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    It's been awhile since you crossed there. The rules have changed.

    According to the new rule, foreign travellers who pass through border checkpoints at Shan state’s Tachilek, Karen state’s Myawaddy and Tenasserim division’s Kawthaung towns will be able to travel inland freely, except in restricted areas, and leave from their desired point of departure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    It's been awhile since you crossed there. The rules have changed.

    According to the new rule, foreign travellers who pass through border checkpoints at Shan state’s Tachilek, Karen state’s Myawaddy and Tenasserim division’s Kawthaung towns will be able to travel inland freely, except in restricted areas, and leave from their desired point of departure.
    Immigration officials relax restrictions for tourists travelling overland | DVB Multimedia Group
    The whole area around Tachilek is a restricted area .
    Prior permission to leave/enter is required beforehand .

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    Read the article, things have changed.

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    The article says that people will be able to travel freely except in restricted areas .
    The Shan state which surrounds Tachilek is a restricted area .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
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    If Thailand dont let them back in, Myanmar will have to deport them .
    Why would they have to deport them? Myanmar let them in, they are allowed to stay as long as the stamp in their passport says. They are free to leave whenever they want before that. They just can't go to Thailand.
    The Myanmar Visa isssued at the border only allows you to stay in the border town, Tachilek . It doesnt allow you to visit anywhere else in the Country , the Burmese immigration also keep your passport at the border and give it back when you leave .
    The only way out is back across into Thailand .
    Once the Myanmar Visa has expired , they would have to be deported , because its not possible for them to leave any other way

    That's not true I was ther ethe other day.

    It was in the junta days now you can go beyomg Kwengtung or as far as my dads home inProme

    You can fly to Yangon if papers are in order today.

    I have asked immigration and have seen no evidence yet of anyone so called 'standed'

    True many people have been incconvenience and short notice by if your on holiday why worry?
    August 12 finger priniing etc looks lie a bonanza for the bent officers who'll choose who is blacklisting,I'm sure their mia nois are choosing the colour of the new 4x4 or Benz now
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Way I read, if wife is partner or owner only one employee needed.
    If this is a limited company and your wife is a salaried director then she will count as an employee, and thus one more employee gives you the two I mention above.

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    Careful Pickel, you are about to enter the Fluke Zone.....

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    Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    the Burmese immigration also keep your passport at the border and give it back when you leave .
    I find that hard to believe. There is also an airport in Tachilek where you can fly to Yangon and then out of the country.
    You my find it hard to believe, but it is true .
    You hand in your passport at Myanmar immigration, they give you a card with your photo on it and stating that you cannot go outside of the permitted area, Tachilek and when you leave, you hand in the card and get given your passport back . There are checkpoints on the road leaving Tachilek .
    Going to Rangoon isnt permitted carrying the card they give you .
    And even if you did manage to get to Rangoon, you wouldnt be able to leave the Country without a passport
    This informationis wrong and therefore unhelpful,if you can edit please

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    Over a month ago the swop passport practice was abolished for me,I don't know what passport you hold.Many wetsr and ASEAN Chinese are free to wander

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    Missing MH370 ‘Behind Visa Run Crackdown’
    13 May 2014


    PHUKET — A senior Immigration officer has given a clue as to why the government is cracking down on tourists doing “out-in visa hops” across Thailand’s borders: MH370.

    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.

    Read the rest of the story here: Missing MH370 ?behind visa run crackdown?. Fingerprints next?

    en.khaosod.co.th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    The article says that people will be able to travel freely except in restricted areas .
    The Shan state which surrounds Tachilek is a restricted area .
    Also , you need a full Myanmar Visa issued at an Embassy to travel inland , rather than the VES they issue at the Tachilek border to visit inland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Missing MH370 ‘Behind Visa Run Crackdown’
    13 May 2014


    PHUKET — A senior Immigration officer has given a clue as to why the government is cracking down on tourists doing “out-in visa hops” across Thailand’s borders: MH370.

    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.

    Read the rest of the story here: Missing MH370 ?behind visa run crackdown?. Fingerprints next?

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    The VES restriction process began well over one year ago when they began to number the VES's and informed people not to return, that began a long time before flight MH370 went missing .
    The two subjects are not connected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration V's Fluke .

    place your bets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    You dont read do you? Again caught like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration V's Fluke .

    place your bets

    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai's impenetrable aura of Thainess will be no match for a sustained barrage of Fluke fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    It's been awhile since you crossed there. The rules have changed.

    According to the new rule, foreign travellers who pass through border checkpoints at Shan state’s Tachilek, Karen state’s Myawaddy and Tenasserim division’s Kawthaung towns will be able to travel inland freely, except in restricted areas, and leave from their desired point of departure.
    Immigration officials relax restrictions for tourists travelling overland | DVB Multimedia Group
    The part they aren't telling you is tourists must have a visa issued from the Myanmar Embassy in Bangkok to leave Tachilek. Red tape is hanging all around as tourists have to have reservations with an approved tour company inside Myanmar to get the visa. In other words, you have to have a minder from the time you leave Tachilek.

    Just walking up to the border and asking them for a visa so you can fly from Tachilek to Lake Inlay for a few days doesn't get you in. I already tried that. No go.
    Last edited by misskit; 13-05-2014 at 06:23 PM.

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    This from the Phuket Gazette:

    Foreigners will be allowed to continue to re-enter Thailand on three consecutive “walk-in” visas until August 12, Ranong Immigration Superintendent Ekkorn Bussababordin assured the Phuket Gazette today.

    The news follows the appearance of a formal notice posted on Bangkok Immigration’s website on May 8 stating that any persons who exit Thailand after completing a stay in the Kingdom on tourist-visa exemption status are to be refused re-entry to Thailand.

    The order, posted in Thai, states that the new rule is to come into effect at all immigration checkpoints – including airports – after August 12.

    “We will continue to allow foreigners to enter Thailand on visa exemption status, but only if they have not done so three times before,” Col Ekkorn told the Gazette.

    After completing three consecutive stays on visa exemption status, foreigners must obtain a visa from a Royal Thai Embassy or consulate to be able to re-enter Thailand, he said.

    “However, from August 13, our officers will refuse any foreigners attempting to re-enter Thailand if they have just completed a visa-exemption stay,” Col Ekkorn said.

    Foreigners refused entry at the Ranong Immigration checkpoint risk stranding themselves in Myanmar, an officer at Ranong Immigration told the Gazette last week, as there is no Royal Thai Embassy or Consulate in Kauthaung, the town across the Kraburi Strait from Ranong.

    The notice posted last Thursday explained that any foreigner who completed even one “visa run” in order to re-enter the country on visa-exemption status was to have his passport stamped “O-I”, indicting they had already been “out and in” from/to Thailand.

    Any foreigner attempting to re-enter Thailand after August 12 with a passport stamped “O-I” is to be refused re-entry, the notice warned.

    The notice also explained that Immigration officials were targeting specific nationalities “such as Koreans”.

    Only in special cases will people be permitted to re-enter Thailand on consecutive trips on visa-exemption status, the notice read.

    Immigration officers seeking clarification on the new rule are to contact Immigration Bureau Deputy Commissioners Maj Gen Natthorn Prosunthorn or Maj Gen Chissanu Yuktatat.

    No contact details for the generals were provided in the notice.

    However, the Gazette notes that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA), which is the Royal Thai Government administrative division responsible for issuing visas, does not clarify the number of visa-exemption entries a person may make.

    The MFA currently states on its website:

    “Nationals of the United States of America and 41 other countries are eligible to travel to Thailand, for tourism purpose, with the exemption of visa and are permitted to stay in the Kingdom for a period not exceeding 30 days. Therefore, you do not need a visa.

    “However, please make sure that you are in possession of a passport valid for at least six months, a round-trip air ticket, and adequate finances equivalent to at least 10,000 baht per person or 20,000 baht per family. Otherwise, you may be inconvenienced upon entry into the country.

    “Furthermore, foreigners who enter the Kingdom under this Tourist Visa Exemption Scheme may re-enter and stay in Thailand for a cumulative duration of stay not exceeding 90 days within any 6-month period from the date of first entry.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration V's Fluke .

    place your bets

    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai's impenetrable aura of Thainess will be no match for a sustained barrage of Fluke fire.
    I said that the current crackdown on the Visa exempt stamps has nothing to do with the missing aeroplane because the crackdown on Visa exempt stamps began well over a year ago , a year before the flight went missing .
    Or are you saying that Thailand began cracking down on Visa exempt stamps because a flight went missing , a year before the flight went missing ?
    If thats the case, then Thailand must have known that the plane was going to go missing a year before it actually did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration, in whose territory is the busy Chong Jom crossing into Cambodia, told The Phuket News, “The main reason is the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.” Two people on that flight were carrying passports reported lost or stolen in Phuket.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai of Surin Immigration V's Fluke .

    place your bets

    Pol Lt Col Tauthong Thitchai's impenetrable aura of Thainess will be no match for a sustained barrage of Fluke fire.
    I said that the current crackdown on the Visa exempt stamps has nothing to do with the missing aeroplane because the crackdown on Visa exempt stamps began well over a year ago , a year before the flight went missing .
    Or are you saying that Thailand began cracking down on Visa exempt stamps because a flight went missing , a year before the flight went missing ?
    If thats the case, then Thailand must have known that the plane was going to go missing a year before it actually did

    An interestigpoint

    THey sold the fakes tickets
    They allowed the 2 oddbods out
    They were the last country where radar is said to have seen it
    They love a bargain ,free plane ,sell the contents at theieves markets the girls at the girls mkt etc

    I think u thapao cracked it,watch out for men in black

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    You dont read do you? Again caught like this.


    So, the Visa exempt stamp clampdown began in March 2013 when the immigration began numbering the VES and told people they wouldnt get more than four Ves and not to come back.......and a aeroplane goes missing in March 2014, a full year later......and you think the VES clampdown was because the aeroplane went missing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Way I read, if wife is partner or owner only one employee needed.
    If this is a limited company and your wife is a salaried director then she will count as an employee, and thus one more employee gives you the two I mention above.
    Limited partnership company, really no idea how it's set up, all in Thai, accountants not much good in English, but it's a SME assisted company, industrial development area.
    Probably cheaper and easier to stay on a O multi spouse, if Savanhket stays friendly, but there are always ways to stay.

    Thanks for the info. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    I find that hard to believe.
    Can confirm Mae Sot take your passport and give you a lamenated card with a number on it (Last time I got 007, which chuffed me to bits).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    The two subjects are not connected
    You dont read do you? Again caught like this.


    So, the Visa exempt stamp clampdown began in March 2013 when the immigration began numbering the VES and told people they wouldnt get more than four Ves and not to come back.......and a aeroplane goes missing in March 2014, a full year later......and you think the VES clampdown was because the aeroplane went missing ?
    Also, the new Visa rules would not have stopped the Iranians .
    With the new Visa rules, someone would still be able to fly in, receive a one month Visa at the airport , go to Phukett, get a stolen passport and then exit through Malaysia overland, just like the Iranians on the missing flight did .
    So its quite clear that the missing aeroplane has nothing to do with the Visa clampdown

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    So its quite clear that the missing aeroplane has nothing to do with the Visa clampdown



    Immigration boss confirms the Out-In visa run is dead
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    Coming soon to an airport near you: electronic fingerprinting. Photo Pearson Scott Foresman

    The national commander of Thai Immigration, Lt Gen Phanu Kerdlaphon, has confirmed that “Out-In” visa runs are – apart from a few exceptions – a thing of the past.

    Speaking with The Phuket News this morning, Gen Phanu said, “We have been very lenient about this. I’ve had many comments about [our excessive leniency]."

    Several factors have come together to kill off the tourist visa run.

    The first, as already reported in The Phuket News is fallout from the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

    Two Iranian men boarded that flight using passports that had been stolen or went missing in Phuket a couple of years before. Hence a tightening-up on passports was inevitable.

    But another major concern is the number of foreigners working illegally, the General said.

    “Lots of nationalities come to Thailand on tourist visas but they come to work. I really want them to do the right thing, not try to dodge around the law and evade taxes."

    He said that Russians, South Koreans and Vietnamese in particular are in the spotlight. “Immigration is keeping an eye on them.” That said, other nationalities will not escape notice.

    “Out-in visa runs will still be possible but they have to show a credible tourism plan and give details of their accommodation to the officials.

    “Thirty days should be enough for a normal tourist. If they really want to travel around the country for more than 30 days, then they must show us a plausible plan. If officers are suspicious, then they will carry out checks.

    "If we believe their purpose in coming to Thailand is not what they say it is, then we will order them to leave and they will be blacklisted. They will not be able to return to Thailand, ever."

    He also confirmed that electronic fingerprinting of people arriving in Thailand will be introduced. “Yes, this is coming soon. We are now waiting for the budget to be approved. It is expensive so we will start by introducing it at international airports first.”

    He said he did not agree with complaints that the effective end to visa hops would affect tourism. “I don't think so. Tourists will still come to Thailand for holidays, but not to start businesses or get jobs.”

    Gen Phanu added, “If you are coming here not as a tourist, then please get the correct visa. Do it properly.”

    Source: http://www.thephuket...-dead-46240.php


    -- Phuket News 2014-05-13

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