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    Yup, that is what I thought. I guess I will need to set up a new account at the bank in our city and keep the joint account also. I hope the bank in Thailand will let us have 2 accounts....lol

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    Here is the full procedure you're looking for from our resident visa guru Tod Daniels


    I ripped this from a post I made elsewhere but it spells out exactly what you do:
    Get a single entry Tourist Visa BEFORE you wing you way here; it's good for a 60 day permission to stay stamp when you arrive.
    You could come in on a 30 day visa exempt stamp BUT the reason I say get a 60 day tourist visa IS, you must have 14 days left on your permission to stay stamp when you do the first step.. If you have ANY hiccups you're cutting it close to get everything done and the 60 day tourist visa buys you time.
    When you hit the ground here, open a thai currency savings account at a thai bank.
    NOTE: you may hafta try a few different banks and even different branches of the same bank because a lot are NOT opening accounts for people on tourist visas, but you'll find one for sure.
    Then transfer 800K baht from your country into your thai bank (one of the requirements when applying for a Non-O visa inside the country is that the money must originate from overseas).
    Make sure you open the thai bank account in your name only.
    Once the 800K hits your thai bank account here, get the bank branch to type the letter stating you have 800K baht (or what ever balance it is OVER 800K baht) AND that the money was wired in from outside the country.
    Update your bank book (on the day you're applying for the Non-O visa), fill out the proper forms, make the proper copies and go to Chaengwattana Immigration Office here in Bangkok. It will cost 2000baht.
    You will be applying for a single entry 90 day Non-Immigrant Type-O visa based on the fact you're over 50 and intend to apply for a year's extension of stay.

    The application will go under review for 14 days, then you go back get the Non-O visa stamped into your passport (with a USED stamp on it) and you'll receive a new 90 day permission to stay stamp too.

    At this point you're done until there are 45 days or less left on that new permission to stay stamp.

    BE ADVISED: During this intervening time while you burn the days down to where you can apply for a yearly extension, your bank balance cannot fall a single baht below the 800K threshold. What you're doing is "seasoning" the money. The rule is for the very first yearly extension of stay you get based on being over 50, the money needs to be seasoned for 60 days.

    Once there is 45 days or LESS left on that new 90 day permission to stay stamp you got:
    Go to your bank, have them write the bank letter again stating you have 800K baht in your account
    Update your bank book (on the day you apply for the extension) fill out the appropriate forms, make the required copies of your passport pages, and the bank book pages and go back to Chaengwattana Thai Immigration and apply for a yearly extension of stay based on being over 50 and meeting the financial requirements. It will cost you 1900baht
    You'll get the year's extension on the day you apply. After that, IF you're going to leave the country at any time during the next year you should also purchase at least a single re-entry permit (1000baht) which lets you leave and re-entry once without losing your extension of stay. Or if you're comin' in and out of the country a lot, get a multiple entry re-entry permit for 3800baht and you can come and go all you want for the validity of your extension to stay.

    FWIW: There is NO seasoning required when first applying for a single entry 90 day Non-Immigrant Type-O visa inside the country. I've had people with their bank books showing the money arrived yesterday successfully apply for the Non-O..

    That's as clear as I can make it. It reads a LOT more complicated than it really is to do. Honestly, it's as close to a step-by-step guide as I can outline.

    NOTE: this is how you do this in Bangkok. I have abso-tively posi-lutely no frickin idea how anywhere else does it.. Sorry..

    Hope it helps..
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    Oops that's for a retirement visa

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    Yea, I am 40 and my wife is 26 our son just turned 7 so not yet...so I will need to do the type O multi by marrage I think.
    I have about 8,000 usd left in the account this year, so I can not get the full 1 year no go from Thailand every 90 day thing.

    My wife and I thought we could just show what we own in thailand to get my 1 year visa and we we wrong.

    Even to convert my multi 0 to a full one year I will need to show 400,00 in the Thai bank I think. Unless some one know a way to do the 1 year extention with out 400,00 in the bank.

    We have a Thai marriage license from 5 years ago and I have been to Thailand every year for 8 years. Never had a over stay issue and always left 2 or 3 days early.

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    Culinary, once you have your 1 year multiple entry O visa from the US, you can visit the immigration office in Udon and ask what documentation they need for a 1 year EXTENSION on that visa. They will give you a list which includes marriage certiicate, house book if you own your house, a hand drawn map to you residence, pictures of you an your wife at your residence and a few other documents. The list seemed to change each time I went to immigration, which is why you should go with your wife to see what they are currently requesting.

    As for the money you must show, none for the O visa, but 400,000 baht in a Thai bank account under your name for at least 3 months back for the EXTENSION. If you have a monthly income that equals 400,000 baht divided by 12 (months), that will suffice, but you will need to have a letter from the US embassy stating what that monthly income is. You can also have a combination of money in a Thai bank plus your monthly income that has to equal at least 400,000 baht per year.

    Hope this gives you enough information. One last thing. You can continue applying for these extensions year after year as long as you show the requested information. Do not be surprised if this required documentation changes from year to year. That is why it is always good to visit immigration just prior to application to see what they need to approve the extension.

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    Umm, rickschoppers, Both vientiane and savannakhet are "soft-touch" towards a year-long, multi-entry, Non-Immigrant Type-O based on marriage to a thai national.. That's ALL you need as far as documentation in either vientiane or savannakhet too. There's no need to go back to the US to pull that 5000baht visa, that's on you..

    FWIW: neither place is a soft touch anymore for raising children or being over 50, as from what I've heard all you'll pull for those categories is a 90-day, single-entry Non-O.

    Dillinger, are you sure about the "money originating from abroad" when applying for a yearly extension of stay OFF an existing Non-O visa?

    I know when you apply for a Non-O inside the country in Bangkok from a visa exempt stamp or tourist visa that one of the criteria is the money comes from abroad.

    However, on yearly extensions, as long as the bank account is in the applicants name only I've never seen them ask where the money came from (or look at the transaction codes in the back of most bank books).. It could be just and Udon quirk.. I dunno, that's why I'm asking.

    culinarygods; You can use an affidavit of income from abroad (the embassy letter) which shows you have 40K baht a month income IF you don't want to bank 400K in an account in your name only. Most (as in 99.9%) of the immigration offices accept that notarized letter at face value (meaning they don't ask for proof the letter is backed up by anything).

    So did you get the year-long, multi-entry, Non-Immigrant Type-O yet or what?

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    Tod, myself and a married friend were both told in Vientiane about 3 years ago that they no longer do multiple entry O visas based on marriage. Have things changed since then?

    I go back to the US every year because I have three grown kids and grandchildren there that I can afford to visit. It is much easier for me to apply for the multiple entry 1 year O visa at the same time.

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    rick, I've read no recent reports where people were being denied year long multi entry Non-O's based on marriage either in Vientiane or Savannakhet.

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    Hmmmmm.

    Here is the thread where I explained being denied a 1 year mutliple entry O visa based on marriage in Vientiane. Tod, it looks like you commented on it as well.
    https://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-v...when-will.html (Changes, Changes and More Changes, When Will It End??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post

    I go back to the US every year because I have three grown kids and grandchildren there that I can afford to visit. It is much easier for me to apply for the multiple entry 1 year O visa at the same time.
    Would it not be easier for you to just get a 0-A retirement Visa and work it to run two years considering you go back to States every year.

    Just asking.

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    Vientiane does not issue multi entry visas Tod, if it did I wouldn't have gone to that shithole Savannakhet and would instead have been sunning it up in BLD's pool and swigging dark beer Lao whilst getting a moobwank

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post

    I go back to the US every year because I have three grown kids and grandchildren there that I can afford to visit. It is much easier for me to apply for the multiple entry 1 year O visa at the same time.
    Would it not be easier for you to just get a 0-A retirement Visa and work it to run two years considering you go back to States every year.

    Just asking.
    Very possibly Terry, and I may try that this time when I go back to the US in September. However, I do not like the health certificate process for the retired visa in the US and the showing 800,000 baht income since I do not have to do either for the O visa based on marriage.

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    " 99.9% of Thai Immi offices accept Income Affidavits at "face value".

    Really Tod! Stick to what you know - Bangkok.

    Phuket Immi for one requires ALL financial amounts to be proved with back-up documentation.
    It even states this in their (in English) information sheets of Requirements.

    I doubt it is only Phuket ...

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    From Thai embassy Vientiane site



    Only Laos residents can get a multi.

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    So, why only Laos residents? Why can you receive a 1 year multiple entry O from Savannakhet but not Vientiane?

    Not a written regulation is it? Just how Vientiane wishes to apply the rules and fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Why can you receive a 1 year multiple entry O from Savannakhet but not Vientiane?
    No idea, maybe to even out the workload between the 2 offices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Why can you receive a 1 year multiple entry O from Savannakhet but not Vientiane?
    No idea, maybe to even out the workload between the 2 offices
    Sounds like selective discrimination to me. All consulates should follow the same regulations IMO.

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    ^ you may have hit the nail on the head there.

    The office in Savanakhet is indeed a consulate and the Vientiane office is an embassy.

    Just a stab in the dark

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    Googling it, the difference between an Embassy and a Consulate is that the ambassadors residence is in the Embassy.

    Thus he probably wants a bit of peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    So, why only Laos residents? Why can you receive a 1 year multiple entry O from Savannakhet but not Vientiane?

    Not a written regulation is it? Just how Vientiane wishes to apply the rules and fees.
    A 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage is really for people that work away from Thailand but are married to a Thai National and need a visa to come and go multipliable times a year .
    From what I have been told .........the big boss at Vientiane decided not to issue 1 year multiple entry O as he thought to many married foreigners that lived full time in Thailand were using this type of Visa instead of going to their local Immigration Office and getting a 1 year extension based on Marriage, Normally by people that can't meet the 400k in the bank or 40k a month income criteria.
    But it seems that the head honcho at Savannakhet does seem to mind issuing 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage to a Thai National as long as you have 5000 Baht for the visa and the correct paperwork .....and that is why most people that want a 1 year multiple entry O go there instead of Vientiane
    Big Ol' Lucky Ol' Al.

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    ^Sounds about right...Some of the fookers don't want us here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    So, why only Laos residents? Why can you receive a 1 year multiple entry O from Savannakhet but not Vientiane?

    Not a written regulation is it? Just how Vientiane wishes to apply the rules and fees.
    A 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage is really for people that work away from Thailand but are married to a Thai National and need a visa to come and go multipliable times a year .
    From what I have been told .........the big boss at Vientiane decided not to issue 1 year multiple entry O as he thought to many married foreigners that lived full time in Thailand were using this type of Visa instead of going to their local Immigration Office and getting a 1 year extension based on Marriage, Normally by people that can't meet the 400k in the bank or 40k a month income criteria.
    But it seems that the head honcho at Savannakhet does seem to mind issuing 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage to a Thai National as long as you have 5000 Baht for the visa and the correct paperwork .....and that is why most people that want a 1 year multiple entry O go there instead of Vientiane
    So that is the written purpose of the 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage, or is it just BS to discourage all us foreigners married to a Thai national from using that visa? Where do I find that definition in the regs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Where do I find that definition in the regs?
    It doesn't matter what the regs say..all regs are at the discretion of the guy in charge. That's why the boss at our local Surin Immigration Office can pull all the stupid stunts he does

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    So was that definition yours, or were you told that by an immigration officer? Either way, it is a cop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    So was that definition yours, or were you told that by an immigration officer? Either way, it is a cop out.
    All I know is Vientiane will only give you a Single entry O Visa ( 90 Day ) based on Marriage and you are told to go to the local Immigration Office if you want to extended it ..where as Savannakhet will give you a year. Thats why people ask on Forums " what are the latest rules at certain Embassys/Consulates" as some rules tend to change like the wind.
    If anyone wants a 1 year multiple entry O based on marriage then go to Savannakhet or you can go to Vientiane and argue with them until you are blue in the face and still walk away with only a Single Entry O for 90 Days.
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