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    1 year marriage visa (NOT extension or 12 month multi non 0) ??

    Anyone here heard of a 1 year marriage visa (I've not)? From my understanding... Its NOT a 12 month extension of stay based on marriage issued by immigration on your non-o visa, nor is it a 12 month valididy non-o multi entry visa issued outside of Thailand. It is a 'final marriage visa' issued in Thailand by immigration, renewable annually, no 90 day border runs needed. This is news to me, Thanks.

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    there is nothing called (or so legally) Marriage visa
    Its an yearly extension of stay based on marriage. simple
    and yes it does not require border run, but it requires a few documents which are easy to obtain if you are legitimately married to a Thai. + hardest thing is to get the 400.000 in the account for 60 days minimum period without touching it.
    depending on the office you get it done you will get a red stamp on top of the visa page that reads ( Thai Wife)
    i did years ago in mukdahan and (Thai wife) was stamped in english recently did it in chombury and it is in thai.

    Even the immigration refers to it as Marriage visa, but really it is an extension of stay (based on marriage)
    Sorry about me horrible speling

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    Not heard of it, sounds wrong. Visas are issued by an Embassy outside Thailand, not by immigration. Jim

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    Thanks for replies, Yes didn't sound right to me either. They are calling it 'final marriage visa' I was calling it 1 year extension based on marriage, at first I though it was just the terminoligy that was wrong but they clearly say its a 1 year visa not an extension of stay, issued by Chang Wattana Bangkok. Think I will give this one a miss.

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    I have heard grumblings from family who work in immigration about soon to be announced changes to the visa process and types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    I have heard grumblings from family who work in immigration about soon to be announced changes to the visa process and types.
    Hopefully they'll do away with the 90 day report? In fact I'm so pissed about the form filling for a Marriage Extention that I'm going for the Retirement Extention this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    I have heard grumblings from family who work in immigration about soon to be announced changes to the visa process and types.
    Don't changes usually mean things will becoming harder rather than easier? I've asked for some more details about the exactly what the visa is but the reply was to send them a scan copy of my exisitng visa to see if I would qualify for this visa, my existing non-o expired last month and I am on my final permission to stay stamp of my multi non o visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallery View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    I have heard grumblings from family who work in immigration about soon to be announced changes to the visa process and types.
    Don't changes usually mean things will becoming harder rather than easier? I've asked for some more details about the exactly what the visa is but the reply was to send them a scan copy of my exisitng visa to see if I would qualify for this visa, my existing non-o expired last month and I am on my final permission to stay stamp of my multi non o visa.
    Are you talking the immigration there or some sort of private deal.
    If immigration why would they need to see your current visa, it would be in the computer. Jim

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    Who is this "they" you keep referring to?
    Who has told or offered this new visa to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gallery View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    I have heard grumblings from family who work in immigration about soon to be announced changes to the visa process and types.
    Don't changes usually mean things will becoming harder rather than easier? I've asked for some more details about the exactly what the visa is but the reply was to send them a scan copy of my exisitng visa to see if I would qualify for this visa, my existing non-o expired last month and I am on my final permission to stay stamp of my multi non o visa.
    Are you talking the immigration there or some sort of private deal.
    If immigration why would they need to see your current visa, it would be in the computer. Jim
    A private visa company, I responed to an advertisment to see what they were offering. I've told them exactly what Visa I have, its expiry date and the expiry date of my permission to stay stamp, have not them them a copy did not see why they would need and did not feel confident to send it to a stranger although not sure what use it would be to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Who is this "they" you keep referring to?
    Who has told or offered this new visa to you?
    I responded to an advertisment to see what they were offering. Am I allowed to name them here?

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    ^ you can.
    Most likely a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    ^ you can.
    Most likely a scam.
    ad on bahtsold Instant Thai Visa

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallery
    Thai Visa
    Anything that start with Thaivisa is either a lot of shit or a scam.:blink:

    OP listen to some of the advise here, ther is nothing like that,
    it is all extensions,
    get your extension done legitimately if finances allow,

    at the end of your multi non type o visa do a run to the border one day before it finishes and you will get another 90 days, giving you 15 months on what is called a 12 month multi entry non immigrant type O.

    i recently heard of a company that will give you a marriage extension for 25.000
    no money,no problem.
    valid real from the immigration office, they have someone inside the office.
    genuine number in the computer and all. so they say.
    Last edited by poorfalang; 05-07-2013 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by "gallery"
    Thai Visa
    Anything that start with Thaivisa is either a lot of shit or a scam.:blink:

    OP listen to some of the advise here, ther is nothing like that,
    it is all extensions,
    get your extension done legitimately if finances allow,

    at the end of your multi non type o visa do a run to the border one day before it finishes and you will get another 90 days, giving you 15 months on what is called a 12 month multi entry non immigrant type O.

    i recently heard of a company that will give you a marriage extension for 25.000
    no money,no problem.
    valid real from the immigration office, they have someone inside the office.
    genuine number in the computer and all. so they say.
    Yes this is what I always thought, I actually have a non o multi (marriage) at the moment (expired June) from KL and I am on the final stamp which gives me until August. Its the money in the Thai bank thats causing me problems (see my other post from last week). Theres a company here in Phuket that will get a 1 year extension stamp form local immigration, if you can provide all the other paperwork they will do all the legwork and sort out the 400,000thb you need to show, there fee 25,000THB. I am MUCH happier to get another non-o as before, even if it means doing border runs at least I am sure it was legitimately obtained. I can't get solid confirmation from KL they will accept the equivalent of 400,000THB from a bank outside Thailand, even calling them did not get me a 100% answer. I know I can still go to Savanakhet but this trip to KL has been booked up already.

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    ^ I wouldnt touch that company mate ,, thats illegal for sure as the money they are emerging out of the mist has to be seasoned for 3 months ( I know others will say 2 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    In fact I'm so pissed about the form filling for a Marriage Extention that I'm going for the Retirement Extention this year.
    I stopped doing the 'marriage' extension years ago. (Pain in the arse)
    Just got back from Imm this morning. Retirement renewal.
    Entered at 10.01. Completed and exited at 10.12.
    I was F****ing amazed!

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    "Necron99" - Hearing grumblings from someone who "works" at Chaengwattana, and seeing real changes to the Police Order which is currently in effect concerning visas and extensions are "whores from different bars", whoops, I mean "horses of a different color"... Got my idioms mixed up...

    If you had any idea the number of paper pushers, stamp pad re-inkers, pencil sharpeners, staple re-fillers and other "busy work" people who work out there, you'd take rumors like this with a grain of rice, err salt. I'm not saying changes aren't ever comin', but I'd imagine anything as all encompassing and sweeping as Immigrations rule reform is gonna have the Thais tooting their own horn long before the changes ever happen..

    Now why "pragmatic" would be so pissed about filling in the form for a yearly extension of stay based on marriage versus retirement is beyond me seeing as they BOTH use the exact same form; TM-7. Perhaps they're really miffed about the myraid of copies, pictures, and documentation they need for the marriage extension versus the relatively simple documentation required for a retirement extension.

    Back On Topic;
    I concur there is NO "one year marriage visa" it's either a Multi-Entry Non-Immigrant Type O (for being married to a thai national). This is the type where you "run for the border" every 90 days and can get 15 months out of if you time the runs right.
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    There's a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai national.

    Face it, if even Immigrations calls an extension of stay a "marriage visa" or a "retirement visa" I highly doubt that a nudge-nudge-wink-wink visa service knows what to call it either.

    In other news, last year a company offering services just like the one you mentioned got busted, when their "inside man" evidently wasn't all that happy with their cut and ratted them out. Immigrations tracked down as many of the visas from that company as they could and voided them. I heard the inside man was "transferred to an inactive post". As I remember that company didn't target 'white people" and mostly did visas for indians & pakis. Still I did remember hearing about it at the Police Station where I volunteer.

    I'm not saying those services aren't out there, I'm saying if push comes to shove, you're the one holding a visa gotten with false information.

    As an aside to "jamescollister". I don't know why you keep saying that.. Visas are indeed issued inside the country, for foreigners wanting to convert either a 15 or 30 day visa exempt stamp or a 60 day tourist into a Non-O to start the marriage or retirement extension process. I've shepherded more foreigners than I can count thru the process at Chaengwattana and they all came away with a single entry 90 Non-Immigrant Type-O visa stamped into their passport with the word "used" stamped over it..
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    You can extend a visa at immigration, but you can't get one, big difference.

    And there is a lot of new rules to come into effect at immagration, is all about 2015 ASEAN. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    You can extend a visa at immigration, but you can't get one, big difference.

    And there is a lot of new rules to come into effect at immagration, is all about 2015 ASEAN. Jim
    Sorry to the O/P for the OFF-TOPIC:
    That is just plain wrong information Jim. I've outlined how to do it on another thread, and even on other web forums about Thailand too.

    You can apply for AND get a single entry 90 day Non-Immigrant Type-O visa at Chaengwattana in section C-1 (that's the section right next to where you get re-entry permits and to the left before you go into the room where you do your 90 day reporting). Why do you think Thai Immigrations has form TM-87 which is called in English; "Application for visa" and labeled in Thai as; คำขอรับตรวจลงตรา??

    I've had people get a Type-O if they're going to apply for a yearly extension of stay based on retirement or a yearly extension based on marriage to a Thai national.

    I'd hafta check my files to get a real count, but I've shepherded more than 25-30 people out to Chaengwattana so they could get a 90 day Non-Immigrant Type-O visa. Last time I checked Chaengwattana is inside Thailand.

    Those people came into the country either on 15 day, a 30 day visa exempt stamps or on tourist visas. It does take three trips to Immigrations to go from a visa exempt to the 90 day Non-O to finally getting their yearly extension of stay based on retirement (and four trips if it's based on marriage) but man it definitely can be done, cause I sat right there and watched it happen time and again..

    In a meeting not that long ago I had the chance to sit in on with some pretty high ups at the Office of Immigration Bureau; most of what they were talking about as far as the "sweeping changes" in the works were in regards to reciprocal visas and other changes for ASEAN member countries. In fact after listening to them bloviate for over a couple hours, I only heard one thing mentioned about foreigners (aka; white people) and it was just stats on entries/exits from the US/UK/EU.

    Granted I didn't sit thru the entire mind numbing day long meeting; mostly because I've found people in those meetings like to hear the sound of their own voices and they tend to talk alot with out sayin' a whole heck of a lot..

    I guess we're gonna hafta agree to disagree about getting a Non-O inside the country; although I'd bet dollars to durian I'm right, because I've done it before..

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    TD you you say you are on expert in visas and have attended high level discussions on the subject. ASEAN and it has nothing to do with farang etc.

    Please enlighten me.
    You arrive at an airport or border crossing and don't want a visa exempt, are the immigration allowed to give you a 60 or 90 day visa, same cops as the immigration office. Never heard of it.

    Now you in all your wisdom on the subject may well know, does ASEAN

    mention farang, Chinese, Indians or just aliens.

    Now I am lead to believe you can by a Cambodian passport for around 10.000 US Dollars, have friends in Lao with PR and one with a 30 lease on a coffee plantation an a ongoing business permission to stay. I can get a business visa for ,I am told in Cambodia for less than my costs in Thailand.

    These people can cross the border at any time, not paying any visa costs and you are saying ASEAN will have no effect on aliens in 2015.

    Think you should have stayed for the full lecture, lots of laws are being changed because of ASEAN. Jim

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