Thread: So Who Knows What ?

A new problem .

Though not for me .


Wasp

..... and here it is .

This Thai lady has been married for several years to an English guy .
He doesn't have enough assets for her to qualify to live in the UK .
So she has been several times and stayed but has had to leave again after a while.

Right now she is in Thailand .
And the guy ....... has died.
He has even been cremated already !!! Wasn't old either . Just poor health .

And my question to all you excellently helpful people --- is this .

Is there a special visa category that applies here ? A UK visa which will allow her to go to the UK and finalise paperwork ?

The hope of course is that there will be some assets left to her . He was sending money every month and that has stopped .
And she depended on that.
So she wants to sort out things ... and his brother is being as obstructive as he can be .

Surely there is some classification which applies so she can quickly go to the UK for a couple of months , tie up affairs and then go home ?



Wasp

His brother is being obstructive because of any potential inheritance.
Or maybe he just doesn't care and has no bond with his sister in law.
Interesting situation as a point of law.
But tbh I don't think she has much hope of getting a visa , where's Todz Danielz when you need him?

A standard visit visa seems the most likely visa for her.

https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa/overview

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...visit-guidance

Should be a local government representative she could speak to who might give her some assistance...

Do you know anything about the UK? Or did you mean in Thailand?

Either way, it was a fucking moronic comment.

^ Uh oh...Thought you were SeekingArse, old bean...

From reading the OP sounds like the airfare would cost more than the bloke was worth.

Indeed, if he had been a northern oik subsisting in the arsehole of a dead end town like Crewe or some such Godforsaken English hellhole, then you may well be right Bumbumboy.

Perhaps you could sponsor the woman with your untold millions you keep boasting about in your puerility.........?

Have a word with your distaff, they may even be from the same village.

Neverna ....... Thank you . You're not as bad as all the writers named ' Wasp ' say you are.


Seekingasylum --- that's a wonderful answer .

It should be posted as a sticky for future Reference .

I assumed ...... imagine a Thai daughter is working in the UK and has a really serious accident . Surely there is some kind of compassionate visa ' bypass ' to allow the mother to travel swiftly to the UK to be with her daughter ?

And the same with this situation . Surely there is some provision to travel in that short time between the death and the cremation ? But apparently not .

It certainly does feel like this guy's brother has decided he would like to keep whatever assets remain .
The deceased did sell a house and bought a caravan - so there may be a decent sum of money in a bank . A case of " Why should this go to some Thai ? " . The brother is probably also of limited means and it would be easy to tear up any Will that he didn't like .

I have no proof of any of this speculation . Just sympathy that the monthly £200 has been stopped .

Thanks again . I'll make contact with the Probate Registry .


Wasp

well done genticles - you can be a helpful cnut sometimes

tried to green you , but got some message about not being able to give reputation to genticles in case it goes to his head

Rather typically ..... ask her any question at all . Blank face .

" Don't know "

" Don't know "

" Don't know "

I've already sent off a message to the Probate Office in Birmingham just to let them know that she exists . But there are forms to fill out too .

' Is there a Will ? '
" Don't know "

Are there any children from previous relationships ?
" Don't know "

How many brain cells do you actually have ?
" Don't know "

The sympathy starts to ebb away .


Wasp

The embassy has an emergency telephone line which should give access to a duty officer who could liaise with a UKVI officer. Sudden death and other compassionate circumstances affecting immediate family members of course trigger responses which are often compelling and result in a swift visa issue.

In this case the spouse may well obtain a visit visa but the officer must be assured she will not become a burden upon the state and has the means to leave when appropriate.

The thing is, what is it that she can achieve by her presence in the UK that cannot be completed in her absence by a nominated 'amicus'. Probate, even if uncomplicated and where there is a Will executed competently with the full cooperation of all legatees and beneficiaries, can take several months. If he died intestate and the sibling(s) are obstructive then one is looking at a year or more - a term well in excess of the visit visa validity.

If the chap had suffered a serious accident and was not expected to survive, the UKVI would have issued a visit visa within 24 hours in her circumstances given her previous history and record of compliance.

But this will business is an entirely different jug of mackerel. Best get someone in Blighty to fight her corner which in the circumstances wouldn't be that difficult to achieve - contact Registrar of Births/Deaths, have certified copies of passports and m/c to hand, and a statement of facts for the Probate Registry.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Indeed, if he had been a northern oik subsisting in the arsehole of a dead end town like Crewe or some such Godforsaken English hellhole, then you may well be right Bumbumboy.

Perhaps you could sponsor the woman with your untold millions you keep boasting about in your puerility.........?

Have a word with your distaff, they may even be from the same village.

How many times must you be reminded that there is not a single drop of Northern blood running through my veins. While Crewe may not be the most picturesque of towns in the UK in fact it is down right ugly, you only need to venture a mile outside of it in any direction and you are in villages and nice Cheshire countryside where those of us who are not Northern oiks reside. Although obviously country Cheshire villages with all they have to offer in terms of lifestyle quality can't compete with Pattaya.

Are they legally married or just a Buddha marriage? If legally married and the bloke has no will she will be entitled to the Lions share with a lesser share of his estate going to any children, a quick google will tell you how it all breaks down in the event of no will. If he owned his house, will or no will and was legally married she would have a good claim and would probably get the proceeds from that as the law stands.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The embassy has an emergency telephone line which should give access to a duty officer who could liaise with a UKVI officer. Sudden death and other compassionate circumstances affecting immediate family members of course trigger responses which are often compelling and result in a swift visa issue.

In this case the spouse may well obtain a visit visa but the officer must be assured she will not become a burden upon the state and has the means to leave when appropriate.

The thing is, what is it that she can achieve by her presence in the UK that cannot be completed in her absence by a nominated 'amicus'. Probate, even if uncomplicated and where there is a Will executed competently with the full cooperation of all legatees and beneficiaries, can take several months. If he died intestate and the sibling(s) are obstructive then one is looking at a year or more - a term well in excess of the visit visa validity.

If the chap had suffered a serious accident and was not expected to survive, the UKVI would have issued a visit visa within 24 hours in her circumstances given her previous history and record of compliance.

But this will business is an entirely different jug of mackerel. Best get someone in Blighty to fight her corner which in the circumstances wouldn't be that difficult to achieve - contact Registrar of Births/Deaths, have certified copies of passports and m/c to hand, and a statement of facts for the Probate Registry.

There's a career opportunity for you here SA.

And pondering upon your words you are of course quite right . What could she achieve were she here ? .
For a fee of £10 the Probate Registry will let me know if any Grant of Probate is issued in the next 6 months . Registering a claim is not easy when you have requirements like a copy of his Passport ..... exact dates of this and that .... and the useless Thai partner says " Don't Know " to everything . And the brother will supply no help at all.
She can't access his Bank Account online to see anything . Doesn't know the name of the Bank or his Account number . FFS !!!

You're right .

Register with the Probate Office . Try to freeze his bank . Make a formal claim on any estate .

Can only give you one ' Green ' . So thanks again .
I tried to give a ' Green ' to Neverna but it said I can't do that because he's not so nice !!!


Wasp

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Although obviously country Cheshire villages with all they have to offer in terms of lifestyle quality can't compete with Pattaya.

My back garden gives private access to a fine beach of silvered sand laced with swaying palms wafted by tropical zephyrs overlooking a fine azure coloured sea into which a fat red sun sets nightly in a vermillion blaze of glory and iridescent, fluffy Titian cumuli.

So, I rather think you may well be right, for once.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Although obviously country Cheshire villages with all they have to offer in terms of lifestyle quality can't compete with Pattaya.

My back garden

You live in a fuckin condo.

Back on topic, the bank will automatically freeze his account on becoming aware of his death and any funds in it eventually passed to which ever solicitor is dealing with his will.

Thank you Wasp. It may be better if you secure a decent lawyer to act for her. First things first, certified copies of passports, marriage certificates and translations, bank account details would be good - how did he transmit his monthly payments? Western Union or bank transfer. The deceased bank accounts should have been frozen the moment the death certificate was to hand. What pensions did he have? Does it provide for a spouse. Details eh?

The legal system in Australia is very similar to that in England. And in my opinion, proof of the regular payments to her are essential, as since he supported her she may well be able to claim due to this fact alone....even if they were unmarried.

If there is no will and they are not legally married she has a claim to exactly fuk all.

In Oz, de facto status gives equal rights as marriage, then divorce, and (I'm guessing) possibly after death.

I guess the UK is different there.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

If there is no will and they are not legally married she has a claim to exactly fuk all.

Beautiful language the English language , hey ?