid about enforcing this rule that's been on the books for eons..

    Jomtien at least is telling people who come in they need to file one and letting people go get the required documentation. As is Phuket.

    This was posted on that Thai Visa Advice (NOTHING to do with the T/V forum) Facebook group I help on by someone from Phuket
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    Thanks for setting things straight Tod - as you're prone to do.
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Thanks for setting things straight Tod - as you're prone to do.
    Cheers.
    And the conclusion was?

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