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Doggsy · 21-10-2008, 08:58 PM

What sort of criteria do people use when working out the different tiers of international school?

Is it solely on the wages paid, the facilities, the amount of time in existence?

I am just trying to work out who the better schools are to aim towards and who to try to use as a stepping stone onto bigger and better things

DJ Pat · 23-10-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggsy

a stepping stone onto bigger and better things

I just nearly fell of my chair

Marmite the Dog · 23-10-2008, 07:39 PM

Quality of it's teachers and the level of education it delivers.

Patana
ISB
NIST
Harrow

In Bangkok.

hillbilly · 24-10-2008, 10:36 AM

Accrediation is the key. WES or WASC.

Mid-level schools will pay B50,000-80,000.

The top schools like MtD mentioned will pay much better.

Chairman Mao · 24-10-2008, 12:14 PM

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Mid-level schools will pay B50,000-80,000.

surely that's the lowest level schools. no int. school would pay less than 50K... surely...

That pay bracket seems to be more the mid to higher level private schools.

kingwilly · 25-10-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

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Mid-level schools will pay B50,000-80,000.

surely that's the lowest level schools. no int. school would pay less than 50K... surely...

That pay bracket seems to be more the mid to higher level private schools.

I think you'll find there is a blurred line between where the private language schools finish and the international schools start.

Chairman Mao · 25-10-2008, 10:13 PM

Fair nuff. I meant the private school sector that includes the likes of Assumption and the other christian schools etc that pay around that much.

Generally, and this is a guess... the difference is that the Int'l schools teach either the UK or US curriculum, and the privates are still stuck on the Thai one... isn't it? (I could be wrong mind).

Doggsy · 24-10-2008, 05:14 PM

I looked on ISB and they start on 137,000. That's quite a nice figure to start with! Now i just need to be that person that is in the right place at the right time!!

DJ Pat · 31-10-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggsy

I looked on ISB and they start on 137,000. That's quite a nice figure to start with! Now i just need to be that person that is in the right place at the right time!!

But in the meantime ECC or Wall Street

will suffice I suppose?

Doggsy · 31-10-2008, 10:40 PM

be a bloody long way to commute to work everyday from england wouldnt it? Plus i think the school i am at here would be pissed that I am late to work everyday.

Looks like you suppose incorrectly...

dirtydog · 31-10-2008, 10:50 PM

Here

they have 3 jobs that pay over 80k baht per month.

Doggsy · 31-10-2008, 10:59 PM

Thanks dirtydog but I am not looking for a job in thailand just yet. I am hoping to move in the summer of 2010. i am just lookin to get as much information on the international schools as I can so i know which ones to aim for and which ones to steer clear of. Obviously I have looked on each school website but as we all know websites can be particularly biased so I was asking for more independent advice.

Chairman Mao · 31-10-2008, 11:25 PM

An actual teacher! There's a first.

Don't think yer allowed on these kinda forums.

Doggsy · 31-10-2008, 11:38 PM

not quite a real teacher yet. just doing my pgce to become a real teacher then going to stay in england and get a little experience before heading out east.

Chairman Mao · 01-11-2008, 12:10 AM

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just doing my pgce

So your BA isn't in Education?

Doggsy · 01-11-2008, 05:24 AM

no my BSc is in Computer Studies. My PGCE will give me a post graduate certificate of education to be able to teach ICT. Similar to a person with a history degree teaching history and thus gaining more knowledge about their subject before specialising in the teaching of said subject

Chairman Mao · 01-11-2008, 08:33 PM

Yes, we do know what it is.

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I looked on ISB and they start on 137,000. That's quite a nice figure to start with! Now i just need to be that person that is in the right place at the right time!!

Without a B.Ed, or BA without any educational fields... or experience... with just a pgce...

I feel the 'right place and right time' you speak of being in is... in the director's bedroom with a gun pointed at his wife's head. You ain't gonna get a job at a top Int. school with just a PGCE and no experience.

I could be wrong... but I doubt it (KW etc. know a lot more than me on the topic).

With a PGCE I'd hazard a guess that you'd walk into the 70K positions without any trouble, and maybe get lucky with 80-90K.

Sorry to burst your bubble a bit, but simply having a PGCE isn't gonna get you hired (at 137K) when the other applicants have BA's or MA's of Ed.

Which they will, with a few years experience to boot.

You say you've checked out all their websites, don't they have a list of the teachers and their qualifications?

Smeg · 03-11-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Yes, we do know what it is.

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I looked on ISB and they start on 137,000. That's quite a nice figure to start with! Now i just need to be that person that is in the right place at the right time!!

Without a B.Ed, or BA without any educational fields... or experience... with just a pgce...

I could be wrong... but I doubt it

With a PGCE I'd hazard a guess that you'd walk into the 70K positions without any trouble, and maybe get lucky with 80-90K.

Sorry to burst your bubble a bit, but simply having a PGCE isn't gonna get you hired (at 137K) when the other applicants have BA's or MA's of Ed.

Which they will, with a few years experience to boot.

This twat has no idea what he is on about. You need a BA (or BSc) before you can get a PGCE, and a PGCE is the equivalent of a BEd. With a PGCE and a couple of years experience, the world will be your oyster.

DJ Pat · 04-11-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeg

This twat has no idea what he is on about. You need a BA (or BSc) before you can get a PGCE, and a PGCE is the equivalent of a BEd. With a PGCE and a couple of years experience, the world will be your oyster.

Like I already stated, Wall Street or similar beckons whatever their teaching / whoring aspirations.

Chairman Mao · 04-11-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeg

a PGCE is the equivalent of a BEd.

Is this part actually true? The (post grad) Certificate of Education isn't seen as a Certificate of Education...

It's seen as equivalent to a Bachelor of Education.

Really, that's true? I must say I'm slightly surprised.

Or was when I read it. Thanks Smeg.

21-10-2008, 08:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	The different tiers of international schools What sort of criteria do people use when working out the different tiers of international school? Is it solely on the wages paid, the facilities, the amount of time in existence? I am just trying to work out who the better schools are to aim towards and who to try to use as a stepping stone onto bigger and better things

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23-10-2008, 07:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 11:16 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 30,333	Quality of it's teachers and the level of education it delivers. Patana ISB NIST Harrow In Bangkok.

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hillbilly Still trailer trash Last Online: Today 10:28 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: BKK & 'D&G Resort' Posts: 6,445	Accrediation is the key. WES or WASC. Mid-level schools will pay B50,000-80,000. The top schools like MtD mentioned will pay much better.

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Chairman Mao Thailand Expat Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,437	Fair nuff. I meant the private school sector that includes the likes of Assumption and the other christian schools etc that pay around that much. Generally, and this is a guess... the difference is that the Int'l schools teach either the UK or US curriculum, and the privates are still stuck on the Thai one... isn't it? (I could be wrong mind).

24-10-2008, 05:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	I looked on ISB and they start on 137,000. That's quite a nice figure to start with! Now i just need to be that person that is in the right place at the right time!!

31-10-2008, 10:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	be a bloody long way to commute to work everyday from england wouldnt it? Plus i think the school i am at here would be pissed that I am late to work everyday. Looks like you suppose incorrectly...

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dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 11:19 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Jomtien Posts: 42,376	Here they have 3 jobs that pay over 80k baht per month.

31-10-2008, 10:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	Thanks dirtydog but I am not looking for a job in thailand just yet. I am hoping to move in the summer of 2010. i am just lookin to get as much information on the international schools as I can so i know which ones to aim for and which ones to steer clear of. Obviously I have looked on each school website but as we all know websites can be particularly biased so I was asking for more independent advice.

31-10-2008, 11:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chairman Mao Thailand Expat Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,437	An actual teacher! There's a first. Don't think yer allowed on these kinda forums.

31-10-2008, 11:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	not quite a real teacher yet. just doing my pgce to become a real teacher then going to stay in england and get a little experience before heading out east.

01-11-2008, 05:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
Doggsy Nan Last Online: Today 03:58 AM Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 167	no my BSc is in Computer Studies. My PGCE will give me a post graduate certificate of education to be able to teach ICT. Similar to a person with a history degree teaching history and thus gaining more knowledge about their subject before specialising in the teaching of said subject

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