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    30 day stamp in infant's (dual nationality) UK passport

    Gents,

    Me (UK) wife (Thai) and 1 year-old kid (dual nationality Thai/UK) went to the UK last year. I came back early and when the wife came back she stamped the kid through on his UK passport, which was a 30 day stamp.

    I realised this the other day and we contacted Thai immigration who say that he'll have to pay overstay for the entire year, capped at 20,000THB. Is it truly truer than true that he as a Thai/UK national can be charged for staying in Thailand? Also, I read in many places that the fine can only be given to children over the age of seven.

    If I could get some gov website where it states something I can use in my case then I could wave it in people's faces. As it stands Thai immigration are saying that my son will now have to be incorporated into my WP and have to stamp in every 90 days... surely not.

    Any help anyone can give me is most appreciated.

    Many thanks,
    Chico

    P.S. I tried to find similar thread to no avail

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    Never heard a child have to pay and read of many instances over the years. My own kids before they had Thai Passports, but that was two or three days.....

    The real crime is entering a country of which you are a citizen on another passport when the first passport is available.....

    Again a baby, it'll be sorted..... sort it when you depart and don't deal with immigration inside, whole different kettle of fish.... They'll look for a payday especially as this is not a common thing for them.

    Deal with the guys at the airport at passport control, they'll smile and tickle baby and all will be well, you should stand off to the side....
    Last edited by Bobcock; 26-03-2014 at 04:26 PM.

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    Thanks Bobcock.

    This was my thinking but the wife is now getting involved asking Thai immigration and I can see them rubbing their hands now. It's killing me as I know they will try to levy the maximum charge etc etc.

    I reckon just one gov site with something stated will stump them and trump the fine, if they persist.

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    When I last did my 90 day report last month, there was a family there getting extensions of stay.

    The staff told them that they didn't have to do it for the kids, and I think I might have heard them say 12 years old.

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    Your wife talking to immigration here will cost you 20,000 you wouldn't have to pay at the airport......

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    If the kid has a Thai passport - leave on that next time?

    I'm sure this has been raised before and no overstay for children under 12.

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    i dont think this is a government agency but it is in print.


    http://www.tourismthailand.org/Trave...port-and-Visas

    From the site.

    The penalty for overstaying your visa is typically 500B per day, with a 20,000B limit. Fines can be paid upon departure at the airport. If you've only overstayed one day, you may not have to pay any fine or you may have to pay 1,000 baht, depending on the current regulations. Children less than 14 years old who are traveling with a parent or guardian are not required to pay any fines for overstays.

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    Cheers gents.

    That is along the lines that I am after Aging One, but I have been searching and searching gov site looking for something more official looking with the Thai emblem on top; nonetheless, thanks man.

    I think it'll take a small miracle to persuade the wife to just go for it at immigration at this point. She's a knobber like that.

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    Hey, hang on, aren't you supposed to have a valid return journey to be given a 30 day stamp? i.e. maybe that would void it.

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    Don't overcomplicate it Chico. Children under 14 don't have to pay overstay. That's the law. You have your answer. The link posted by Aging One is official. That site is the Tourist Authority of Thailand, TAT, the official government agency in charge of tourism.

    Show the link to your wife, she can see it in Thai by selecting the language option near the top of the page.
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    I think you might be right, Bobster!

    One thing though, the Thai option only translates the menu not the body of text, but surely that cannot be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Children less than 14 years old who are traveling with a parent or guardian are not required to pay any fines for overstays.
    Very true.

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    To avoid potential ploplems do a run over the border on his UK passport, and back into LoS with his Thai passport.

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    Question to OP .

    The better half wants to know how the childs passport was stamped , given that the area's for Thai's and Foreigners are seperate and apparently the staff at the Thai area have no authority to deal with foreign passports ?

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    Been through similar twice [2 kids] both arrived, different years on OZ passports.
    Thai passports issued in Ubon, both on overstay, crossed over to lao using OZ passports, returning on Thai.
    No fines no real problem, think 16 was fine time, but on 2nd child was told overstay goes on the computer, nothing really. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Question to OP .

    The better half wants to know how the childs passport was stamped , given that the area's for Thai's and Foreigners are seperate and apparently the staff at the Thai area have no authority to deal with foreign passports ?
    Mid never been through the foreign line when traveling with wife and kids, always directed into the Thai line. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Question to OP .

    The better half wants to know how the childs passport was stamped , given that the area's for Thai's and Foreigners are seperate and apparently the staff at the Thai area have no authority to deal with foreign passports ?
    Here's the thing, I've been bashing her about this but we only had a UK passport when he left in 2013 (his shiny new Thai one is in the post and will be here in a week) so he could only come in on that one, hence him getting the 30 day stamp.

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    thanxs for the reply Chico .

    I'd go with Bobcocks post #2 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    To avoid potential ploplems do a run over the border on his UK passport, and back into LoS with his Thai passport.
    Not possible, you cannot "swap" Passports at a Thai land border - they check for an exit Stamp from Thailand.

    You can only do the "swap" when re-entering via air.

    Patrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    To avoid potential ploplems do a run over the border on his UK passport, and back into LoS with his Thai passport.
    Not possible, you cannot "swap" Passports at a Thai land border - they check for an exit Stamp from Thailand.

    You can only do the "swap" when re-entering via air.

    Patrick
    Unless something has changed, I've done it twice, 2 nd child had to be entered on the computer leaving on an OZ passport, returning on a Thai passport.
    Land border Chong Mek, immigration even wrote on the passport saying it.
    Can't really stop a passport holder coming home.
    PS kid can leave Thailand on mothers ID card, return on a Thai/ UK issued passport, going to have a life time over stay, but their Thai, can't throw them out. Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    To avoid potential ploplems do a run over the border on his UK passport, and back into LoS with his Thai passport.
    Not possible, you cannot "swap" Passports at a Thai land border - they check for an exit Stamp from Thailand.

    You can only do the "swap" when re-entering via air.

    Patrick
    IF that's the case, fly over the border to put things back into sync.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    given that the area's for Thai's and Foreigners are seperate and apparently the staff at the Thai area have no authority to deal with foreign passports ?
    Not true unless it has changed. I always used the Thai queue when I lived there, as I was on whatever long term multi entry O visa thingy. They never minded.

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    There is no difference between the queues...... Just the sign, they'll deal with a foreigner at the Thai queue no problem and never has been unless the individual is a nasty twat.

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