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Old 22-11-2016, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Government approves 10 year visas for foreigners over age 50

Anyone have anymore information about this?? If true it would mean the end of the current one year visa system, plus grandiose new requirements on income and bank deposits.

Gov?t Approves 10-Year Visas for Foreigners Over 50
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Will this new visa still involve 90 day reporting?
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Old 22-11-2016, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Applicants must either earn a monthly salary of at least 100,000 baht or have more than 3 million baht in their bank account, which cannot be withdrawn within the first year after receiving the visa. They must also have health insurance that covers hospital stays and provides at least USD$10,000 in annual coverage

Visa holders will still have to check in every 90 days with the Bureau of Immigration, Athisit said
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So it will basically mean that instead of going to renew your annual Extension of Temporary Stay based on marriage every year, you just get the new 5 yr visa and do 90 day reports as normal for the 5 years.

I guess that there's a multiple reentry permit too, that allows you to come and go.

no biggie really, it just cuts out going to get your annual extension every year.
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Will this new visa still involve 90 day reporting?
Absolutely.

....with the same old local discretion. Varies.

Approval of a 10-year pact is not guaranteed.
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Old 22-11-2016, 08:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Too many questions currently, but worth watching for any developements if it is factual.

Another article with a bit more information.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...enior-tourists

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Yet another source.

Thailand halves visa on arrival fees for Indians, 18 nations | The Indian Express
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Meanwhile, the Cabinet extended to 10 years from one the long-stay visa for foreigners aged 50 or more.
However, they must report to immigration police every 90 days.
The visa will be valid initially for five years and could be renewed for another five, Col Apisit Chaiyanuwat, vice minister at the Prime Minister’s Office, said.
The visa fee was set at 10,000 baht (20,000 rupees), he said.
Apart from the age requirement, the visa requires eligible foreigners to have a monthly salary of at least 100,000 baht or a bank deposit of at least 3 million baht, to be maintained for at least one year after receiving the visa.
Besides, they must have health insurance coverage for at least USD 1,000 for outpatient care and USD 10,000 or more for inpatient care per policy per year.
The revised rule aimed to promote medical and wellness tourism in line with the government’s policy.
The target groups for the visa are long-stay visitors from India, Australia, Canada, China, England, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Taiwan and the United States, Apisit said.
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What about New Zealand, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Spain, Greece, South America and the umpteen other countries not mentioned?
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They must also have health insurance that covers hospital stays and provides at least USD$10,000 in annual coverage.
So if you're un-insurable you're exempt? Or may be the first year you have insurance, but lose it thereafter, how do they keep a check on that?
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Insurance bit is not clear but over a 10 year period cheaper and less hassle than annual extension for retirement. If/when it is offered I will switch.
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So it will basically mean that instead of going to renew your annual Extension of Temporary Stay based on marriage every year, you just get the new 5 yr visa and do 90 day reports as normal for the 5 years.

I guess that there's a multiple reentry permit too, that allows you to come and go.

no biggie really, it just cuts out going to get your annual extension every year.
Kind of sounds like it would only be applicable to Retirement extensions, not Marriage.

Certainly some contradictory information, like a 10 year visa that has to be renewed after 5 years?

A visa fee of 10,000 baht, which presumably would be charged again at the 5 year renewal, equates to 2,000 baht/year, a small increase on the current 1,900.

Were it not for an ever increasing amount of strange regulations that have been applied during the last two years, most would think this was a joke.

As Pragmatic pointed out, obtaining the requisite health insurance for many retirees would be impossible due to age barring that nearly all insurers apply. I guess that the government could introduce it's own insurance of course, for a suitably exorbitant fee.

Hopefully, Todd will be along soon with his take on all this.
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2,000 baht/year, a small increase on the current 1,900
OK by me. 1 day trip to Bangers for US Embassy income verification costs about 10k baht per year to do extension.
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Are you sure? Stick three million baht in a Thai bank for a year. That's seventy thousand
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The US is one of the countries whose embassy will issue an income verification letter solely on self declaration, unlike those like the UK whom require actual proof of income.
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Please note they just approved the "rough draft" of this and there's nothing really hashed out as in how it will be implemented, how it will actually work AND there is no roll-out date either..
In summary;
10-year visa for people over 50
- price of visa 10K baht
- over 50 years of age
- monthly income of 100K baht OR minimum deposit of 3million baht in a thai bank which cannot be touched for one year
- health insurance for one year with $1,000USD for out-patient care and $10,000USD in-patient care per policy year
- 90 day reporting still must be done
- visa can be extended another 5 years after the first 5

No article that I found mentions if this is sold as a multi-entry visa or not, nor did ANY article say if it's purchased inside the country at your thai immigration office OR outside the country at a Thai consulate.

Also no article mentions this is in ANY WAY replacing any type of existing yearly extension of stay (got inside the country at a thai immigration office) or any current visa type (gotten outside the country at a thai consulate).

They are very long on speculation and very short on how this is exactly going to be implemented.. It also doesn't mention if foreigners get this "visa" outside the country at a thai consulate BEFORE winging their way here, or get it inside the country at a local immigration office.

The thai related forums on the inter-web are rife with posers , err posters weighing in with their two satang's worth of dis-information.

Right now I'd hafta say the best advice about this would be the words of wisdom spoken by Harvey Keitel playing Winston Wolfe in the movie Pulp Fiction;

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Geesh! What a woman!...More moronic rhetoric with more fantasy increases in tourist number projection guesses?

5555 suspect well heeled tourists would balk at investing in Thai bank accounts and submit to proof of income requirements.

Being that the Thai police are immigration and most all Embassies, Consulates and Immigration offices are autonomous and perhaps are receptive to ......
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Being that the Thai police are immigration and most all Embassies, Consulates and Immigration offices are autonomous
Almost right
The people at thai immigration offices are a division of the Royal Thai Police, BUT all they can do is immigration related stuff.

ALL the thai consulates and thai embassies (which are interestly enough located OUTSIDE thailand ) are run by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. While they may seem to you as autonomous they all follow the dictates of the MFA. That's why now all the "multi-entry visas" in the US (METV, year-long Multi-O's, B's, ED's, etc) are sold only at 4 places; New York, Chicago, LA, or Washington DC. The MFA put a stop to most of the honorary consulates scattered hither and yon around the US from selling anything but single entry visas.

This wasn't designed to boost tourist numbers, because as a rule "tourists" by their very definition, come here, TOUR around, then leave.

This "10 year wonder visa" <-as in we wonder how it will really work, is designed to attract more people who live her...
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If true it would mean the end of the current one year visa system, plus grandiose new requirements on income and bank deposits.
You're making stuff up man.

No where in ANY of the articles does it say the current yearly extension of stay process would be canceled.

You're reading things into that vague, poorly written article that aren't spelled out.

And NO, no one has more information on this because it's just the thai powerz-that-b tooting their own drum, beating their own horn..
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This all looks very similar to the Malaysian requirements which the Thais are using as a template since they find it difficult to come up with a true idea on their own.

It is easy to announce a complicated plan, but another thing to implement and maintain.
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It is easy to announce a complicated plan, but another thing to implement and maintain.
That reminds me of when you could get an extension here, with no show of money, based on support by a Thai child. 2006 was the year.
Then we had free government hospital treatment for farangs on long stay extensions. Both ill thought out and only lasting one year before being withdrawn.
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If true it would mean the end of the current one year visa system, plus grandiose new requirements on income and bank deposits.
You're making stuff up man.

No where in ANY of the articles does it say the current yearly extension of stay process would be canceled.

You're reading things into that vague, poorly written article that aren't spelled out.

And NO, no one has more information on this because it's just the thai powerz-that-b tooting their own drum, beating their own horn..
Whatever happens I sincerely hope this does not cause many long time residents to lose their ability to stay here. Good luck to those whom may be affected.
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