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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    A few years ago I inquired and would have had to pay 6000 pounds instead of 1500, I recently paid.
    Can you expand a bit more on this pls.
    It's about 680 a year but can only go back 5 ish years.
    You will need 38 years to get full pension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Can you expand a bit more on this pls.
    It's about 680 a year but can only go back 5 ish years.
    You will need 38 years to get full pension.
    Recently, 1 year ago, I paid back 10 years of NI contributions, class 2. It cost me about 1500 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Hi Chalky. Still in limbo with the Brit Embassy "letter to renounce" citizenship thing. They (BE) say they have discontinued Statutory Declarations of this nature until after meetings with the Home Office. In the meantime Thai Special Branch are trying to work something out around this, but no news so far.. Will update when I hear something from either party.
    This is an abuse of your human rights to become a Thai citizen. Did you speak to the Consul, or just a Thai member of staff? Good luck with a speedy fix to this issue.

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    How many years in total do you have now?

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    Your National Insurance record and your State Pension

    Your new State Pension is based on your National Insurance record when you reach State Pension age.
    You’ll usually need to have 10 qualifying years on your National Insurance record to get any new State Pension.

    You may get less than the new full State Pension if you were contracted outbefore 6 April 2016.
    You may get more than the new full State Pension if you would have had over a certain amount of Additional State Pension under the old rules.
    You’ll need 35 qualifying years to get the new full State Pension if you do not have a National Insurance record before 6 April 2016.
    Qualifying years if you’re working

    When you’re working you pay National Insurance and get a qualifying year if:

    • you’re employed and earning over 162 a week from one employer
    • you’re self-employed and paying National Insurance contributions

    You might not pay National Insurance contributions because you’re earning less than 162 a week. You may still get a qualifying year if you earn between 116 and 162 a week from one employer.
    Qualifying years if you’re not working

    You may get National Insurance credits if you cannot work - for example because of illness or disability, or if you’re a carer or you’re unemployed.
    For example, you can get National Insurance credits if you:

    • claim Child Benefit for a child under 12 (or under 16 before 2010)
    • get Jobseeker’s Allowance or Employment and Support Allowance
    • get Carer’s Allowance

    You’re not working or getting National Insurance credits

    You might be able to pay voluntary National Insurance contributions if you’re not in one of these groups but want to increase your State Pension amount.
    Gaps in your National Insurance record

    You can have gaps in your National Insurance record and still get the full new State Pension.
    You can get a State Pension statement which will tell you how much State Pension you may get. You can then apply for a National Insurance statementfrom HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) to check if your record has gaps.
    If you have gaps in your National Insurance record that would prevent you from getting the full new State Pension, you may be able to:











    Check your National Insurance record

    You can check your National Insurance record online to see:

    • what you’ve paid, up to the start of the current tax year (6 April 2018)
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    • if gaps in contributions or credits mean some years don’t count towards your State Pension (they aren’t ‘qualifying years’)
    • if you can pay voluntary contributions to fill any gaps and how much this will cost

    Your online record doesn’t cover how much State Pension you’re likely to get.

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    Signing in to the ‘Check your National Insurance record’ service activates your personal tax account. You can use this to check your HMRC records and manage your other details.
    If you’ve paid National Insurance in the Isle of Man

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    You’ll need to say which years you want your statement to cover. You can’t request statements for the current or previous tax year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    How many years in total do you have now?
    I have 24 years.
    I was a student for 5 years, so those years were paid for. I was also unemployed for a year or two.
    I only worked for 5 years in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    I have 24 years.
    I was a student for 5 years, so those years were paid for. I was also unemployed for a year or two.
    I only worked for 5 years in the UK.

    Hi ChalkyDee,

    I'm also about to apply and found your information very helpful. Thank you for the insight. What I still didn't get, however, does the amount of gained points affect the outcome of the application as long as it is above 50? As I don't have a PR and am still below 30 years I would miss quite many points. Estimated around 68/100 would that reduce my chances compared to getting more than that or is it irrelevant?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moriozzo View Post
    Hi ChalkyDee,

    I'm also about to apply and found your information very helpful. Thank you for the insight. What I still didn't get, however, does the amount of gained points affect the outcome of the application as long as it is above 50? As I don't have a PR and am still below 30 years I would miss quite many points. Estimated around 68/100 would that reduce my chances compared to getting more than that or is it irrelevant?

    Cheers
    Theoretically you only need to get more than 50 points.


    You say you are under 30 years old. Are you legally married to a Thai citizen? Have you held a Thai work permit for more than 3 years?

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    50 or 100 makes no difference. They didn't score my points the way i thought so best to just ask and they will estimate on the spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee99 View Post
    50 or 100 makes no difference. They didn't score my points the way i thought so best to just ask and they will estimate on the spot
    Are you now a Thai citizen? if not, how far along the process are you now?

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    I have done the special branch test, NIA interview and my file has been sent to the MOI. So i am waiting for the MOI interview.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    Are you now a Thai citizen? if not, how far along the process are you now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee99 View Post
    I have done the special branch test, NIA interview and my file has been sent to the MOI. So i am waiting for the MOI interview.
    Same as me. It was seemingly sent in March but I have never seen any letter that it has been, have you?

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    Sounds like the British embassy are being real bastards.
    Not only refusing letters for pensions but also the letter of intent to give up citizenship.
    SB, like Immigration in the case of the pension letters, will ask the Home Office to verify the intent (impossible) or for some way of following to ensure Brits go and ahead and renounce (also impossible). And the embassy has stopped doing the declarations which are already not on their list of things they are prepared to do. Under the UK Nationality Act there is no way of verifying or enforcing this intent any more than there is under the Thai Nationality Act.

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    ^Yup. Big sticking block for me now. They will not issue or notarize the declarations or letter requirement (this is from April this year) to proceed with applications..

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