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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Given the behaviour that is displayed on here at times it disturbs me that some posters are teachers.
    At times the stuff I see in "Issues" disturbs me that some people claim to be homo sapians.

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    "in thailand eduaction is socialization. group living, deference to authority, parroting back numbers/rules, keeping your mouth shut, not excelling or dragging the group."

    Too judgemental

    Thailand is collectivist, we from the West are more individualistic.

    Thai are more respectful of heirarchies, we from the West are more egalitarian

    We from the West are more confrontational while in Thailand they are more willing to avoid confrontation (although current political events don't support this statement).

    Different is different, doesn't have to be better or worse.

    If you want to last in a foreign culture, it is better to acknowledge differences without always having to be judgemental

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel Toe
    There must be people like me out there in the teaching world. So from all of us we say, WE DON'T WANT OR NEED YOU! You're a salesman, go away!
    555 bruce is making a living. he could be lots worse. i think he seems to care about his product. many dont. dont get bruce all hopped up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma
    what's your situation cssfan?
    define situation?

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    Ant

    I knew who you are refering to, you silly ole goose

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Given the behaviour that is displayed on here at times it disturbs me that some posters are teachers.
    Indeed. The point here that everyone seems to be missing is its not what Bruce says that determines what is a teacher, its not what AA says, or indeed what any other person says that has the slightest impact on what makes a teacher, and more pertinently a qualified teacher - its the government, or more precisely the Ministry of Education (in whatever form) who says what makes a teacher.

    And, unless I miss my bet completely, the ministry has said that a 4 week course does NOT make a teacher, and most certainly does not make a qualified teacher.

    Hence the protracted squeals of outrage and pain on the side of many TEFLers.

    Now the reality of it is, it will be badly implimented and badly enforced for some time - but that is whats comming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Camel Toe
    If teaching in Thailand you might add fun to that.
    Isn't fun a positive thing?
    Yes, so are Christmas candy canes hanging off your shirt pocket and a big Scooby Doo embroidered on your neck tie.

    Fun is in Natural Learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    'Tis a poor workman that blames their tools.
    imagine your alma mater (law school) with no books or library. 3 times the students in class. doul ble the work load on the proffs. a greedy skimming admin. and zero quality assurance at the end of the dgree/learning process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn View Post
    Ant

    I knew who you are refering to, you silly ole goose
    Damn, obviously not subtle enough.

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    Wat school. nternational school, uni??????????? etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma View Post
    It's like the gold rush where everyone is interested in the money.
    More like a school of sharks looking for wounded swimmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma
    imagine your alma mater (law school) with no books or library. 3 times the students in class. doul ble the work load on the proffs. a greedy skimming admin. and zero quality assurance at the end of the dgree/learning process.
    respond to this with your tools metaphor, ant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    'Tis a poor workman that blames their tools.
    imagine your alma mater (law school) with no books or library. 3 times the students in class. doul ble the work load on the proffs. a greedy skimming admin. and zero quality assurance at the end of the dgree/learning process.
    I take your point but it's a poor analogy; I wouldn't attend/study/teach at such a place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    And, unless I miss my bet completely, the ministry has said that a 4 week course does NOT make a teacher, and most certainly does not make a qualified teacher. Hence the protracted squeals of outrage and pain on the side of many TEFLers. Now the reality of it is, it will be badly implimented and badly enforced for some time - but that is whats comming. nidhogg is online now Add to nidhogg's Reputation Report Post
    Re you talking about the thai culyure classes that are supposedly being implemented?

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    "unless I miss my bet completely, the ministry has said that a 4 week course does NOT make a teacher, and most certainly does not make a qualified teacher."

    I think you missed your bet completely.

    If Bruce's students weren't getting jobs, he would be out of business real soon. You can hold your breath waiting for all foreign english teachers to be required to have full teachers qualifications to teach in Thailand, but I think you will be holding your breath for a very long time. Most more advanced economies such as Japan or Korea have not went to that extreme, to think Thailand will does not seem very logical to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    I take your point but it's a poor analogy; I wouldn't attend/study/teach at such a place.
    and those that would are often not the best and the brightest. and if you are good and bright you just get worn down by the bullshit, over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma View Post
    Re you talking about the thai culyure classes that are supposedly being implemented?
    Nope. The other "thingy" - the real one (sorry not in the field so not up on the terminology). Uh, dunno - but it takes a couple of years part time.

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    Bruce i want to ask you some questions, cool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    I take your point but it's a poor analogy; I wouldn't attend/study/teach at such a place.
    PGCE or whatever??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    If Bruce's students weren't getting jobs, he would be out of business real soon. You can hold your breath waiting for all foreign english teachers to be required to have full teachers qualifications to teach in Thailand, but I think you will be holding your breath for a very long time. Most more advanced economies such as Japan or Korea have not went to that extreme, to think Thailand will does not seem very logical to me.
    never happen here. i agree.

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    fuckin bruce is wacthing thai tv!!!!!!!

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    AA -- yourin cambo???

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    Quote Originally Posted by pai nai ma View Post
    never happen here. i agree.
    We will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn
    Most more advanced economies such as Japan or Korea have not went to that extreme, to think Thailand will does not seem very logical to me.
    korea and japan to a lot better job than thailand in terms of requirering degrees ect!!!!

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    or more precisely the Ministry of Education (in whatever form) who says what makes a teacher.
    Yes, to get the gig. To keep the gig you have to be popular: And popular means, fun, don't fail anyone, get along with Thai staffers, smile a lot even at luncheons when the phet is burning your guts, stay out of shady nightclubs, and most of all, be smart and well-groomed.

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