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    how to get a wp for freelance teaching

    i am 24 years old, married to a thai, planning to be p.r. in thailand by getting 3 x 1 year marriage visa and than immigration visa. i dont have any skills in teaching and only got my h.s. diploma. i am planning to open up a small store, sell Buddha frames, and freelance teaching. the only problem is that when i went to obtain a work visa or a work permit, they told me they cant give one for freelance. i need to be working in a school. they told me i am not aloud to teach from home or at peoples homes. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? HOW CAN I GET A WORK PERMIT FOR FREELANCE TEACHING? i am worried about surviving in thailand if i cant teach as extra income apart from selling cigarettes, beer, pop, coffee, and Buddha frames.

    does anybody have any advice on what my options are? i am living just outside Bangkok and i did try to get a job at some schools (but you need a B.A. or some kind of training). should i just teach at home without a wp? (i kinda want to do everything liegal because my wife is 7 months pregnant and i dont really have extra money to pay any fines).

    thanks guys.

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    WP is job specific and must state location, pay and hours
    A freelance WP is not available

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    me again

    i would like to add, if it will help, my finace spot in this. i came to thailand with 760,000 baht. 400,000 baht is in a 3 year fixed account (i cant touch) for my 3 x 1 year marrige visa. i have 260,000 baht left for:

    -30,000 baht for small wedding
    -50,000 baht for Buddha frames
    -60,000 baht for show casing Buddha frames
    -32,000 baht for starting small store (cigarettes, beer, pop, coffee, ect.)
    -30,000 baht for hospital fee (when my wife has the child)
    -? baht for unexpected spending

    as you can see i am broke if the store does not have a good income for me and my family. i need to find a way to freelance teaching for extra income.

    i hope this helps with any advice you can give.

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    wp is not available for freelance?
    how can i freelance?
    how do people freelance legally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juno
    how do people freelance legally?
    They don't they take a risk

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    ok..so what is the risk of freelancing?
    how much is the fine? i tried to find the fine amount online but i cant.
    if i am teaching like only 3 students a week, what are my chances of getting in trouble?

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    if i am in for a really really hard time. do you have any suggestions? if i need to some how work in a school (i really dont want), is there a way of finding a place that is laid back in accepting only H.S. diplomas? or is there a place in thailand that makes fake diplomas? what would you guys recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juno
    ok..so what is the risk of freelancing?
    how much is the fine?
    The risk is small unless you upset someone
    The fine, or should I say bribe, is down to your bargaining skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by juno View Post
    if i am in for a really really hard time. do you have any suggestions? if i need to some how work in a school (i really dont want), is there a way of finding a place that is laid back in accepting only H.S. diplomas? or is there a place in thailand that makes fake diplomas? what would you guys recommend?
    get a fake deeploma on Khaosan. I hear they can get you transcripts as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by juno View Post
    if i am in for a really really hard time. do you have any suggestions? if i need to some how work in a school (i really dont want), is there a way of finding a place that is laid back in accepting only H.S. diplomas? or is there a place in thailand that makes fake diplomas? what would you guys recommend?
    get a fake deeploma on Khaosan. I hear they can get you transcripts as well.

    apparently the more expensive ones, have fake websites to suppost said university, and include telephone numbers that 'staff' answer adn confirm details to employers making calls

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by juno View Post
    if i am in for a really really hard time. do you have any suggestions? if i need to some how work in a school (i really dont want), is there a way of finding a place that is laid back in accepting only H.S. diplomas? or is there a place in thailand that makes fake diplomas? what would you guys recommend?
    get a fake deeploma on Khaosan. I hear they can get you transcripts as well.
    thanks. so how would someone find a fake diploma on khaosan road? i cant just walk up to people..can i? where is my best bet for starters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    Scampy, why would you want to be a free lancer?
    do you have any other idea of what i can do? i dont like really working for people and having that "9-5" job. with freelance i can pick my own hours and work when i want to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranha View Post
    Run forrest, run!

    If you're a troll... Suggest you go another place.

    If not - embrace for bad times.

    A friend of mine that owns a guest house in Patters, almost got fined 50.000,- baht for pouring himself a cup of coffee.

    I'm not suggesting anything but if you do work as a freelance teacher without a wp, cringe and beg the day you are discovered.
    i really dont know what you guys mean by "troll"...i am guessing, since a troll lives under the brigde, you guys are thinking where will i live with very little money. my wifes dad gave us his house (he is moving to retire as a monk) so that we can start a small business there. so i dont need to pay rent or build. electricity is 800 baht and water is about 100 baht and i only eat noodles which cost me about 50 baht every 3 days (not very fussy) and my wife, i dont really pay attention to how much she spends, but i know its not lots. so i can live very cheap here in thailand. last time i was here, for 5 months, i was spending 14,000 baht per months for me and my wife. and that was eating out every meal, paying electricity, water, sat.t.v., ect........i think with a child on the way i need to make around 15,000-20,000 baht per month to live good. the store and Buddha frames should bring in something....and teaching should bring in the rest.

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    Juno,

    - 30,000 baht for hospital fee (when my wife has the child)

    Tell your wife to have the baby at a local hospital and make sure she has a natural birth and not a C-section, the total will be less than 5000 baht!! Just saved you 25,000 baht....

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    Let's recap.

    You are 24 and from Canada. You appear to have little work or life experience.
    You have no education to speak of and appear to only be semi-literate.
    You don't like to work 9-5 jobs or for other people.
    You really don't want to teach in a school.
    You have a pregnant Thai girlfriend.
    You have no understanding of the merchandise you plan to sell (Buddha frames).
    You have virtually no money (and will have a lot less once the Uncle finishes with you).
    You actually think you can make a living for you, the girlfriend and a kid from a neighborhood store selling cigarettes and soda.
    And, going out on a limb here, I venture that you speak no Thai other than a few phrases.

    Snow will still be on the ground when you land. penniless, in Canada.

    Enjoy your remaining time in LOS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Let's recap.

    You are 24 and from Canada. You appear to have little work or life experience.
    You have no education to speak of and appear to only be semi-literate.
    You don't like to work 9-5 jobs or for other people.
    You really don't want to teach in a school.
    You have a pregnant Thai girlfriend.
    You have no understanding of the merchandise you plan to sell (Buddha frames).
    You have virtually no money (and will have a lot less once the Uncle finishes with you).
    You actually think you can make a living for you, the girlfriend and a kid from a neighborhood store selling cigarettes and soda.
    And, going out on a limb here, I venture that you speak no Thai other than a few phrases.

    Snow will still be on the ground when you land. penniless, in Canada.

    Enjoy your remaining time in LOS!
    that is pretty much it. i lived here before for 5 months. my wife and i live in, i dont know what to call it, a village or country or the slums....we have no shower, our neighbors have no kitchen, they cook outside with coal, they bath in the river, do their laundry in the river, they have a dirt floor and no walls on their house. i am living very poor......BUT I LOVE EVERY MINUTE HERE. I CAN SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE IN THIS CONDITION. THEY CAN TEACH ME HOW TO LIVE BY PENNIES A DAYS. I DONT NEED BIG HOUSES AND NICE CARS. WE CANT TAKE THAT WITH US WHEN WE DIE. I AM HAPPY WITH MY OWN HEART AND THE GOOD PEOPLE AROUND ME. I WILL DO FINE.

    THANKS EVERY BODY FOR YOUR HELP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paranha View Post
    Run forrest, run!

    If you're a troll... Suggest you go another place.

    If not - embrace for bad times.

    A friend of mine that owns a guest house in Patters, almost got fined 50.000,- baht for pouring himself a cup of coffee.

    I'm not suggesting anything but if you do work as a freelance teacher without a wp, cringe and beg the day you are discovered.
    i really dont know what you guys mean by "troll"...i am guessing, since a troll lives under the brigde, you guys are thinking where will i live with very little money. my wifes dad gave us his house (he is moving to retire as a monk) so that we can start a small business there. so i dont need to pay rent or build. electricity is 800 baht and water is about 100 baht and i only eat noodles which cost me about 50 baht every 3 days (not very fussy) and my wife, i dont really pay attention to how much she spends, but i know its not lots. so i can live very cheap here in thailand. last time i was here, for 5 months, i was spending 14,000 baht per months for me and my wife. and that was eating out every meal, paying electricity, water, sat.t.v., ect........i think with a child on the way i need to make around 15,000-20,000 baht per month to live good. the store and Buddha frames should bring in something....and teaching should bring in the rest.
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    My apologies Juno. Have been in a foul mood lately.

    Be a little careful with the Buddha frames. Casting them might come under the foreign business act part one. And that is a no go area for foreigners.

    Are you sure you want this?

    After a year where you are not living in canada/paying taxes you'll most surely fall out of the social welfare system. Education, unemployment benefits, health care and that sort of stuff will be forfeited and if/when you move back it will take some time to regain them.

    If you have access to a computer and internet you might be able to do some work abroad (like putting things in a database, translations, typewriting etc). If you are bilingual french/english that will help. Think this will also keep you inside your welfare system back home and preventing you for being on total bare ground if something happens.

    I also read your last post.

    Sigh. Man, you are putting your family at risk. Your family will have whatever hospital treatment that they will get but you as a foreigner will have nothing. Getting sick here costs some serious money - a health insurance will cover that but can your family afford to loose the income you will be providing?

    This land is hard if you run out of money

    Wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.
    Last edited by paranha; 30-10-2009 at 09:44 PM.
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    excuseme mods but I have to post a link here...


    Oilcareers - The Recruitment site for the Worldwide Oil and Gas Industry

    Look there. It might happen that you'll find a job in the offshore business there and therefore make a decent living in Thailand.

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    I strongly suggest you consider going back home and getting some sort of qualification, when you have that and preferably some work experience you can return to Thailand and look for proper employment.

    With your current bare-bones lifestyle, family commitments and negligible income you are certain to have major problems in the not too distant future; you have no chance of building up a cash reserve for emergencies like illness for example and babies get a lot of illness as undoubtedly will you particularly living in the conditions you describe. I would also add that you have zero chance of obtaining Permanent Residence with the type of employment and income you envisage.

    You may think you have nowhere to fall further than you are now but at 24 you have options that will swiftly disappear the older you get. At age 35 you will have a 10 year old child to take care of if not more younger children too and still be living in near slum conditions earning and living day to day.

    It is also a very BAD idea to consider using a fake Khao San "Degree" to obtain employment; that is Fraud and the validity of the Degree could be checked by the authorities at any time - you could end up being deported and blacklisted, never to see your wife and child again.

    Thailand is a wonderful place if you have money I would hate to live here in your situation.

    Patrick

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    Excellent troll Juno, you really got them in with that one.

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    Exacterly.

    Would have thought the teaching room mods would have figured that one out!

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    is this a CMN troll?... poor effort CMN...you can do better than this...

    Quote Originally Posted by juno
    .i think with a child on the way i need to make around 15,000-20,000 baht per month to live good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juno View Post
    if i am in for a really really hard time. do you have any suggestions? if i need to some how work in a school (i really dont want), is there a way of finding a place that is laid back in accepting only H.S. diplomas? or is there a place in thailand that makes fake diplomas? what would you guys recommend?

    I would suggest that the first thing you do if you want to freelance teach is learn proper English. Fake diplomas will get you in trouble at a real school. Also, you need a permit for your planned store. There are requirements on employees, salaries and such for this also. You can not get a work permit for freelance teaching.

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    juno, if you're a troll, well done.

    If you're real, fok off home double quick. You'll die here before the moon rises.

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    Teach for free

    I wanted to teach for free, (I am qualified) but was told I need work permit to do this.

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