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Teaching In Thailand Being a international school teacher in Thailand can be a great career with salaries in the range of $2,500 to $6,000 per month, or you could become a TEFLer teaching English with a salary range of 350-600 pounds per month, although with many teaching jobs it could be worth doing a TEFL course even if no experience is necessary, but will teaching students fulfil your overseas jobs yearnings? Is a English language teaching job something you really want to do? Can you teach English?

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Old 18-09-2008, 09:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there a compulsory retirement age for foreign teachers

I currently live and work in Jomtien, but there is a remote possibility that in the next few months I will be moving to the lovely teak house I have had built in Chonabot, near Khon Kaen.

I am not sure how I will adapt to rural living so I am thinking of taking a teaching course as I believe that I could get work in one of the local schools.

I am however 57 and my wife seems to think that there is a compulsory retirement age of 60 in which case it would be a waste of time doing the teaching course.

Does anybody know whether or not that is correct please?

Also, I get the impression that a TEFL qualification is scorned by many of the BM's.

Bearing in mind that I would have no aspirations of teaching in anything other than a small provincial school would a TEFL certificate be adequate?

If so, what if any previous qualifications do you need to take the course?
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Old 18-09-2008, 10:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There is probably others better qualified to answer than I, however, for what its worth....

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I am however 57 and my wife seems to think that there is a compulsory retirement age of 60 in which case it would be a waste of time doing the teaching course. Does anybody know whether or not that is correct please?
I think it may well be correct about the retirement age, not sure how vigorously they enforce it in the villages...

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Also, I get the impression that a TEFL qualification is scorned by many of the BM's.
What is a BM?

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If so, what if any previous qualifications do you need to take the course?
Ability to speak English I think.
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Old 18-09-2008, 10:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have seen the retirement age formally waived for a falang in a uni with little more than a memo from the school to the MOE.
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What is a BM?
For a Mod you don't know much.
BM=Board Member.
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you don't know much. BM=Board Member.
oh, I was thinking it was something related to TEFL or schools.

like business manager.....

anyway who says Board Members? I juz say peeps....
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Bearing in mind that I would have no aspirations of teaching in anything other than a small provincial school would a TEFL certificate be adequate?
It all depends on the school. Worth spending the day driving around and asking various schools in the area you wish to work/live. With no degree, no experience and only a tefl -- you are at the bottom of the food chain, for sure (though still employable).
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I think if you have experience you can work into your 70's at private schools. I know one such person who is head of curriculum studies
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Private schools could care less as it is market driven. public schools have a hard retirement date for thai's. this is why you see them hiring their retired friends back as part-time/hourly. i know of one older falang who got the retirement date waived as the school wanted him. other times i have heard people turned away from public school employment due to age.
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Thanks to those who have given a response to the points I raised. I would appreciate knowing what previous qualifications you need for the TEFL course.

andrewdicksonsmith. I would certainly not presume to degrade professional teachers and would not regard myself as a wanabee at 57 years of age.

I would not need to teach to survive financially, but am interested in teaching mainly because if I do move to my Issan home I feel that I would need to do something constructive during the day rather than count the neighbours chickens and I thought,possibly wrongly, that it may be a way of putting something back into the community.
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would appreciate knowing what previous qualifications you need for the TEFL course.
I've fold you mate, there are none! well, maybe $
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I would not need to teach to survive financially, but am interested in teaching mainly because if I do move to my Issan home I feel that I would need to do something constructive during the day rather than count the neighbours chickens and I thought,possibly wrongly, that it may be a way of putting something back into the community.
No quals required for a tefl course. And good on you! I don't think sitting around all day not being productive in some manner would be good for anyone. But I will say this...it takes a lot more than you think to be a good teacher, be sure its something you want to do.

Surely you know a teacher or two..maybe they can give you a tour of a government school in the area. If you can't, let me know and I'll give a tour of the school I work at in BKK.
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One point is that we tend to teach it the way we learned it. Since Rote learning went out in our countries a loooong time ago I'd guess whomever you are you could do it better than a large % of Thai teachers, just from the simple fact you attended a First World university .. and graduated.

IMO, as long as you are conscious of the fact you are new to the profession, keep up an open mind and never stop educating yourself in teaching theory and class management, strategies and the like, you'll be okay. Start at the bottom, don't shoot too high, realize you will make more errors than one with many years of teaching experience and/or formal education. Make your mistakes in an environment where parents pay very little for their child's education. A place where mediocrity is on the main menu. And believe you me, there are plenty to choose from.
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No quals required for a tefl course.
Only qualification I know of is if you're not a native speaker you have to have a certain IELTS (or equivalent) grade. For TESOL course that is.
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Four years ago we had a student that was 82 years old.

A few month back I ran into him--he is still teaching at a Rajabhat.
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A few month back I ran into him--he is still teaching at a Rajabhat.
(Having worked at a raj)...don't you really mean still employed at a rajabahat...?
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In a pinch, as we have in Thailand, no, it might not. Given a choice I'd bet there is a profile in the minds of administrators, and 82 ain't in it.
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