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    New Overstay Penalties

    Had cause to visit Chaeng Wattana yesterday and everyone getting a non immigrant type visa was given this form to fill out:


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    60 days until it comes into effect. Apparently the legislation hasn't even been cleared yet.

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    Blank form?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Blank form?

    It is what happens when you try to hot link from the "Thailand chatter" forum.

    Jeeze Topper, if anyone you really should know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Jeeze Topper, if anyone you really should know better.
    If it wasn't such a pain to upload pictures here.......

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    FWIW;
    Here's the sign outside the door as you enter Thai Immigrations at Chaengwattana;

    (Sorry for the giant photo!)

    Notice there is NO "lifetime ban" for an overstay of more than 10 years when you turn yourself in anymore.

    Also I picked up a copy of the form they have you sign but couldn't figure out how to attach PDF files to this post (I'm a forum retard).. If anyone wants the form (now mandatory on all extensions of stay) send me a P/M and I'll send it to you. OR someone tell me how to upload a PDF file to the forum.

    It is just a standard fill in your name, nationality, passport number dealy saying you understand the overstay rules as they are posted outside and then it lists them for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    then it lists them for you in case you're a half wit.
    If it didn't list the penalties, how would even a full wit know what the penalties are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    someone tell me how to upload a PDF file to the forum.
    complicated , take a screen shot , host that shot with a free pic host provider , use that url to upload .

    why bother ?

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    Wouldn't surprise me (actually it would because it requires brain power) if this was a ruse to clear all overstay in the country and the law may never be enforced.

    #slapmuse

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    I took a pic of the form but it's such a piss poor copy of a copy of a fax that it didn't come out fer shit.

    CSFFan; Point taken (I edited that part out of the other post. . . .)

    Now I'm just graspin' at straws here, BUT:

    A foreigner might know something about this because every Thailand related forum out in internet land is grandstanding the news.

    Not to mention there's that GIANT 5 foot square banner you hafta walk past to get into the door at Chaengwattana.

    Even the two officers I spoke to who I got the form from said they really weren't clear on what was gonna be what.. It could be smoke and mirrors or it could be real who really knows..

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Not to mention there's that GIANT 5 foot square banner you hafta walk past to get into the door at Chaengwattana.
    Wasn't there yesterday that I saw....

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    For-fox-sake, not this same old song and dance from you CSFFan. We went round and round about LadPrao and the injustice of it all too.

    I was there Tuesday for almost 5 hours! Now, I'm just a dumb hillbilly from Ohio but last time I checked Tuesday was the day BEFORE yesterday!

    It's outside the double entry doors to the Immigrations Office on the right just under the t/v set that plays b/s visa info nonsense.

    Anyway, here's a jpeg of the form. (even I can use google and figure out how to do it).

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    All bollox as bribes are common place and if illegal many places where i live you can enter or leave uncontrolled

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    Had cause to visit Chaeng Wattana yesterday and everyone getting a non immigrant type visa was given this form to fill out:


    non imm visa got in Thailand??????

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    If you fukk up totally, just go get a new passport, methinx.

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    Yes "crippen" you can indeed get a Non-Immigrant Type-O visa inside Thailand at Thai Immigrations.

    Here's a pic of a Non-O visa issued at Chaengwattana and the new permitted to stay until stamp dated 90 days out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgen
    If you fukk up totally, just go get a new passport, methinx.
    Yep, Deed Poll change of name in your country of birth, apply for a new passport and your clear to travel anywhere.

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    Here's a pic of a Non-O visa issued at Chaengwattana


    On what basis was the visa issued.?? Sounds like it saves a trop back home.

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    That was a single entry non-O issued because the person was over 50 met the financial requirements and was going to apply for a year extension of stay based on retirement.

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    I was aware a single visit visa could be converted thus but one must do it at least 21 days (?) before expiry of the visa. Can it also be obtained on a 30 day visa exempt entry?

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    yes, as long as ur over 50 >
    get the 90 day extension, put ur $$ in the bank 2 months ( or arrange ur income letter and do the combo method) prior to the visa expiring an than go back and get ur 1 year extension.

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    Regards the new overstay penalties that are sure to come into Effect.

    Quite reasonable I think . Cant complain about the new rules unless one is a proper retard.

    Regards Long term overstays, the Thais should just flush the fools down the toilet.

    Not friggin hard to follow the laws EH ?

    If it is. just go home.

    The problem is, Thailand has been so easy on this lot in the past that they seem to think they are being hard done by now.

    Suk it up bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Cant complain about the new rules unless one is a proper retard.
    Indeed.

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    Did my 1 year extension to stay last week up here in the sticks. 20 mins in and out. No indication of signing the form in post #12.

    As with most things in Thailand, what the Bangkok powers that be do have little bearing on the rest of the country.

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    Let's try to use the "real terminology", because so much b/s terms are tossed about on various forums that people get confused.

    I'm sorry I beat this terminology drum so hard but it's really important.

    No one EVER renews their "retirement visa" because there isn't such an animal period (I don't care what Immigrations calls it when speaking half assed engrish to foreigners)! What you do is extend your "permission to stay" another calendar year based on retirement. Your original Non-O visa expired after that first 90 days was over and it can't be "renewed" ever.

    You can get single entry 90 day Non-Immigrant Type-O visa based on the fact you are going to secure a yearly extension of stay after that (either because of retirement or marriage to a thai national).

    In Bangkok, it can be done off a Tourist Visa or a visa exempt stamp (15 or 30 day) however you must have at least 14 days left on your "permission to stay until" stamp because of the processing time.

    If you're going for the Non-O because you're going to subsequently apply for retirement extension via the banked money route, you transfer 800K in your thai bank account. It doesn't need to be seasoned even a single day at this point, BUT you must show proof the money came from outside thailand. You show the letter from the bank stating your balance and you make copies of your bank book with the current balance shown on the day you apply for the Non-0.

    I have opened accounts with people, had them transfer the money into it, went to the bank the day the transfer showed up, got the letter, got the bank book updated and then dragged them to Immigrations that same day and applied for their initial Non-O 90 day visa.

    They take the 2000baht application fee and tell you to come back in 2 weeks. During this time the paperwork makes its way upstairs gets signed off and winds its way back down stairs. You show up two weeks later, don't even get a queue number, just go give your passport and your receipt to the officer and they stamp in the Non-O visa along with a new permission to stay stamp dated 90 days out.

    THEN you wait two months (until you have 30 days or less left on that permission to stay until stamp), get another bank letter, update your bankbook again, and go apply for a yearly extension of stay based on retirement. By that time the money (if you didn't touch it) will be seasoned the required 60 days for your first yearly extension of stay and it'll sail right thru.

    That's how it's done in Bangkok,

    There are multiple reports from people using Jomtien (Pattaya) Immigrations that they do it all the same day; show up apply for the Non-O, get it stamped into your passport, go apply for the year extension of stay and get a permission to stay until stamp of 15 months (90 days from the Non-O and the year from the retirement extension of stay)..

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