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    from what i have gathered you have to report to the office in your district. they refused me once from 90day reporting in Chaeng Wattana (Bangkok) 'cos I put my Samut Prakarn address on the form. I re-joined the queue and put my Bangkok work address on and everything was fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong
    from what i have gathered you have to report to the office in your district. they refused me once from 90day reporting in Chaeng Wattana (Bangkok) 'cos I put my Samut Prakarn address on the form. I re-joined the queue and put my Bangkok work address on and everything was fine. __________________
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have not reported ever.

    When they ask me why I just tell them I am doing the job that I was contracted to do and according to the terms and conditions of the work permit they awarded me with.

    Unless they stay open after 6pm, open before 8am or on Saturday or Sunday it is impossible for me to report what they already know what I am doing.

    I pay a small fine which is a lot cheaper for me and my company when compared to the lost time and petrol money for me to sit in their office for hours to confirm the obvious.
    That is possibly the lamest excuse I've ever heard a foreigner spout out about not doing a 90 day report.

    90 Day Reporting is mandatory, it is NOT tied to either your extension of stay or your work permit, it doesn't have to be done in person OR even at the office which issued you your extension of stay. However it does have to have an address inside the zone where you're reporting.

    So if your extension was granted in Bangkok but you're doing your 90 day report in Chonburi, you need to put a Chonburi address on the slip and just say you're staying at that address. I've never had a problem turning in a 90 day report in another office.

    LoyToy, you are truly a piece of work parroting off some b/s line like; "I'm doing the job I was contracted to do according to the terms and conditions of the work permit they "awarded" you". Your self importance is over the top.. Truly pathetic..

    As a rule, most companies do the 90 day reporting for their foreign staff. I see the runners for them out at immigrations time and again with a stack of passports and 90 day report forms.

    While I'm always proud I'm a born-bred-corn fed American, sometimes I'm embarrassed and/or ashamed to be a foreigner living here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    That is possibly the lamest excuse I've ever heard a foreigner spout out about not doing a 90 day report.
    How is it lame?

    I don't live here on a retirement or marriage visa and have a responsibility to attend my company every day and make sure everything is running according to the responsibilities bestowed upon me.

    In fact the attending officer agrees with me every time we have this conversation and also agrees it is a stupid non-practical requirement for people such as myself.

    I pay a small fine and then am on my way with my status clean as a whistle.

    With regard to runners and others doing this ridiculous chore what a fvcking waste of time and money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    LoyToy, you are truly a piece of work parroting off some b/s line like; "I'm doing the job I was contracted to do according to the terms and conditions of the work permit they "awarded" you". Your self importance is over the top.. Truly pathetic..
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    ^ and it is not half and hour and I would lose at least half a day going through this totally idiotic process. God knows what I would find upon my return........................

    My passport is a very valuable asset to me and I also see these YaBa driven runners skirting through the streets of Bangkok with a handful of passports simply and randomly handed to them by a bunch of dopes.

    No way am I going to hand-over my passport to a complete and utter stranger and run the risk of him/her either losing it or selling it on to the counterfeit mobs here.

    The yank with all the good advice can do it if he so pleases but then he can deal with the BIB when he is picked up on the street without having his passport on him.

    I do things my way here in Thailand and this decision has served me well the last 28 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post

    90 Day Reporting is mandatory, it is NOT tied to either your extension of stay or your work permit, it doesn't have to be done in person OR even at the office which issued you your extension of stay. However it does have to have an address inside the zone where you're reporting.
    Spot on TD .

    So Mamakay,just put the Local address you are staying at ( take a photo copy of the House Book just in case) and you shouldn't have any problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
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    I do things my way here in Thailand and this decision has served me well the last 28 years.
    WOW, 28 years here and yet I see you still have your "I'm a self important foreigner" badge stapled to your forehead. Also in all that time here you haven't managed to meet ANY thai person who you trust enough to go do your reporting for you?

    As I said, most "real companies" which employ foreigners have their HR department do it for everyone. Christ even b/s language schools do that for the foreigners they employ without work permits!

    Conversely Bumrungrad Hospital will do it for you for a 600 baht fee. Drop your passport off one day, pick it up the next.

    I routinely see the same "runners" from visa services, language schools, Bumrungrad, etc at immigrations when I shepherd people thru the system. They all have a stack of passports for the 90 day dealy, especially Bumrungrad! One time the Bumrungrad runner was one queue number ahead of me and he had 25 passports in his bag! Thankfully because we know each other he let me swap queue numbers with him.

    BTW; there is NO Thai law written in the law books which says foreigners must carry their passports, that is an oft-repeated urban legend..

    Now you do have to have some form of I/D; but 9 times outta 10 a copy of the picture page of your passport and the page with your current extension of stay is more than enough to satisfy the Police. Unless you're caught running amuck with something more than the average "lets see if we can shake down stupid foreigners" scam.

    Just one last question for you "Mr 28 years in country", why haven't you managed to get Permanent Residence Status yet? It takes just 3 years of working legally, paying into and filing thai income tax.. Oh and it now takes the 192,000baht application fee (if you're single). Years ago it was far cheaper and if you have a thai wife it's cheaper still! Just so you know the quota for most foreign countries is NEVER hit each year. About the only countries which max out their quotas each year are China, Korea and Japan.

    People with Permanent Residence don't do 90 day reporting..

    So ummm, what's your lame excuse now?

    Oh one last thing;

    I was at Thai Immigrations today at Lad Prao and there was a guy doing his 90 day report a couple people ahead of me. Now the official rule posted on the Thai Immigrations website is 14 calendar days early or 7 calendar days late. He was 9 days late. The gurl said, "2000 baht fine" and the guy just went ballistic. He ranted about how he'd been here forever, had a thai wife, half thai kids, blah-blah-blah. She let him finish his rant, pointed to the sign which says, Fine for failure to do 90 reporting on time; 2000baht to a maximum of 5000baht and said, "Now your fine is 5000baht." I thought it was totally priceless for her to do that and she never lost her cool.. You should have seen that guyz face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    WOW, 28 years here and yet I see you still have your "I'm a self important foreigner" badge stapled to your forehead.
    WOW, seems I have gotten under your skin Toddy. By the way what immigration service company do you represent and is it legal? Seems you spend a lot of time at the immigration office Toddy.

    And I have deserved the title and based upon what I have contributed to this country. What have you contributed Toddy?

    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Just one last question for you "Mr 28 years in country", why haven't you managed to get Permanent Residence Status yet?
    I am also asked that question every 2 years and when I go to renew my work permit. I simply say it is not worth it because it offers no benefits. The officer also agrees that there are no benefits with no real rights rewarded and understands my position.

    And by the way I did not advise anyone else to do what I do so get your knickers untwisted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    So if your extension was granted in Bangkok but you're doing your 90 day report in Chonburi, you need to put a Chonburi address on the slip and just say you're staying at that address.
    I have never had a problem putting my Surin address on the form when doing my reporting in Pattaya. They also require, according to the Thai Immigration website, a copy of a bill with your address or some other printed form of proof with your name and address.

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    Believe me Loy Toy; it takes more than another foreign expert on all thingz thai to twist my knickers.

    Permanent residence does indeed provide benefits; for one your permission to stay isn't tied to your work contract and neither is your work permit. Lose your job, your permission to stay is fine.

    If you're single, Permanent Residence is also the first step to thai citizenship. I know more than a few foreigners who've gotten P/R, then thai citizenship and now all own their businesses, homes, etc outright. That also circumvents the prohibited trade list because they're now "thai", instead of having to follow the skewed way the laws are written about foreigners doing stuff like that.

    Unless I'm mistaken; foreigners married to thai nationals, who've been legally employed and paid thai tax for 3 years don't even need to apply for permanent residence. They can go right for thai citizenship. Still, holding P/R status gives "points" on the citizenship score (I think).

    About the only down side I see is that re-entry permits are almost twice as expensive and you can't be out of the country longer than one continuous year or your P/R status is revoked.

    Unfortunately, that you can get a thai immigrations officer to agree with your take that P/R status has no benefits, cuts no ice with me. It says more about thai immigrations total lack of understanding as far as what a foreigner holding P/R can and can't do than anything else.

    Believe me spending time out at Thai Immigrations ain't my first choice of places to hang around, meet foreigners and have "simulating conversation". Still, it is what it is, we all have crosses to bear I guess.

    I hereby ถอนคำพูด, umm, that's "retract what I said".. You are correct, you did not advise anyone else to break the rules as they are written regarding 90 day reporting.

    Sorry I came across harsh; I think it was hangin' around a room full of moronic foreigners today at Immigrations for 5+ hours.. That just about did me in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Sorry I came across harsh; I think it was hangin' around a room full of moronic foreigners today at Immigrations for 5+ hours.. That just about did me in.
    Makes me realize why I get the impression the immigration staff don't like us.

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    Honestly, my hat goes off to the entire Thai Immigrations staff since the government complex here in Bangkok got "held hostage" in these protests.

    I mean come on, it has to be the most god-forsaken fucked up jobs to do as far as "government work". Especially the staff which hasta deal with "white people" and who normally man the desks at thai immigrations out at the government complex on Chaengwattana road here in Bangkok.

    It's probably not too bad for the rank-n-file immigrations officers who routinely deal with the Burmese, Cambodians and Laotians at Major Suksawat and Imperial LadPrao Soi 83; mostly because the thaiz treat those nationalities like shit and those people don't make waves like white folk do..

    If I had to deal with the amount dumb-fuck foreigners who couldn't be bothered to even google what copies or what form they needed to extend their permission to stay and then explain it to them for the n-th time, I'd go postal for sure.

    I "volunteered" (as in killed time) for a couple hours today directing foreigners to the proper queues briefly outlining what copies they needed etc, until the people I was shepherding got their queue numbers called.. Even that took its toll on me.. I met a guy who bragged, "I've been living here 15+ years" then in the same breath asked, "What copies do I need?"

    Thai Immigrations is making the best of a piss poor situation using those two satellite Immigrations offices for something they were NEVER EVER designed for. Those two Immigrations offices in Bangkok, (Major Suksawat & BigC Lad Prao) were only designed for Cambodians, Burmese and Laotians.

    One foreigner behind me complained about the wait and I turned to him, said, "Do you see that queue of people that stretches down the hallway into the mall?" He said, "Yeah what's it for?" I said, "It's for the people who're supposed to be here normally. But because we're here they only get 4 out of 30+ windows to get their stuff done." He looked at them and I asked, "Do you see any of them complaining? He shook his head no, and I said, "Me neither, so shut the fuck up and wait your turn like a big boy." He didn't seem to take that all too well, but I wasn't out there to make friends or influence people.

    Again, I say kudos to Thai Immigrations for doing as good of a job as they are doing. Now if we can just get the protesting monk who's ransomed Chaengwattana to lighten up and let the government complex re-open, we'll all be back in tall cotton!

    Oh, as an aside, I know a TON of the Immigrations people; it's not that they don't like us, it's they're trying to do a job. They don't wanna be our friends; they wanna get your shit sorted out visa wise and go on to the next person.

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    Cheers for the info toddaniles.

    Could you please tell me how you obtained Permanent Residence or Citizenship?

    I need to go through the process soon, and it would be great if you could give me a step by step walkthrough of how you done it.

    I have been here 12 years (6 married with a 2 year old) and have enough extensions to get the ball rolling.

    Many thanks in advance.
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    There are a few good threads on other forums related to thailand which cover both thai citizenship and permanent resident stuff..

    As posting links to other forums could contravene forum rules, just use Google.

    One topic called "Camerata's Guide To The Permanent Residence Process" is a really useful thread, although you're gonna hafta wade thru 89+ pages of it.

    Another one is called; "Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application". It's good as well and just 38 pages to read thru!

    I know a LOT of foreigners with permanent resident status who went thru this or that law firm, but honestly, it's not nearly as convoluted as you think. Anyone with half a clue can get the documentation together that is required. It also appears that none of the people who used law firms were "fast tracked" in their process, so you're just paying someone to hold your hand is all..

    Oh, one last thing, people who are on extensions of stay based on what we foreigners call "retirement" are NOT eligible for permanent resident status OR thai citizenship. The only exception to that is IF that foreigner has been legally working and has a work permit along with that retirement extension.

    BTW: it is another urban myth that foreigners on "retirement extensions of stay" can't get work permits, because they most definitely can. Most of the time it's the company they're employed by which doesn't know how to do it, NOT the rules or the process of doing it. Even many law firms which specialize in doing stuff for foreigners parrot out the line that the Department of Labor prohibits it when in fact they don't..

    Good Luck,

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    Thanks for the detailed reply tod.

    I have read some of the stuff on TV (including the topic you mentioned) and researched on Google, but I am only a member here on TD and no other forums. I will not resign myself to signing up to TV due to the vast amount of posters who give opinions rather than facts, and I do not agree with their mod policies.

    Just a quick question and then I will leave you alone if that's o.k?

    Did you go for residency or citizenship and have you found any (non-obvious) advantages in daily life through the change of status.

    Sorry to bore you. I know that all the information I need is out there, but as stated, this is the only forum I post on, and thus the only media where I can get a clear answer from an individual such as yourself.

    Many thanks.

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    Sorry, you're askin' the wrong guy; as I've never gone down either of those roads here!

    I'm just a dumb hill-billy from Ohio who's lived in the glorious "Land 'O Thaiz" for the last 10 years. Nothing more nothing less. . .

    Now, I do have many foreign acquaintances who've gone both routes; although I don't know how much their daily lives are impacted by holding thai citizenship or P/R status. I do know it takes time, more time and then some more time waiting for the stuff to be processed, get signed off on, etc.

    The thing is, you don't need to be a member of said forum to read the posts. If you scan thru those oh-so long threads looking for the responses from both original posters, you can data mine quite a lot of good info from them.

    Just about any site thai related seems to be afflicted with the same malady as far as "posters who give opinions rather than facts". It is what it is, you take the good with the bad. If anything it's a good barometer to check and see if you've started dumbing yourself down concerning things here.

    Good Luck,

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    Why would you want citizenship or p/r here ? I just bowl up to choc chai every 90 days(15 minutes down the road) show my paperwork in and out in 5 minutes job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    Why would you want citizenship or p/r here ? I just bowl up to choc chai every 90 days(15 minutes down the road) show my paperwork in and out in 5 minutes job done.
    If you are not of retirement age and work here it insures that you can stay no matter your relationship status or job security. It works for some but is not for everybody.

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    Yeah ive got a retirement visa dont have any problems.

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    And "bobo746" you (like all of us) run the risk of the carpet being pulled out from under foot every year at the whim of this or that immigration official should they decide to "move the bar" and change the regulations.

    Remember none of us have the "right" to be here; what we get is "permission to stay" - granted a single year at a time.

    So bowl on up, turn in your 90 day report, but don't whine about the regulations getting changed when you're up for renewal next year if/when the powerz-that-b decide to move the proverbial bar!

    As I said, P/R status is not that hard to get; other than eating up a lot of time waiting for the approval. Still once they accept your paperwork for approval, you get endless permission to stay stamps free until it's finally approved!

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    all good mate if they fcuk me around i will just overstay for ever.i dont need to go back to oz for any reason so no visa no passport no problems.my bank account wont run out so its all good.

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    by the way you work for an agency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    by the way you work for an agency?
    And that question is relevant how?

    I try to post as accurate of information as I can get and if I don't know something, I'm the first to say; I'm not sure, or there are conflicting reports of such and such..

    True I come down pretty hard on b/s posters who immediately say, get a lawyer, pay under the table or otherwise try to circumvent the system that these people (the thaiz) have in place. That's just because I've never, as in not once here, seen a foreigner in such a world of hurt or one who had come off the rails to the extent that they needed anything more than a competent english/thai speaker who had a rudimentary grasp of what was required to resolve the situation to the satisfaction of the thaiz and the foreigner involved.

    Now don't get me wrong there are good law firms here which can and do hold foreigners hands thru things which a foreigner doesn't understand. It's just my experience that way too many foreigners immediately run to them and piss away money like water resolving things which aren't all that tough to begin with.

    We now return to the pissing match already in progress..

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    It's totally free to do unless you do it on the 8th day of it expiring, piece of piss to do where I am. I've been here for a few years and just do the gig.

    I get more pissed that the pricks require that I show pictures of my family outside and inside my house every time I do my marriage visa. Every year this and maps to my house, never mind all the other paperwork.

    How many maps do the need to my house, hells bells, 2 of my neighbors are cops. It's just stupid to me.
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