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Two senior teachers accused of raping an eight-year-old student of a Bangkok school have been suspended from duty and face possible dismissal. Meanwhile the victim, a second grade student from Nan, has been transferred to another school and given emotional counselling on the orders of Bangkok governor Apirak Kosayodhin.
Mr Apirak said physical education teacher Pimol Sunsri, 48, and class supervisor Lon Soraganit, 58 _ who allegedly sexually abused the girl at the school in the Sai Mai area _ have been relieved of their duties. They are now facing disciplinary investigations and will be fired if found guilty.
Both teachers, however, denied the charges of rape and of taking a girl under 15 years of age away from her parents. They insisted they had an alibi. The teachers were caught separately at the school.
Mr Apirak said the criminal investigation needs expanding to see if there were any other victims.
Kamronwit Toopkrachang, commander of the Crime against Children, Juveniles and Women Suppression Division (CCSD), said another girl in the same school has come forward to inform police that she too had been raped by the suspects, both holding senior C-7 rank.
The two teachers were arrested after the second grade student's mother alerted police to the alleged rapes, which took place on July 6 and 21 in a classroom and at a teacher's house. The girl had been enrolled in the school for two months.
Mr Pimol claimed he may have been framed by a co-worker who was closely acquainted with the victim's mother.
Protesting his innocence, he said that on July 6, the school held a futsal competition and he was watching the game the whole time. He also has a witness who could tell police where he was on July 21, he said.
Mr Lon also dismissed the allegation, saying his career has never been tainted and he has no conflict with anyone. Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit said there was strong evidence to prosecute the suspects

bangkok post

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Marmite the Dog

What's the chance of finding any positive news?

dirtydog

I believe william has an ongoing thread for good news, I think over the last few weeks it has had 2 posts in it

Thetyim

The largest girl's school in Phrae has an officier who is responsible for investigating and disciplining teachers who mis behave.

When he was appointed they chose to overlook the fact that he is about 50 and has been living with his 21 year old 'wife' for three years and that she is an ex-pupil from the school.

Dougal

They obviously picked the most qualified candidate for the job.

dirtydog

Emotional scenes at Bangkok primary where five 8-year-olds were abused



A Bangkok school yesterday held a rite to show support for two teachers accused of raping five primary students.

About 1,000 people gathered outside the gates of Prachanukul School in Sai Mai district to show support for Lorn Sorakanit and Pimol Chunsri, who were arrested last Thursday for the alleged serial rape of 8-year-old pupils.

About 30 police were on duty to prevent violence. No outsiders were allowed through the gates, from which banners were hung with messages such as "Who is the real wrongdoer harming our students?" and "The foundation with wrong information oppresses teachers of Sai Mai district".

At 3pm, the school allowed reporters to enter and brought the two teachers to worship before a monk's statue and swear their innocence. When the school director led a ritual to comfort the accused pair, they burst into tears.

Sixth-grade student Yonlada Korkijcharoenkul, who represented the pupils, made a speech on stage in which she said she had no idea whether the teachers were guilty, but to her they were good and kind.

After she finished her speech, the accused teachers went upstairs without giving an interview.

The pair were released on bail after parents of the alleged victims sought help from the Paveena Hongsakul Foundation for Women and Children, which filed a complaint with police. The girls underwent physical examinations, which revealed evidence of rape.

School director Patchanee Khamvit said she believed in the teachers and would wait for the justice system to run its course. She said the school was not protecting the teachers, but that people only had one side of the story and lacked real information.

"If it is finally found that our teachers are not the wrongdoers, I will ask the media to apologise to us for damaging the school's reputation," she said.

Police interviewed three of the five girls separately and said the girls insisted they were raped and threatened by the teachers. Maj-General Kamronwit Thoopkrajang, commander of the Division for the Suppression of Crimes against Children and Women, said the police had been considering withdrawing the teachers' bail.

After they were released on bail, the alleged victims' parents said they received many threatening calls from anonymous people asking them to drop the case, he said.

"We have only two witnesses to question and then we can conclude the [investigation phase] of the case," Kamronwit said.

Bangkok Governor Apirak Kosayodhin has set up a fact-finding committee and sent social workers to the school to look after the alleged victims and their parents.

The two teachers have filed a libel suit against Paveena, Kamronwit and the mother of a girl who was allegedly raped. They accused the three of incriminating them as rapists.
According to the suit, the teachers said Paveena might be displeased with them as a result of the last election, when Paveena was a candidate for the Sai Mai constituency and they were ballot officers at a poll booth.

Noppadol Srithaveekard
The Nation

kingwilly

Damn - thats a serious punishment!

obviously doesnt prove that they ARE guilty but doesnt that mean the kid HAS been raped then ?

hunter

Sounds as though someone has raped someone. Pretty serious stuff.

dirtydog

The parents of all nine schoolgirls at the centre of a sexual molestation scandal have submitted a joint request for their children to be transferred out of Prachanukul School.



Six girls have said they wish to attend schools outside Bangkok while the other three want to go to schools in Sai Mai district, where Prachanukul is located.

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, which runs Prachanukul, is seeking Bt5,000 in emergency student loans for each of the nine girls.

Deputy city clerk Anant Siraphassaraphorn said the nine girls underwent rehabilitation and results showed that they were still mentally stable, but the effects of what happened might show up in the long run.

The two teachers accused of raping and molesting five of the girls requested a new team of police investigators.

Lorn Sorakanit and Pimol Chunsri said head investigator Maj-General Khamronwit Thoppkrajang told a press conference on Wednesday that they raped the girls even though no charges had been filed against them.

A motorcycle taxi driver surfaced as a key witness after he publicly chastised a mother who claimed a bite mark on her daughter's arm was made by one of the two teachers. Pramote Phiphob said it was his own son who bit the girl last month when the two eighth graders fought.
He said the mother even threatened to sue him after he refused to pay her Bt400 for a bill she advanced after taking the girl to a clinic to treat and dress the wound. He offered to testify in court against the woman for twisting the truth.

the nation

dirtydog

Court orders rape suspects to undergo DNA testing by police, not Pornthip



The Criminal Court yesterday rejected the request of two teachers accused of raping some of their students to let renowned pathologist Pornthip Rojanasunand conduct DNA tests on them instead of forensic police.

"We might petition directly to Khunying Pornthip," said Kingkeaw Yommuang, the attorney of the two teachers from Prachanukul School in Bangkok's Sai Mai district.

Lorn Sorakanit, 58, and Pimol Chunsri, 48, who were arrested on suspicion of serial rape of

eight-year-old students, have

been ordered to undergo forensic tests at the police's forensic department.

However, the suspects want Pornthip, acting deputy director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, to hold the test for them instead because they do not believe in the fairness of the police in the Division for Suppression of Crimes against Children and Women.

The court declined the defendants' petition and ordered them to meet forensic police.

The defence lawyer said his clients might ask police for a new investigating team because they suspect that their case was being treated improperly.

"Police have given [media] interviews that they already had enough evidence for the case but when we met the police today, they said the investigation had not been completed yet.

"It shows that police might not have enough evidence to prove the suspects' guilt," the lawyer said.

Lorn said he knew Pavena Hongsakul, president of the Pavena Foundation for Women and Children, who took the alleged victims to the police station to file their complaint. He showed reporters a photo of him taken with Pavena when she presided over the funeral of his daughter.

The two teachers earlier said Pavena was trying to incriminate them as she might harbour a grudge against them as a result of losing the last election, when Pavena was a candidate for the Sai Mai constituency and they were ballot officers at a polling station. But Pavena denied that she had ever known Lorn before.

Lorn and Pimol went to the Division for the Suppression of Crimes against Children and Women for further inquiry and ran into the grandmother of one of the alleged victims.

The angry grandmother walked up Lorn to condemn him and tried to attack him before the lawyer and police stepped in to stop her.

"I can't stand this anymore, how could they do that with the small girls and right in the school," she told reporters in tears.

Parents of the alleged victims said they needed the police to cancel the suspects' bail because after they were released, the parents received many life-threatening calls from anonymous people asking them to drop the case.

Police traced the calls and found they were made at public phone booths in the school's community.

Anan Siriphassaraporn, deputy clerk of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, criticised the principal of Prachanukul School for the assembly that the school held on Tuesday for co-teachers and students to show support for the two accused teachers.
"What the school did might put pressure on the girls and their parents," he said.

BANGKOK POST

dirtydog

A preliminary investigation into allegations of sexual abuse at a Bangkok school is complete.



However, its findings will remain under wraps until a Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) probe has reached its conclusions, according to deputy city clerk Anant Siriphassaraphorn yesterday.

The Sai Mai district office has completed an investigation into allegations several students were raped and abused by two teachers at a school in its area.

Once both investigations were finished, results would be made public, probably next month, Anant said.

There may be a need for a subsequent inquiry if findings were contradictory, he noted.

"We need to look at the big picture and if the findings are accurate. We cannot too hurriedly reach a conclusion. More evidence may be needed before any action is taken," he said at a BMA news conference yesterday.
He asserted that neither the BMA nor the district office was protecting two teachers at the centre of the claims. The teachers have denied the allegations and suggested they were being implicated for political reasons.

the nation

Rigger

Talking to the missus last night she told me it is all over the news how there is so many bad farang teachers here having sex with young girls selling drugs or have run away from there home country because the police are after them
Even some of them have been working at Boy bars to make money due to the low wages
I asked her if she new anthing about Thai teachers molesting kids and she said no
Farang bad Thai good
I thought about this for a while and even felt a little afended then realized she was probably right

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dirtydog

Police file additional charges against teachers


Police Wednesday pressed additional charges against two teachers who were already charged with raping schoolgirls.

Lon Sorakanit, 56, and Pimon Soonsri, 48, came to hear their additional charges with luggage bags out of fear that they might not be granted bail.

The accused teachers also brought four colleagues as their defence witnesses.

Police Major Chusak Apaisak, an investigator at the Children, Juveniles and Women Division, declined to be specific about the two additional charges. He only said the additional charges were lighter than the rape charges.

The Nation

Marmite the Dog

Probably got caught smoking in the bogs.

Wallace

How many cases do you read of farangs actually being guilty of raping school children? And then compare that with the number of stories of Thais raping female tourists. And then let's discuss the stories of Thai women raped by Thai men that rarely make the press.

It only needs one bad farang to start an epidemic of prejudice and bigotry. Yet, almost every day there are stories of Thais doing bad things and more column space is given over to the defence of 'honourable' men than to the fact that it is the girl or woman who has to live with this shit for the rest of their lives.

The more crap like this you read, the more you realise you're living in a parallel alien third world.

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bradthai

wallace. so true.
why is it ok for thai teachers to drink while on excursions, within plain site of the students????
i was seen having a drink one night at a local pool hall. the outcome... mr. brad is an alco. told to me by my students, as told to them by a thai teacher. trt. fuck off. bft brainless fookin thais more appropriate

Lily

No, the additional charges are for 'lewd acts' involving two six year old girls.

How sick!

dirtydog

Looking at the title of this thread

Quote:

Two teachers face sack over rape of girl, 8

Now I got to admit I just took the title from the original headline, wouldn't a more appropiate headline be it does make me wonder if they maybe allowed to pay off the parents and not face charges.