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    Inlingua closes flagship head office and branch, others to follow?

    A friend who works for Inlingua tells me that the company are closing (in a few weeks) their Head Office and branch at Central Chit Lom. The Head Teacher and all salaried staff are getting the push, and the admin and Corporate department are moving to Esplanade on Ratchada.

    Interesting that just a week or so ago, one full-time work-permitted teacher was told he would have to take a whopping 75% pay cut this month (and perhaps even longer) , or he may be given notice if he didn't agree. He is unsure how many other full-timers will also have been given the same ultimatum. He hasn't ben contacted since, but it would mean that his 35,000 minimum salary would be reduced to 8,750 baht - who can live on that?

    One has to wonder if the MD, DoS, Head Teachers and other senior staff will be taking the same whopping cut, voluntarily or otherwise.

    It's astonishing that a company which has tried to place itself at the top of the tree, appealing to the 'hi-so' level of society, has fancy-dancy upmarket branches, does not have the reserves or liquidity to weather a 4 week storm caused by the floods.

    Also interesting that THREE head teachers left in as many months some time back, one of whom seems to have either jumped before he was pushed, or maybe had a hefty nudge.

    I am told other branches are under active consideration so there's going to be a lot of changes soon - and the same people also own ECC so what will happen there?

    Time to get the ticket home for some, maybe many.

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    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them

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    The current economic crisis will ensure that many firms will go to the wall. In reality they only act as middlemen in the the teaching of English. They are helpful only because they make employment legal by providing work permits, etc.

    The way forward for the Thai people is to enable quaified English teachers to work on a self-employed basis and start their own small language schools. This would result in better tuition, cheaper hourly rates and fewer fancy offices of the type mentioned above.

    Alternatively, all English tuition should be placed under the control of the Ministry of Education with individual teachers being licensed to teach at state schools or other government buildings.

    The cost of English tuition is far too high and Thai people have been ripped off as a consequence of the bureaucratic and inefficient controls which operate there.

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    interesting point, makes sense actually

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    can123 # 3
    The current economic crisis will ensure that many firms will go to the wall. In reality they only act as middlemen in the the teaching of English. They are helpful only because they make employment legal by providing work permits, etc.
    Sadly a work permit from these places is about as rare as a pork pie in a mosque. Licencing is in place for teachers within approved schools not the language schools.I hold and have done for many years a Thai teaching licence

    The greater majority of the language schoools and teaching agencies do not give paid holidays, health insurance time for correect visa applications and as regards formal qualifications 90% of the D.O.S. and H.R. managers along with head teachers in these outfits only know a degree from temperature measurement.

    Supermarket assistant manager running a school in Bang Na for instance, a taxi driver running another school in Bang Na the list is endless no criminal checks on anyone.

    Sad state of affairs that reflects on those trying and doing a good job qualified or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortesquesmythebrown View Post
    can123 # 3
    The current economic crisis will ensure that many firms will go to the wall. In reality they only act as middlemen in the the teaching of English. They are helpful only because they make employment legal by providing work permits, etc.
    Sadly a work permit from these places is about as rare as a pork pie in a mosque. Licencing is in place for teachers within approved schools not the language schools.I hold and have done for many years a Thai teaching licence

    The greater majority of the language schoools and teaching agencies do not give paid holidays, health insurance time for correect visa applications and as regards formal qualifications 90% of the D.O.S. and H.R. managers along with head teachers in these outfits only know a degree from temperature measurement.

    Supermarket assistant manager running a school in Bang Na for instance, a taxi driver running another school in Bang Na the list is endless no criminal checks on anyone.

    Sad state of affairs that reflects on those trying and doing a good job qualified or not.
    Only a minority of teachers at Inlingua hold work permits and have part time jobs. I know for sure that at least one HT in Nonthaburi is on a tourist visa and has been for some years, and another one in the same area is in the same boat.

    Inlingua want bums on seats and they don't have the liquid assets to cope with a downturn in the market - it's all going into someone's back pocket, not back into the business.

    How else could they not manage to weather a short 3 to 4 week crisis without closing branches, reducimng salaries by 75% and sacking full-time work-permitted people? Most companies with foresight and good management can go at LEAST 6 months before they start borrowing to cover debts.

    I can live for at least 6 months with no income - why can't ITEC Group with Inlingua, ECC, Dream maker and a couple of resorts bringing in revenue?

    Good management? I think not. Greed and complancency, much more likely. The taxman should be doing a thorough audit of the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit hot, believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    reducing salaries by 75%
    This part is hard to believe. They might as well fire his arse.
    Are you sure you got that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    That's very judgmental of you Butters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit hot, believe it or not.
    Yeah, for example, we know that 'scum' is an uncountable noun and hence should not be pluralized with an 's' at the end. We know how to use full stops too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orroz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    reducing salaries by 75%
    This part is hard to believe. They might as well fire his arse.
    Are you sure you got that right?
    I think that's what they are trying to do - Thai-style. Make him so pissed of he leaves with minimum hassle. He doesn't seem to be making much of a stand for himself though - I'd have told them no way, give me full pay this mnth and fire me and I'll see you in the Labour Court for breach of contract.
    Still a Pink Floyd space cadet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Fixit
    I'll see you in the Labour Court for breach of contract.
    You cant go to the court without a work permit !!

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    ^yes you can. The existence of a WP matters not when the labour laws are being interpreted. Personally, I wouldn't like to go to court with having a WP, but definitely the court wouldn't take it into consideration if you did. It is not within their remit. Although other agencies may be informed and be watching the matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    That's very judgmental of you Butters.
    Not setting a good example are you Flutterby, judging by your spelling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Pom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Fixit
    I'll see you in the Labour Court for breach of contract.
    You cant go to the court without a work permit !!
    This guy HAS a WP!! And goostewart is correct - they don't take immigration matters into account and strictly administer labour laws.

    Whether Immi get hold of it is another matter, but don't forget the company employing someone illegally will also get a kick in the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit, believe it or not.
    We believe you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit, believe it or not.
    We believe you.
    Yes you are, especially in bodging posts - you forgot to use HOT in the original post.

    You, on the other hand, are piss-poor, and it shows. Oh, how it shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    you forgot to use HOT in the original post.
    oh dear, completely over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Fixit View Post
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    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit hot, believe it or not.
    Yeah, for example, we know that 'scum' is an uncountable noun and hence should not be pluralized with an 's' at the end. We know how to use full stops too.
    How's your French?

    Reckon you could get by on a French web board???
    How do I post these pictures???

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    Oh here we go again, why don't all you fuking teachers just fuk off back to them other web sites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
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    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    That's very judgmental of you Butters.
    Just a trolling statement to get a nibble!
    FR this is the teachers thread I think it is the right place for this high-brow level off discourse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Irrumator
    you forgot to use HOT in the original post.
    oh dear, completely over your head.
    Yours. I think, not mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
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    Those English schools and those working in it are the equivalents of the bar scene crowd including whores and bar owners,

    they are actually worse

    scums, all of them
    Dickhead. Most are useless, but some of us are pretty shit hot, believe it or not.
    Yeah, for example, we know that 'scum' is an uncountable noun and hence should not be pluralized with an 's' at the end. We know how to use full stops too.
    How's your French?

    Reckon you could get by on a French web board???
    Well, I know a French letter when I see one.

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    Irrumator

    Well, I know a French letter when I see one.
    Pity your mother didn't you sniveling brown nosed snitch

    Irrumator who boasted elsewhere how, he, she, it, informed inlingua of the post.

    Trying for a managers post are we?

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    [quote=andrewdicksonsmith;1938665]
    Where the fuck did you come from?
    Anyway, carry on girls, handbags and all that.

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