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mikehunt · 11-12-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

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Originally Posted by mikehunt

In 2005, I taught mathematics to a "Matayom 1" (Year 7) class for about a year. During that period, I issued two major tests to the students. Both tests were NOT multiple choice. All "working" had to be shown. When both of these tests were handed back to the students, I made time (1 hour in class & anytime, if I was available, after class) to go through the test with the students & help them to understand their errors.
The students had never done this type of test before.

Prior to the first test, I advised the students about how I would mark the test. I told them that even though their final answer may be incorrect, they may gain marks (points) for showing correct working. I then gave them some "trial" tests, which did not contribute to their overall mark, just to get them familiar with things.

Strangely, many Thai teachers tried to dissuade me from conducting such a test, the main reason cited was, "It will take a long time to mark."
I agreed with this comment & retorted with, "Yes but the students stand a better chance of learning." To me, they were lazy & did not consider the student's education...just attend school & get paid.
Out of fifty or more Thai teachers, only one agreed with me but would not let the other Thais know that he agreed.

Unfortunately, this is a instilled and common character trait of the Thai educational system. They just pretend to give a rat's arse, but don't really have the ability to recognize quality in lieu of quanity.

Very happy to see that you spelt "arse" correctly

BTW, I don't have a degree in education. Worse still, I don't have a degree!
I guess the amount of "face lost" could be immense if a non-qualified person actually did make a difference to the amount a student learns, particularly if the person who purportedly causes the "loss of face" is not "qualified".
TIT.

Rural Surin · 11-12-2008, 10:44 PM

Unfortunately Mike, it's an embarrassing reflection on the system that trained Thai teachers aren't allowed to develop personal techniques, nor are they encouraged to challenge or critique redundant and futile homogeny. How can one expect students to chase {in theory} critical thought and to examine varitable ideas, if the instructor does not ptomote {or have a clue} within. I know quite a number of teachers, from primary teachers to professors. All, good likable folks. Yet, they just don't get it.

mikehunt · 12-12-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Unfortunately Mike, it's an embarrassing reflection on the system that trained Thai teachers aren't allowed to develop personal techniques, nor are they encouraged to challenge or critique redundant and futile homogeny. How can one expect students to chase {in theory} critical thought and to examine varitable ideas, if the instructor does not ptomote {or have a clue} within. I know quite a number of teachers, from primary teachers to professors. All, good likable folks. Yet, they just don't get it.

Too true...unfortunately.

Kikiat2009 · 20-12-2008, 07:18 PM

multiple choice is popular here because most of the Thai educators are lazy (in their defense there tend to be 60 students in one class and they get paid peanuts) and multiple guess checks the fastest, you give them one of them fill in sheets, teachers have a template where all the right answers are cut out, they lay it over that little answer sheet and can instantly see the right/wrong answers. saves them hours of work.

Kikiat2009 · 20-12-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehunt

Very happy to see that you spelt "arse" correctly BTW, I don't have a degree in education. Worse still, I don't have a degree! I guess the amount of "face lost" could be immense if a non-qualified person actually did make a difference to the amount a student learns, particularly if the person who purportedly causes the "loss of face" is not "qualified". TIT.

The Thai teachers with "degrees" went to the same shit system they are now a part of, how "qualified" makes that them really?

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