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    Phuket immigration wankers

    I went in tuesday to get my visa changed from tourist to non-imOA retirement visa.
    I dutifully filled out the forms and all the copies all ready to present when the power went out. They informed everyone no more visa today. I didn't get time yesterday so I went this morning bright and early. I present my papers and passport and the motherfucker says no he cant do it because my 30 day tourist visa expires today. They made buy a stupid 7 day extension for 1900 baht and told me I have to leave the country, and then come back, WTF! I just looked this smirking motherfucker and said you must be making this up. The fuck just shook his head and grinned. I wanted to strangle someone. Fuck me this is first time I heard of this little detail.
    Now I got an excuse to go to Penang and eat some.indian food.and drink some of that good beer down there, I reckon.
    What a bunch of fucking chickenshit bullshit. Sometimes this country pisses me off to no end.. Wankers
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    can only get a retirement extension if you already have a non-imm. visa.

    it cant be done on a tourist visa. so you wouldnt have got one yesterday either.

    you will need to get a non-imm. visa in penang.

    enjoy penang, its a fine town.

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    No they said they would have done it yesterday. I dont know where that myth comes from. I heard that before probably crap proliferated from thaivisa.

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    strange, i thought that you could only get a retirement extension on a non-imm. visa.

    they must do things differently in phuket.

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    Those immigration wankers, in any country. sure revel in the power trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    strange, i thought that you could only get a retirement extension on a non-imm. visa.

    they must do things differently in phuket.
    I thought that also for a long time and perhaps true for the first one. But since I had numerous non im OA visas in the past I able to change from a tourist visa. My last one expired while I was in South America.
    I could have just gone to the hospital gotten a check up and a 90 day medical excuse, hindsight is great!

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    I had the same trouble with this bunch of ****s a few months ago.
    They love fcking with you because they can.
    It took all my willpower to walk out without smacking the fat grinning prick who had just asked me for a tip and who was now having a good laugh with the other backrow pricks.
    You can change a tourist visa to non imm O then change it to retirement.Cost me 3900 bht I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by richie22
    You can change a tourist visa to non imm O then change it to retirement.
    Correct, bit I think it can only be done at certain offices.
    I presume this is because the Non Imm O is issued by The MFA, not Immigration.
    The sad thing is that most offices won't tell you to go to Bangkok to change your Tourist Visa to a Non Imm O.
    They will tell you that you must go abroad to get it.
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    Whilst I empathize with your situation one should never leave important things like this until the last day!

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    ^yea I know, but I still dont understand why my tourist visa is less valid today the day it expires than it was yesterday. They couldn't explain it!
    What really rankled was paying 1900 fucking baht for a seven day extension. I told them what I thought too I'm afraid, I called them "Kamoi". I probably shouldn't use Phuket imm. ever again.

    Anyway I needed an excuse to go to Penang to see some people I've been wanting to meet. I'll take a couple of weeks and ride the motorcycle down to Melaka and Singapore too.
    What the hey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Whilst I empathize with your situation one should never leave important things like this until the last day!
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
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    great place, loved it there, must do a thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    No they said they would have done it yesterday. I dont know where that myth comes from. I heard that before probably crap proliferated from thaivisa.
    they were talking crap, as usual, you can't switch from a tourist visa to non-OA without getting out of the country. Might be done with an agent paying off the officials, but on your own, mission impossible

    You are dealing with idiot monkeys who play games with your mind, so don't believe anything they say. To get a TM7 extension for up to 1 year, you will need a valid stay under a non-resident visa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by richie22
    You can change a tourist visa to non imm O then change it to retirement.
    Correct, bit I think it can only be done at certain offices.
    I presume this is because the Non Imm O is issued by The MFA, not Immigration.
    The sad thing is that most offices won't tell you to go to Bangkok to change your Tourist Visa to a Non Imm O.
    They will tell you that you must go abroad to get it.
    also I don't think it can be done on your own, you will have to go through agents who will make sure to pay off the right official so things get done as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    No they said they would have done it yesterday. I dont know where that myth comes from. I heard that before probably crap proliferated from thaivisa.
    they were talking crap, as usual, you can't switch from a tourist visa to non-OA without getting out of the country. Might be done with an agent paying off the officials, but on your own, mission impossible

    You are dealing with idiot monkeys who play games with your mind, so don't believe anything they say. To get a TM7 extension for up to 1 year, you will need a valid stay under a non-resident visa
    I did first go to Ranong imm where I usually get my OA visa and they would have changed the tourist visa for me a couple of weeks ago, but I'd forgoten my bank book in Phuket and I figured I could just get it done in Phuket. I'd forgoten what officious little monkey pricks these flaming assholes in Phuket imm can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by richie22
    You can change a tourist visa to non imm O then change it to retirement.
    Correct, bit I think it can only be done at certain offices.
    I presume this is because the Non Imm O is issued by The MFA, not Immigration.
    The sad thing is that most offices won't tell you to go to Bangkok to change your Tourist Visa to a Non Imm O.
    They will tell you that you must go abroad to get it.
    Samui doesn't allow it, I've tried.
    "Could do before, can't do anymore" was the response.
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    In udon thani they changed from Nong kai where they where staffed by ignorant rude morons, I used to dread going there.
    To a new office at Udon.
    Great people, friendly & competent. Our immigation woes are over, for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by richie22
    You can change a tourist visa to non imm O then change it to retirement.
    Correct, bit I think it can only be done at certain offices.
    I presume this is because the Non Imm O is issued by The MFA, not Immigration.
    The sad thing is that most offices won't tell you to go to Bangkok to change your Tourist Visa to a Non Imm O.
    They will tell you that you must go abroad to get it.
    also I don't think it can be done on your own, you will have to go through agents who will make sure to pay off the right official so things get done as they should.
    No agent I did it a couple of months ago here in Phuket.
    They didn't make it easy but they did it.
    I was on a retirement visa but due to a cock up with the bank holding on to my transferred funds my 800 k was a couple days late so I had to leave the country get a tourist visa then go back a few days later when the money had been in the bank for the full 90 days
    I know rules are rules but 2 fckin days late.
    It's just their attitude when I asked what I had to do The smarmy prick just waved me away and said Go Another Country No Come Back If You No Like.

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    A few of my mates who could and have been on retirement visa's have give them up and would rather do visa runs than deal with Phuket Immigration

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    Phuket Immigration is dealing this year in particular with some pretty rotten assholes in the costume of Russians, Indians and Chinese tourists. I think anyone's bullshit tolerance levels would be reached after dealing with these people for several months in succession. I do agree that Phuket Immigration can be a sterile environment when it comes to reason or logic.

    We all had to go out for our initial Non-im O visa. Its part and parcel of the lessons learned here. I had the same indignation on my first attempt at getting a Retirement O visa. Exit to KL early morning flight, off to Thai Embassy before 10:00, return to Thai Embassy by 16:00, pick up Passport and Non Im. O visa stamp, back to KL airport for early evening flight return to Bangkok. All in a days work. You can manage the same routing if you choose to visit Penang as well.

    Its a pain in the ass, but once done you have the satisfaction of knowing its the last time you'll have this fruck around. Of course they'll think or create new piss-off methods for you every year on application as the rules change by the Immigration individuals personal feelings on that particular day. Its always an adventure.

    BTW, the new authority in the Phuket Immigrations offices is a lady. She takes no prisoners. The amount of backhanding has diminished considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I didn't get time yesterday so I went this morning bright and early.
    So your problem has nothing to do with the power outage on Tuesday...

    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal
    Whilst I empathize with your situation one should never leave important things like this until the last day!
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I told them what I thought too I'm afraid, I called them "Kamoi".
    Good move, I'm sure that will really help your cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    So your problem has nothing to do with the power outage on Tuesday...
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    No my problem was with what seems to an arbitrary rule regarding not soliciting the visa on the last day of your current visa's validity. My tourist visa was valid at the time, a visa is either valid or its not. They could have given me a visa but they chose to be the nasty little pricks that they are. What do they get out it? Nothing.
    I really don't mind cuz I get to take a holiday in Malaysia. So they actually did me a favor unknowingly, the stupid bureaucrat monkeys.

    And I never have to set foot in Phuket imm if I don't want to. Doing visas in Ranong is by far and away a much more pleasant experience. Last time I got the visa there I was in and out in 30 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    I went in tuesday to get my visa changed from tourist to non-imOA retirement visa.
    I dutifully filled out the forms and all the copies all ready to present when the power went out. They informed everyone no more visa today. I didn't get time yesterday so I went this morning bright and early. I present my papers and passport and the motherfucker says no he cant do it because my 30 day tourist visa expires today. They made buy a stupid 7 day extension for 1900 baht and told me I have to leave the country, and then come back, WTF! I just looked this smirking motherfucker and said you must be making this up. The fuck just shook his head and grinned. I wanted to strangle someone. Fuck me this is first time I heard of this little detail.
    Now I got an excuse to go to Penang and eat some.indian food.and drink some of that good beer down there, I reckon.
    What a bunch of fucking chickenshit bullshit. Sometimes this country pisses me off to no end.. Wankers
    I have been dealing with Phuket immigration for over 22 years and I love them, they are kind and helpful and i am never there more than 30 minutes to do extensions and re-entry even if there is a line in front of me. If you had gone in 4 to 5 days before ( as anyone that has any brains would have done) u would have had time, TO wait until the last day is just plain stupid. If u had NOT lost ur temper and smiled and had asked Politely what can u do to make it right they would have helped u.

    2 weeks ago my friend went in for his yearly retirement extension renewal. He had screwed up and taken out 10,000 baht from the 800,000 and then put it back they next day. Immigration caught it and showed him., telling him he had to go get a new visa. Rather than losing his cool and yelling , he asked how he could make it right. They asked him how much it would cost to go to HK for him and his wife ( as her visa is tied to his ) stay in hotel, apply for new visa etc etc, then offered to make it all right for 10,000 baht.
    OK corruption but it saved him double that and time.

    Smile, allow them to feel superior and u will have no problems.

    Many times i have been to them and they have filed out the forms for me for my re-entry permit as it was late. I have NEVER given tips or bottles but i have been polite an allowed them to feel superior. IT's all a game and u play by their rules or leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard View Post
    they are kind and helpful .
    yea right, and pigs really do fly in Phuket.
    Next you'll be telling us tuk tuk drivers are gentle spirits.

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    They asked him how much it would cost to go to HK for him and his wife ( as her visa is tied to his ) stay in hotel, apply for new visa etc etc, then offered to make it all right for 10,000 baht.
    OK corruption but it saved him double that and time.

    you or your friend obviously threw your morals and pride out of the window when you arrived in thailand if you think that is the correct way to handle that situation.



    the more that people kow tow to these extorting jobsworths and their sleazy ways the more they become empowered and brazen in their demands.

    there would be no corruption if people refused to pay these government employed crooks.

    your friend made the mistake by withdrawing the money, he should have accepted responsibility for that error and made the trip to hong kong, not bribed an official to overlook it.

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