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    Extension retirement visa ,bank money

    I have to extend my retirement visa before the 1 November my 800000 in the bank will have been in the bank for 90 days on the 30 October does anybody think this will be a problem since its so tight on days and can you give me a list of documentation I need to take

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    A letter from the bank confirming money in your bank along with bank books. Passport, and I think that's about it?

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    Medical letter from hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbutcher
    Medical letter from hospital
    That's for a driving license.

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    It depends exactly on where you're doing your yearly extension of stay based on retirement.

    In Bangkok you'll need;
    signed copies of;
    • picture page of your passport,
    • the original non-o visa you got which this extension is based on
    • every subsequent yearly extension tied to it
    • departure card
    • every page of your bank book
    • the original letter from the bank stating you have the money in an account in your name etc
    completed TM7 form w/a photo attached

    Once they go over the documentation, they're gonna hand you three other forms to fill out and sign, BTW; these are forms you can't download.


    In Bangkok you won't need;
    rental agreement, medical cert, or anything like that.

    I realize that you're cutting it close because of the seasoning of the money in the bank. Just so you know, the way the rule is written in thai and english it says for the first yearly extension of stay the money must be "seasoned" for 60 days, and for subsequent extensions it must be seasoned 3 months. That means the money needs to be in the bank 3 MONTHS and that's not always just 90 days because they count "calendar months" so if some months have 31 days it works out to longer than 90 days.

    Get all the documentation in order, and give it a shot. At least in Bangkok IF you are past the date for your yearly extension (overstay) by not that many days; all you do is pay the overstay fine and then go apply for and get your yearly extensions
    "Whoever said `Money can`t buy you love or joy` obviously was not making enough money." <- quote by Gene $immon$ of the rock group KISS

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    Thanks toddaniels

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    Todd - how far back with the bankbook(s) copy - to the first seasoning or the start of the last seasoning or the last extension?

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    Todd tells us that if one is an American or Australian citizen one does not need to show money in a Thai bank .

    A stat Dec from one embassy will do it.

    Great news for me.

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    Letter from the bank should be dated and produced on the day of application with the exact (same) amount of money showing on the letter and bankbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Todd tells us that if one is an American or Australian citizen one does not need to show money in a Thai bank .

    A stat Dec from one embassy will do it.

    Great news for me.
    Heard that years ago, but never heard of anyone getting it from the Oz embassy without proof of guaranteed income.
    That's the hard part, no matter how good a private super fund, house rent or other income, it is not guaranteed.
    Yanks just swear they have it, we need proof. Jim

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    ^

    Jim,

    I don't mean to disrespect you but you are living up in the middle of No where and seem to be out of touch with a few things.

    I live 10 minutes walk from the Australian Embassy on Sathorn road so I thought I would go have a friendly chat with the Embassy officials to Be absolutely sure that I had my shit together before applying for the Retirement Visa.

    They ensured me they do not need to view proof of Income. I simply fill in the Stat Dec, pay 600 baht and they will sign it.

    They did say though, there is no guarantee Chang Wattana immigration will accept it.

    Todd has told us he has done this numerous times with Australian and American citizens and they will except it.

    For other Nationalities they must supply proof of Income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    Jim,

    I don't mean to disrespect you but you are living up in the middle of No where and seem to be out of touch with a few things.

    I live 10 minutes walk from the Australian Embassy on Sathorn road so I thought I would go have a friendly chat with the Embassy officials to Be absolutely sure that I had my shit together before applying for the Retirement Visa.

    They ensured me they do not need to view proof of Income. I simply fill in the Stat Dec, pay 600 baht and they will sign it.

    They did say though, there is no guarantee Chang Wattana immigration will accept it.

    Todd has told us he has done this numerous times with Australian and American citizens and they will except it.

    For other Nationalities they must supply proof of Income.
    Hope its true Terry, but not personally met anyone who got a retirement ex that way.
    As have posted, know Aussies who have had to return, interested, retirement or spouse extension of stay with a stat dec.

    TD.s the man on the subject, he may be can, enlighten me on the process.
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleyboy
    Letter from the bank should be dated and produced on the day of application with the exact (same) amount of money showing on the letter and bankbook.
    I think that there is a few days grace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post

    Hope its true Terry, but not personally met anyone who got a retirement ex that way.

    I hope it's true as well mate,

    I will be very pissed off if I get turned around at Chang Wattana I can tell you.

    I don't expect too though, Ive read the same info over on the other channel.

    I'll post up a thread when I get the Visa.

    It can be a tad confusing until it sinks in that only American and Australian citizens can do it this way.

    Don't ask me why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post

    Hope its true Terry, but not personally met anyone who got a retirement ex that way.

    I hope it's true as well mate,

    I will be very pissed off if I get turned around at Chang Wattana I can tell you.

    I don't expect too though, Ive read the same info over on the other channel.

    I'll post up a thread when I get the Visa.

    It can be a tad confusing until it sinks in that only American and Australian citizens can do it this way.

    Don't ask me why.
    A tip, Ter....
    You might try another office besides Chang Wattana first.

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    Just to stick my nose in a little. I've only ever heard that it's Americans that need to swear they have the money, rather than prove it. Good luck Terry I hope I'm wrong.

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    ^

    Well it was thrashed out with Todd Daniels who is the Visa Guru on this forum and he assured us that Australian and Americans only can do this.

    He also added that he has personally assisted people through the process and regularly accompanies punters through Chang Wattana.

    Dude works in the game.

    Oh well, I'll soon find out EH.

    If it goes tits up I'll just transfer 800,000 Bht into Thailand and lose 3 K in interest I could of earned in interest back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post

    A tip, Ter....
    You might try another office besides Chang Wattana first.

    Jeff,

    I will go to Chang Wattana, they know their shit there, no pissing around with some tosser who is double guessing the rules.

    In other words I'm dealing with the Bucket and not the shit inside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Just to stick my nose in a little. I've only ever heard that it's Americans that need to swear they have the money, rather than prove it. Good luck Terry I hope I'm wrong.
    This is correct.
    Americans are not required to provide documented proof.

    Your good word is suitable and quite adequate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    I think that there is a few days grace.

    Not at Hua Hin.

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    A letter from the UK embassy in Bangkok I received actually had a statement confirming that they Embassy does not guarantee anything on the signed and sealed document. Which of course, when translated into Thai, is copied over.

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    ^ Why would you translate the letter into Thai?

    I've been using the 'letter' for years and never asked for a translation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleyboy
    I've been using the 'letter' for years and never asked for a translation.
    May be cuz you use the Hua Hin office and OhOh uses another? Different office, different interpretation of the rules?

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    Question to "terry57" did you already get your single entry 90 day Non-O back in Oz and are now going for your yearly extension of stay at Chaengwattana?

    It's not just Americanz and Auzziez who can use the embassy letter. ANY nationality can show a letter from their embassy stating they meet the financial requirements and use that to secure a yearly extension of stay.

    The problem is different country's embassies have different criteria about what you need to show (or don't need to show) to get the financial proof letter. Some embassy's require the applicant to show proof, pension statements of the number they put on the letter. The US an the Oz embassies do not require this.

    Don't forget, IF you're applying for a single entry Non-O visa out at Chaengwattana and are using the "embassy letter", they're gonna wanna see proof that it's real. There is no way around this at all. They'll want to see bank statements of deposit, social security statements, retirement funds, etc.

    As I've said over and over, in Bangkok the only time they don't require proof that the embassy letter is backed up by anything is when you're applying for a yearly extension of stay; which you can only do AFTER you have a single entry Non-O visa in your passport.

    Good luck, "terry57", if you want someone to "shepherd" you thru the process (for nothing) just to show the naysayers that it really works send me a P/M.. I've gotta go to Chaengwattana a couple times this week already, one more time ain't gonna kill me. Plus it'd let you get your paperwork 100% right BEFORE you sit down at someone's desk and end up runnin' down stairs for more copies..

    Just an FYI; there are now THREE forms they have you sign after they give you the yearly extension of stay. None of them can be downloaded, (but I think I posted images of them somewhere already) yet all of them need to be filled out and signed.

    Good Luck really. . .

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    Oh, just one more FYI; out at Chaengwattana it is a ZOO on Mondays & Fridays..

    That's when you have all the people are showing up from last weekend and before the next weekend.

    Tue-Wed-Thur aren't all that bad though.

    Unless I really hafta go out there I won't go on Mon or Fri..

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