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    Too many people jumping to conclusions that other one year visas will be affected. This is merely another visa option for those who can afford it. I can afford it, but would more than likely maintain my one year multiple entry visa status.

    Everyone needs to sit back and wait to see what developes. For anyone who has lived in Thailand for awhile, you will be used to this way of doing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Everyone needs to sit back and wait
    or be proactive and plan to leave.Thailand is becoming less and less attractive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    They must also have health insurance that covers hospital stays and provides at least USD$10,000 in annual coverage
    Interesting. Wonder what needs to be presented to prove this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    This all looks very similar to the Malaysian requirements
    That's exactly what I thought.

    But Thailand being Thailand, they can't resist the temptation to make it more complicated and eke out more money.

    In Malaysia the economic benefits (I presume) are seen as being more spread out in the community, while in Thailand the hands of officialdom are rather more grasping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    or be proactive and plan to leave.Thailand is becoming less and less attractive
    Where are you off to Dave?

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    I think it patently obvious that this new proposed visa is in addition to the current visa regime, designed for those who want the convenience and security of a five year resident visa - however, quite how it proposes to deal with those who have lost their incomes, have developed an underlying medical problem and have spent their savings, say, 18 months after the issue of the visa is not clear.

    What does worry me is the leakage of the requirement to have a medical insurance certificate into other extension applications. Most folk over 60 tend to have some developing condition which would render them liable to pay premiums that make a residence untenable or, indeed, impossible given most over 70 are uninsurable.

    The problem with the Thai is of course they are both very greedy and quite stupid.

    The British government did canvass the Thai on the possibility of Brits residents in Thailand being permitted to join their medical social insurance scheme with perhaps an additional premium to be paid. I have no idea how it developed but I suspect the Thai simply blanked them on the basis all farang are just cows to be milked and do not qualify, ever, as anything other than visitors on a perennial year's probation.

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    Just a minor point, but I wonder why they would require the medical insurance to include a US$1000 outpatient limit? (about 30,000 baht)

    If the visa holder has 100K+ baht monthly income, as required, they can probably manage to pay for 30000 baht of medical costs without any difficulty and don't need insurance to pay for it.

    Outpatient coverage increases the annual premium substantially.....I exclude it on my own because the annual premium discount is 25% for not taking it. Outpatient procedures are generally not that costly whereas in-patient costs can be pretty high depending on what you're "in" for. Thats when you might want the insurance to kick in.
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    They must also have health insurance that covers hospital stays and provides at least USD$10,000 in annual coverage
    Interesting. Wonder what needs to be presented to prove this?

    Just guessing, but maybe an insurance certificate translated into Thai.

    How the Thai officials can prove it's genuine is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The problem with the Thai is of course they are both very greedy and quite stupid.
    The understatement of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    quite how it proposes to deal with those who have lost their incomes, have developed an underlying medical problem and have spent their savings, say, 18 months after the issue of the visa is not clear.
    I'll give you a clue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    So it will basically mean that instead of going to renew your annual Extension of Temporary Stay based on marriage every year, you just get the new 5 yr visa and do 90 day reports as normal for the 5 years.

    I guess that there's a multiple reentry permit too, that allows you to come and go.

    no biggie really, it just cuts out going to get your annual extension every year.
    Read the opening sentences of the article: "Affluent foreign residents over 50 will soon be able to apply for 10-year visas, "
    "Intended to promote Thailand as a hub for medical services,"

    It's got nothing to do with marriage visa, nor retirement visa, nor work visa, but is an extra option, and is designed to attract wealthy visitors who want medical treatment (but could suit retirement visa people if they have the dosh).

    A whole lot of panicking over a "new" extension to the idea of the Elite Card, sans airport limo et al benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools
    The understatement of the year.
    No...his later statement was....
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    but I suspect the Thai simply blanked them on the basis all farang are just cows to be milked and do not qualify, ever, as anything other than visitors on a perennial year's probation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Where are you off to Dave?
    I'm due up the crema handy 2 min push in the wheelbarrow ,imagine paying for 10 years and being flattened by ...take yer pick

    Tsunami
    Elephant
    Nong
    Drunk Driver
    Balcony diver

    Pay as you go short time seems best investment .
    I still hope to dip my beak in the Cameron Highlands so who knows may wet yours if I can peddle that far on my map its all downhil to Changi took Alan a week but I stop for sex more often
    Dumpy Trump and Rumpy Pumpy, sic transit pax americana

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    They are very long on speculation and very short on how this is exactly going to be implemented
    Indeed. Often these "draft" announcements are done and naught comes of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    Anyone have anymore information about this?? If true it would mean the end of the current one year visa system, plus grandiose new requirements on income and bank deposits.

    Gov?t Approves 10-Year Visas for Foreigners Over 50
    Forget it, not as good as it sounds. To qualify you need a monthly income of 100,000 baht per month, or 3 million baht in the bank, which has to be there for one year before being granted the ten year visa

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    Will a farang woman married to a Thai man be able to get a 10 year visa without a show of monies? Something I find totally unjust if she can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Everyone needs to sit back and wait
    or be proactive and plan to leave.Thailand is becoming less and less attractive
    If that is your choice, then so be it. Leaving is not my choice, so I will just sit back and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Will a farang woman married to a Thai man be able to get a 10 year visa without a show of monies? Something I find totally unjust if she can.
    Pragmatic, you still whining about the fact that foreign women married to thai guys don't have to show income or banked money to get a yearly extension based on marriage?

    I'd have thought you got over that by now.

    This new "wonder visa" (as in we wonder how it will really work) has NOTHING to do with any type of yearly extension of stay garnered inside the country.

    In fact the thai version of the article specifically states this visa (when implemented) will be available at thai embassies and consulates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Pragmatic, you still whining about the fact that foreign women married to thai guys don't have to show income or banked money to get a yearly extension based on marriage?
    Yep I'm still whining. Women claim equality only if it suits them. Somchai, up the road, ain't supporting his farang wife and son. She works as a school teacher and supports him. For him a match made in heaven. For her a job til she dies.

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    how many governement employees get an official salary over 100 000 baht per month ?

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    Things must be getting bad. Out cycling this morning I came across a farang working in the cassava fields. May be saving up for his 3 million? I did stop to speak but he didn't speak English. If he's out tomorrow I'll try and get a photo.

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    The Thai government could offer Me Citizenship and I still wouldn't live there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    So it will basically mean that instead of going to renew your annual Extension of Temporary Stay based on marriage every year, you just get the new 5 yr visa and do 90 day reports as normal for the 5 years.

    I guess that there's a multiple reentry permit too, that allows you to come and go.

    no biggie really, it just cuts out going to get your annual extension every year.
    I doubt the multi re entry visa will be free, probably cost more than for 1 year
    Only difference seems to be renewing every 5 years instead of 1 year
    And 3m for 1 year instead of 800k for three months in Thai bank account
    Still have to do the 90 day report so who benefits

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    Well you get a degree of long term peace of mind obviously.
    The 'only' difference of doing something once every five years instead of once every year is significant, no?
    But who wants to put 3m in a Thai bank account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Will a farang woman married to a Thai man be able to get a 10 year visa without a show of monies?
    I believe that it is the case that foreign women married to Thai men can apply and be accepted for Thai citizenship without problems.

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